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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    I have seen so many people say that abortion is murder, but that it should be allowed in the case of rape.
    So these people are pretty much saying that it is okay to kill the children of rapists.
    I would like to see how those who believe this can justify that.
     
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    If someone want's a abortion they can have it, it's not against the law >.>
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    Before we begin an argument, do you have any idea of the emotional trauma that mothers go through, even if it's a normal pregnancy?
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    I have some idea, but I doubt I could fully understand without being raped and impregnated myself, something that's never going to happen.

    Still, I feel inclined to believe that being murdered is worse than any trauma rape could cause.
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    The child hasn't reached mental maturity, of even physical maturity yet. It's not really murder.
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    Technically, it is murder, but not as atrocious as it sounds like.
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    I agree, but that's not the point.
    This is a very specific topic. Reread the first post if you don't understand.
     
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    The brain isnt functioning that much during abortion, although I am sure it would suck. Even if I was retarded I woudnt want to be killed.
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    It's not even formed yet, and im show the not-even-formed baby can feel it, eitherway I still don't like though but oh well...
     
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    I guess I have free reign to shoot someone who is in a vegetative state then?
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    If they have no capacity for recovering, it's not going to do any harm, other than emotionally devastating the family.
     
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    I have nothing against abortion. It's not a murder to me. TBH I don't like little kids 1-3 yrs old.. They annoy the fuck out of me (like my brothers for an example)
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    Even if the baby isn't formed or supposedly "isn't a person yet" that doesn't mean you have the right to take there soon to be life. Whether you agree or not you are killing a soon to be person.


    This is an amazing point you just made. I couldn't agree with you more.


    And also this is in my opinion less devastating then having an abortion since the person in a coma or vegetable state may not ever awake but a abortion kills a person that would have lived a life.
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    Abortion is wrong, anyway you look at it. You are killing an innocent child. For the person who said he hated little kids, well for starters, you used to be one of them, and are probably still one of them. If you were going to be aborted, wouldn't you want someone to stand up for you? Who had no voice at the time, or opinion. I know I would of.

    Like one other said, trauma of rape is great, indeed, there is no denying how big of an emotional breakdown someone could have or be emotional scarred for life. But did that child have a choice of being conceived then? No. But I can guarantee, aborting the baby after that, would only add more stress, not less.
     
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    I couldnt word this any better.
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    Eggs and sperm also have the potential to become people.

    Obviously, I enjoy living. My mother didn't have an abortion, though, so it's irrelevant. If she did, I wouldn't really have cared, since I would never have been self-aware.

    It doesn't add more stress, it stops the mother from having to go through with the pregnancy.

    Anyway, the main argument for abortion being kept legal is that pregnancy is an EXTREMELY personal issue. It is the woman's body, and if there is a clump of undifferentiated cells sitting in her body after a week, the government does NOT have the right to tell her that she has to endure nine months of pregnancy. After all, any rights not handed to the federal government in the Constitution go to either the people, or the state, and Roe vs. Wade ruled that it goes to the people. Therefore, her body, her decision. If you don't like it, don't get an abortion, but you're not going to interfere with what she does.
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    It all depends on what you consider to be murder. I don't consider abortion to be murder since the fetus isn't technically born yet.
     
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    There is a huge difference between potential and realizing that potential.

    Personally, I don't give a shit.

    It isn't up to me, so why should I bother with it?

    Note: There is a difference between morality and logic.
     
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    Abortion isn't right.Have pity will you to the baby? what if someone suggested at your mother to abortion because she looked sick carrying you and she decided to do it.What will you feel? EVEN PLANTS HAVE BRAINS.not actually a brain its like..sensory organ mayb but still similar to a brain
     
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    Murder is okay if their mothers were raped

    But my mother didn't have an abortion, therefore that argument is invalid.

    Even if she did, I wouldn't have any feelings on it, since I wouldn't exist.

    Plants have nothing close to a brain.
     
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