Strongest MIDLANE Champions

Still completely irrelevant in my opinion. Normals means absolutely jack for a champion like Evelynn. In normals, it should always be game over if you get ahead since people couldn't care less about victory. Evelynn is the easiest champion to get ahead on, especially because of her roam potential.

This would never work competitively. She's god awful against competitive mid lane picks. Additionally, ranked brings much more to the table than normals, including heightened map awareness. People actually care about roams in ranked; they will play especially carefully. If you're playing eve mid, you can guarantee that the other team is going to pay close attention to when you're missing.

Additionally, people actually give a lot of damn about victory. The other team is going to drag out the game as long as possible and you'll be next to useless in late game team fights; you have no gapclosers. I guarantee you won your longer games because the other team just couldn't bother to group up and play carefully, and you just got free picks over and over. If I watched your replays, I would probably witness your opponents being absolute retards.

And your longest game was lost even though you have 25 kills. A loss after snowballing speaks much more than a win after snowballing.

To close out, anything works in normals. Just because you snowballed against other casual players doesn't testify to how good Eve mid is. I promise you we are not 'underestimating the power of surprise'; you are overestimating it. If you can consistently climb with it in ranked then you'll have a better argument.

 

First you tell me a 2/3 win loss isn't a good example, period.
Then I come back with a 8/1 and then it has to be RANKED.
you can't keep upping your standards every time I counter your statement.

Regardless, you really don't use your search bar at all do you? It's not hard. There ARE people who can mid Eve, if you're smart about it. I use her stealth to surprise my mid lane opponent and when i've put them too much on edge and they hug their turret I go for a kill elsewhere while they think I still linger and watch them. It's all mind games, and I can guarantee strategies such as that could work in competitive too.



Just because someone has played a game for 10 years, doesn't mean someone can't come along and do something they've never encountered before and completely throw off their groove. I'm not speaking directly about LoL at this point, it's a tactic I use with every game I play at least somewhat competitively.

Once I have 16 champions to play ranked I will be doing the same there.

 

Eve mid isnt good. Simple as that lol. The reason you may be stomping in normals is because normals is legit bronze (ish) elo.
You can play anything anywhere and do well. Just because i take full AD Braum Mid doesnt mean its a good pick.

My Top 5 Would be (in no order)

Syndra
Leblanc
Viktor
Twisted Fate
Cass

 

You're very ignorant to the rest of my posts prior, I even stated that I don't consider myself a huge LoL player. Meaning that even if the bronze tiers are in draft queue, they're still more experienced than myself and if I can maintain a good win/loss at that point, then you must consider if I were to become more experienced as well.

 

I think what he is trying to day is that eve in elo where People start play good (platinum+) they stop giving away easy advantages and use the pros of the champions alot more.

In that kind of games it is verry hard to win as eve in mid beause the abilitys she have like invisible and mana regain while stealthed are irrelevant in laning phase which gives the opponent a heads start before the game even begins.

Anyway on the others side a challenger evelyn might/probably reck a platinum mid laner. But it will probably happen outside the laningphase rather than inside the laning phase.

Love the discussion though, since evelyn is one of my mains and she 's hella strong anyhow.

 

Cassio & Olaf played that extremely poorly. I've played eve mid and you should never get a hard push on someone like Cassio without being chunked heavily in return. Just because it's possible to play it and do well doesn't mean it's strong. A single QEEE combo from Cassio early should be enough to control the lane phase against Eve's low base hp. You provide very little to your team and rely on a good early game to have any impact before you're out-scaled, yet your early game in lane is awful.

Eve is one of the weakest champions in the game in terms of abilities if you exclude supports because her kit is very heavily built around her passive. Eve mid is extremely predictable because she has to push lane and roam to have an impact unless the enemy laner makes a huge mistake and by side lanes freezing all of the pressure she brings in her passive is almost completely negated. If you're roaming and getting kills then the issue is other people making obvious mistakes (Extending & fighting with Eve's location not being known), not the power of your champion.

It's not a strategy which would work in competitive where nearly every movement is known and communicated the second it happens and the jungler has to give up experience and vision in their jungle if they want to do something unpredictable. Your jungler can't contest raptors or scuttles in a 2v2 scenario because of your eve pick having such little damage before items.

Everything is viable up until high elo where people won't let you play to the few strengths you have and exploit your massive weaknesses. Normals aren't high elo and shouldn't be taken as proof of a champion being strong in a certain position or with a certain build.

 

Ive said from the beginning that Normals doesnt mean shit. Come up with another attack.

 

sona

 

I figured i'd weigh in on this since there's been a lot of back and forth.

I'm legitimately one of the best eves in the world and she's pretty weak in the mid lane. I'd say i would have around a 40% w/r with her mid lane while have a 58% in jg.

That being said I don't think she's horrible mid and i've played her there before and it requires a specific type of set up and communication with the rest of your team as she can't get ahead by herself if the enemy is evenly matched or the enemy is playing a select group of champions (low trading power and ability to get outplayed through jukes).

The ability to win purely off of a cheese pick is definitely possible but it'll cap you out at a certain ranking. Because of this your w/l % isn't too important as its more binary in the sense that you either win or lose based off of your enemies falling for "cheese" rather than you outplaying them with your micro/macro skills.

tl:dr The pick is suboptimal but can be made to work at lower levels.

 

Viktor - All day long.
Orianna - Great if your not matched with a noob team
Zed - ...
Yasuo - if you can play him. Rarely lose match ups with him to be honest.

 

I'd say Yasuo, Orianna, Zed, Viktor, and Ahri. Those are probably my hardest matchups when playing as Akali.

 

Goddamn zed is always going hard AF. Play him

 

Right now I'm going with Zed, Yasuo, Corki, Varus, Syndra no order theyre all tier broken

 

As of now, I'd say Zed is strong again, Katarina, talon, fizz, and maybe ahri.

 

Zed
Syndra
Ryze
Ori
Yasuo

Outplay potentials

 

You still think syndra is strong? I don't see here much at my elo. (Plat)

 

I think syndra is very strong in dia+ elo, just imo. Very heavy burst potential with outplay abilities via jungle ganks

 

Ah yeah that's true. How do you feel about ahri? I think she's just one of those champions who's kit will always make her a viable pick. I really want to know your opinion about her since I was thinking of one-tricking her to diamond.

 

Ahri is a very hit on miss. Really depends on the player. If played well, one tricking her to Diamond should not be a problem at all.

 

You think one-tricking fizz could get me a higher winrate over one-tricking ahri?