Gender Impersonation

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Gender Impersonation
  1. Unread #21 - Oct 30, 2007 at 6:07 PM
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    Yea,
    I agree. Your points are well made-
    however, I think there is some misunderstanding as to what I'm suggesting..

    If proof happens to emerge (like for example if someone feels the urge to investigate like Daily500) and that individual cannot provide 'counter proof', then there should be action taken. My suggestion is simply that this be amended to the 'Sythe definition' of scamming.
     
  3. Unread #22 - Oct 30, 2007 at 6:20 PM
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    Wendy,

    I don't think you know the full story, He was pretending to be a girl to get some guys information for an account; just that in itself is wrong in two ways;

    a) acting like a girl
    b) attempt to scam

    So either way you look at this case, you would see that he lied to gain trust within the community & even got close to filefragg, who thought he was a girl. I mean it's wrong on so many levels (that in itself).

    He knows he stuff up aswell, thats why he never made a dispute when that account was originally banned & he just started another sythe account (which is ban evansion). Now that his other account has been caught, here is the appeal...

    So which ever way you look at this case you could say... attempted scamming, ban evansion, lieing leading to scamming ETC. I think it would be stupid for a rule to be "No Gender Impersonation" -.- But if thats what it has to come to, anyone with a sound mind, wouldn't try and pretend to be a different gender without a hidden agenda.
     
  5. Unread #23 - Oct 30, 2007 at 6:41 PM
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    She's not defending Eternal; I think she means to set precedence.

    And it's actually not a bad idea; eternal was subsequently unbanned by an admin who didn't believe he deserved the original ban. It was only for the fact that Eternal was a proven scammer that it was re-issued.

    A lack of evidence does not mean innocence, though. To the contrary (as I stated before), most people playing whore are trying to scam. A rule against gender impersonation simply bysteps the requirement of proof of their malintent (which is not always available), and assumes (rightly so), that there was no other purpose.

    It's similar to the rule of self-vouching. It is not a scam in-and-of itself - and yet, it is understood to prelude one.
     
  7. Unread #24 - Oct 30, 2007 at 7:09 PM
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    Ok my opinion is like TRANNY.
    And I think he just thinks that girls get more respect because you can like tap that sheez.
     
  9. Unread #25 - Oct 30, 2007 at 7:20 PM
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    Basically- Sin took what I was trying to say and said it with more eloquence. :p

    It would put an end to the potential 'loop-hole' and clarify an issue.
     
  11. Unread #26 - Oct 30, 2007 at 7:51 PM
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    Omfg. Lol. wendy how long did it take you to find that pic or did you already have it in your computer. Same thing about the other one. Get A FUCKING LIFE GOD DAMN!!!! Sad sad. And yeah I guess it would kind of make since cuz most ppl that fake to be a girl are wanting to scam later on. But then again some ppl my just like it for the respect that "some" girls get.

    P.S. your fucking stupid if you think my other post didn't make since...
     
  13. Unread #27 - Oct 30, 2007 at 7:55 PM
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    edit: It still doesn't make any "since"

    Your ignorance speaks for itself.

    Like I said before- Your welcome to join the conversation if your gonna speak human like the rest of us.
     
  15. Unread #28 - Oct 30, 2007 at 8:59 PM
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    well heres my say in this
    if u say who ur not ur out to scam
     
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    I hate to be a dick, but I think he may take you a little more seriously if you change your > you're :/.

     
  19. Unread #30 - Oct 30, 2007 at 9:10 PM
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    If you sopport this that means you're sexist.

    So that means if sythe adopts anti-sex impersonation that you can't support Sythe.org without being sexist. I find that rediculous.
     
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    ...Do you know what sexism is?

    The only sexist assumption is that women are more trusted than men; and no one is saying that's true. It is merely the fact that many people believe it to be true that drives this suggestion. That's an important distinction - and not sexist at all.
     
