Homosexual rights

I am not aganist just gay people showing public affection, but all people...
Thhey should add a lot of forms of public affection to count as indecent exposure.

 

Yes regarding sex anything that does not further the specie is unnatural.
Only a few animals have sex for the sake of fun, and that compared to the million of other animal species only having sex when needed, is not natural.
Homosexuals are using body parts for some purpose other than that for which they were designed. The penis and vagina are certainly constructed for male-female intercourse. Their complimentary shapes, the location of highly sensitive nerve endings show, without a doubt, the Divine intent.
Regardless of where you stand on the pleasure related aspects of sexuality, man and woman’s sexuality is inextricebly associated with reproduction, and two men or two women cannot reproduce. Therefore, homosexuality is a condition that, is contrary to nature. Biologically, it is simply not natural or normal.

Idle speculation but I doubt its wrong.

By knowing that nearly all animals simply do not have sex for fun but instead only when needed.

 

Very well.

Alright, so it is not natural. What of it?

Unless you can come up with some evidence to substantiate it, it's basically worthless.

"Nearly". Hmm, that word seems to complicate things, doesn't it?

Once again, that's where personal freedoms come in.

 

Thank you Nothing more for now, im just glad that we agree to this point.

I find it usefull unless you can prove it wrong.

As far as I´ve heard the only animals who have sex for fun are besides humans are monkeys and they are pretty dam close to us.
Comparing monkeys who I look at as Bisexual and not Homosexual to the other god knows how many animal species, who are psychologically only atracted to the other sex, will only point towards bisexualism or as you look at it homosexualism, being UNNATURAL !

 

What? It is your responsibility to prove it true if you want it to be considered legitimate. Must every theory be presumed correct unless disproved?

Yet still, just the case of homosexuality in apes would disprove your claim that it's entirely unnatural.

http://media.www.dailyfreepress.com...Opinion/Homosexuality.Is.Natural-653911.shtml
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html

Yet, it would seem that it's not only apes. Flamingos, penguins, dogs, even fruit flies have exhibited varying degrees of homosexuality and bisexuality.

Perhaps the case is not to be closed?

 

Not nessesarily, but it should not be considered wrong.

Apes are the only animals along with humans who have sex for the sake of fun!
Why would other animals have sex with the opposit sex if they dont even like sex. Perhaps because they need ?

And none of your links actully explain why that some of the animals (not many) do this bisexual behaviour, but instead keep talking about what animals species does it, instead of actully going deep in it and explain what could make them do such thing.

 

That is true, but it's not going to be considered unless you can show it to be true.

Just to contradict you there, it has been shown that dolphins also have sex for fun.

http://www.butte.edu/~dr-john/dolphins.html

Perhaps, but it is also possible that they are confused.

I don't see how it's relevant why they do it, but rather, the fact that many non-sentient animals do it show that it is not something unnatural.

 

Confused so they made the wrong choice, or perhaps because their body is in need of it.

The reason is relevant, since they perhaps have to do it to get out all of the semen that their body produce.

 

I believe gays should be gays! If they want to love and marry, let them be miserable like the rest of us! It's America people, there is no LAW against homosexuality. Gays may not be physicly appealing, but it is their choice. Do you see anyone compaining about lesbians? It is a life choice, and i say let them do it.

 

I have seen no evidence that shows that their body is in need of it.

The reason is not relevant; I brought this information to the table to show you that homosexuality occurs in nature.

 

Homosexuality does not occur in nature, its more like bisexuality, and even that is rare.

 

Bisexuality is more common, but homosexuality DOES occur. One or two of those links I provided demonstrated that.

Anyway, any sort of homosexual tendencies are not that rare. Even if they were, their very presence shows that homosexuality isn't unnatural.

 

There is homosexuality in nature but it is very rare and should only occur with some animal who have sex for fun.

Just because something occurs IN NATURE does not mean it actully is natural.
Homosexuality is not normal when you compare the small amount of homosexuals to the normals.

 

It's actually not as rare as you think it is.

Still, it may not be the mainstream activity, but it does occur naturally in non-sentient animals, showing that it is a natural thing.

 

Those animals who may be occur showing bisexual or homosexual behaviour, are perhaps doing it for a reason.
I say this when knowing what an amount of semen animals produce, that has to come out in one or another way to keep the cycles going, so homosexual behaviour would not suprise me.

And again, just because it occur in nature does not make it natural.
Natural is what the body is designed to do, anything even pointing towards something opposit or something else makes it unnatural.

 

Yet, I have heard of no ill effects towards any animals that do not release their semen in this manner. It's not like bonobos, when kept in captivity, away from other, have their genitals explode due to lack of sexual contact.

I would contend that what a non-sentient animal does IS natural, since it does it by instinct.

 

I always supported gay marridge, but I think gay adoption is a bit strange.
Because then the child should grow up in an unhealthy environment.

 

Animals in captivity live and are much difrent than wild animals, and not to mention that monkeys actully can masturbate to get their semen out in case they are kept away from others.

Or perhaps it does it because of need. why would it do it by instinct if it doesnt even like sex. Doing by instict is when having intercourse with the opposit sex, since it is in their instincts to get babies, or more importantly doing by instinct is, helping the specie and not having uneeded sex with your own gender.

 

Yet still, those that have no output for their semen do not suffer adverse affects.

Why would it do it by instinct? How else would it do it? These are non-sentient animals!

Your theory about releasing excess semen is an interesting one, but as it is completely unsubstantiated, it cannot really be taken seriously.

 

So what hapends when the testicles etc. are filled with sperm and the production of semen continues.
The semen has to come out to make space for fresh and newly produced semen.

Exactly! These are non sentient animals, and what they do is instinctly and what is instinctly should at all times do good for the specie.
Homosexuality does no good at all, but instead brakes the cycles.

An animals sexual instinct is to have sex to get babies and make shure that the cycles continues, which clearly is good for the specie, unlike homosexuality which does no good meaning that it is not natural.

Non sentient animals do not have sex for the sake of fun, so why would they do something uneeded and unrelevant as having sex with their own gender, if it is not because they are forced to do it due to natural reasons.