Non spiritual immortality..

I've been reading through quantum mechanic/ spirituality books, and I am convinced they are on the verge of truth. However, I believe it will soon be used to form a new-age religion used to manipulate the public, just as christiananity has been (and I wonder if it's not completely for that purpose, since christianity is finally being realized as out-dated).

However, I still can't fully believe it, until I actually die, unless there is some other proof that comes to light. I believe in creation (or something like it), but at the same time, I dont believe that this promises me eternal conciousness. In fact, if a concious being controls this universe, (and actually has total power over it, wich i dont really believe), he's a very sick-minded creature, who I would really rather die than spend eternity with. The thought of dying still depresses me. Never being with my family again, and I still believe I will be, but like anything, I cant fully believe it 100%.

Anyway, I always start thinking about how a person lives on non-spiritually. If you think about it, as long as mankind exists, only cowards die. True, no one will remember an average joe 200 years from now, but I certainly remember Napoleon, and often quote him in my mind alot of times when i need courage. Wether or not I care about anything he believed, he wasn't a coward. I'm sure people will remember Hitler 200 years from now, and for those who aren't brainwashed into hating him, will remember him when they need courage. For the people who roll their eyes at Napoleons quotes about not fearing death, those are the cowards who WILL die.

However, even cowards, who make no impact on society still live on. My great grandfather died when I was 10, and while not being a coward, he made an impact on my life. I'll always remember him, and in one way or another, he had an effect on the person I am today, and that will effect the way I raise my children, or even if I didn't have kids, effect the way I change people around me. Good or bad, everyone I know will live on inside of me after they are gone. Their memory dies with me, but the effects I had on the people around me live on.

Death doesn't scare me, just depresses me, if I think about true death. There is no use in fearing anything that is inevitable. I dont just want to live on in the typical way everyone else does, I want to live on like Hitler and Napoleon, and inspire people in the future. While my great grandfathers memory will die with me, Hitlers memory will live on for centuries to come, because he made a true impact on the world, or atleast made a serious attempt to. I might not make an impact on a scale like that, but I can make sure that I am thought of with honor, and people pass on stories about things I do in my lifetime. And I intend to do that, because that is the only way to be sure that you live on. That is the only afterlife we are actually promised. And while I really hope I'll be with my loved ones after my physical death, I know it's not promised. The main thing for me, is not living an average life, truly not fearing death (truly, like how most people make the claim, yet still go on with their pathetic existance) I mean truly not fear it, and do my best to move other people. And if you truly want eternal life, that is the only way. And it's not any more depressing, than reincarnation if you think about it. The theory behind that, is the memory of your past life is gone, so it's as if you died. If you cant remember something, then thats no different than it never happening in the first place, but with that, most believe eventually you will remember it all, but you can see what Im saying.

And even if the brainwashed public looks at you as they do Hitler, they still have to say "he was atleast brave". Napoleon for instance didn't care about anything but power, but I can still look up to him for his bravery, and wisdom, as I hope one day people will do to me. If there were a set of rules to follow, common sense would tell you that "god" would give them to you. Might is right, and bravery is something to be admired by everyone.

 

So your saying that people will remember people liek hitler, but not people like grandfathers and ect.?

 

This is exactly my mindset. I cannot live on after I die spiritually, but I can live on in the memories of others. I want to make a big enough impact on this world so that people will know who I was for hundreds of years. Whether my intentions be good or bad, dying isn't on my to-do list.

 

I've always wondered what the point of this was.

Seeing as you won't be around to know you are being remembered (I think) why should it matter?

 

I cannot agree more.

 

You forgot Steve Irwin Mate. He tryed to, and succesfull made a huge impact on the world. RIP steve Irwin!

 

I guess it would be more of a knowing that you will be remembered after you die than knowing that you are when you're dead, if that makes any sense.

 

You should want to leace a legacy after you die. It is very depressing to know that you can stay on this earth for a set amount of time and 100 year of death nobody knows who your are or if you existed... I dont fear death we are all doomed. It will come no matter what I do. Some people want to leave something more and become a person studied in histoty books. I just want to do something so I can be remembered by even if it is through my family only.