  23. Unread #32 - Oct 30, 2007 at 10:02 PM
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    What are you talking about? The whole arugment for this is that some how trading with a male or female is somehow different? I total get the reason for it, but this not the way togo.

    If you want to fix this make everyones sex anonyomus. Make mentioning your sex an infractionable offense. Thats solves that with no confusing or judgement.
     
  25. Unread #33 - Oct 30, 2007 at 10:11 PM
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    No.. actually.. No.
    Your completely taking everything out of context and not making any valid points at all..
    There is nothing sexist about it.. In fact, If you read the entire thread- you would see that I even took precautions to keep this from becoming remotely sexist..
    And another thing.. It's ironic that any male on Sythe should complain about sexism when you are:
    A.) The dominant gender
    and- B.) Not the gender who is prone to impersonation

    Also:
    I'm sorry to be so frank- but this is ridiculous. I hope your not serious about this suggestion.. It's.. Just.. Silly.. Read it back to yourself aloud and tell me it's not ridiculous again..
    Hypothetical situation: Some kid starts fag flaming you on your thread because your name is "aronj" and it carries a male connotation.. You say: "Yes.. I'm a guy, so what?" INFRACTED. Ridiculous right?

    Take some time to understand exactly what this thread is suggesting please.
     
  27. Unread #34 - Oct 30, 2007 at 10:16 PM
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    Belive me, I've read the whole thread, I total get it.

    But, are you telling me it would be easier to have to verify every person who says they're a women?

    Why not just ban the involve ment of sexual orientaion on the forums? What's it have todo with anything anyway?

    What's ironic about it? Thats like saying white folk can't complain about racisim.
     
  29. Unread #35 - Oct 30, 2007 at 10:19 PM
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    From the first post:
    Clearly you did NOT read the entire thread, and you do NOT understand.

    I'm sorry to be so rude- but you shouldn't jump to conclusions nor make accusations. None of your points are valid.
     
  31. Unread #36 - Oct 30, 2007 at 10:58 PM
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    See that word.. existing in your post?

    What about all the new women? Theyre forced to have verify theat they're indeed women? Thats sexist 0_0
     
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    Once again you have taken everything out of context...
    If it says existing members then of course it would include new members.... Stop nit-picking.

    And how would you know what it's like to prove your gender?
    Did you have to do it? No.
    Did I? Yes.
    So this point is not even relative..

    Tbh, I think your just trying to argue something you know nothing about.

    As sin pointed out- You don't even know the proper definition of Sexism or use it in the proper context.
     
  35. Unread #38 - Oct 30, 2007 at 11:18 PM
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    If this includes existing and new members, how are you gonan prove/disprove theyre gender?

    What point? Did I ever say I had to? Or knew what it was like? You didn't have todo anything and shouldn't have had to. Thats my point (cuase it doesnt matter)

    This is debating.


    Sexism can refer to subtly different beliefs or attitudes:

    The belief that one gender or sex is inferior to or more valuable than the other;
    Female or male chauvinism
    The attitude of misogyny (hatred of females) or misandry (hatred of males); as well as
    The attitude of imposing a limited and/or false notion of masculinity on males and a limited and/or false notion of femininity on females, or vice versa.
    A feeling of distrust towards the opposite or same sex, most frequently operating at unconscious level.
     
  37. Unread #39 - Oct 30, 2007 at 11:23 PM
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    Congrats, you can use a dictionary..
    None of your points were productive or made any sense whatsoever.

    The point WASN'T to prove/disprove their gender, only to clarify the rules that if viable proof SURFACES naturally that any individual (MALE OR FEMALE) have been deceiving the Sythe community then they can be infracted or banned the same as if they had scammed.

    Now.. *exhale* Do you finally understand?
    Or do I need to make a coloring book for you?
     
  39. Unread #40 - Oct 30, 2007 at 11:26 PM
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    Rofl, your constant personal attacks are all I need to not listen to a word you have to say.

    I still get it. But, as I say a again why is it needed? Why is the subject of their gender even involved in black market trades?
     
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