Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

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Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.
  1. Unread #1 - Nov 21, 2016 at 2:00 AM
  2. DominicIervasi
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

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    'Tap' - Tap
    'Snoose' - Snoose

    Hello fellow sythe users.

    Even though I am a new sythe user with not many vouches, I am a very honest and cooperative person, so I hope my scammer report is treated seriously.

    I have many screenshots to show, all I have to say is this, you will see some rather vulgar and angry language coming from myself in some of these screenshots, I decided to post them anyway to show the evidence in its entirety, I hope this doesn't slight your judgement of me.

    I have been scammed on sythe 2/3 times now, and when an honest person loses over 500m to the dishonest, they tend to flip out and loose it, I will admit I fell victim to this and got emotional, however this will not happen again, this post will be the last time I use sythe, I really don't think this dangerous site (no offence) is suited for honest/naive people like myself.

    When you see the screenshots of my skype conversations between me and 'Tap', you will see two different skype accounts, this isn't me trying to impersonate him or do anything dodgy, he just happened to change his skype account coincidently before the sale and after the sale (sounds weird I know) I will leave an example of both his skype accounts with their respective skype id tags, also with the message of him telling me that he changed his skype.
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    I will now give a summary of the story, followed by screenshots.

    A couple of weeks ago, I purchased an account off a sythe user called 'Tap', he has sold/bought multiple accounts and has the vouches to prove it.

    He posted an account with the following stats: 99 Fishing, 99 Agility, 76 Strength, (everything else level 1), priced at 250m osrs gold, I loved this account, I sent 'Tap' a thread post, followed by a pm, and then a skype conversation. He was made full aware that I was interested and serious about buying the account. As you can see, there is no mention of 'Snoose' being the original owner and trainer of the account.
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    However, the account was not level 99 agility yet, although it was close, around 96/97, and he told me it would take him around 3-4 days to get the agility to 99 before selling it to me. He stated that it was being hand trained and not botted, he also told me his 'personal friend' was training it for him.
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    He also failed to tell me who the original owner of the account was. Not only was 'Snoose' the original owner of the account, but he was the one 'hand training' the agility on it, this was who his mentioned 'personal friend' was, he always referred to him as a 'personal friend', he never said his name to me or showed me his sythe account. Whenever I said "who is the original owner of this account?" he just said 'its a personal friend, don't worry about it, you can trust him' etc. If I knew 'Snoose' was the original owner of the account, I wouldn't of purchased it in the first place. I told Tap that I trusted him, but I'm scared the original owner of the account will hack it back, he reassures me that it won't happen because the account comes with the registered email (this can be bypassed, vital account information can be used to bypass authentication security and registered emails).
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    And then another dodgy red light occurred, before I had even purchased the account, before the agility of the account was 99, he just wanted 50$USD off me, he said he needed it urgently, and he told me he wanted the 50$USD via paypal, he said if i did it then the account would definitely be mine and not be outbid by anyone else. I told him that what he was asking of me was unprofessional and irresponsible, I told him if he is so desperate for money in the future, it is obvious he will just hack the account back from me, I told him his desperation and pushiness revealed bad character flaws in him. Because I am a nice guy, I gave him the 50$USD. He later on mentioned that the account would still be priced at 250m! (the starting price), I told him no, I gave him 50$USD already, so the new price is 200m, after some arguing he finally gave in to my fair point. Ever since my account got hacked I contacted him through the paypal refund feature to get my $50USD back, I could forcefully take it off him, but I would rather give him a chance to send it to me, so his paypal account keeps a good reputation.
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    So finally the account gets 99 agility, he is ready to sell the account and I am ready to buy it. As the trustworthy person I am, I send him the 200m right away, no questions asked. He then proceeds to give me the accounts login/password details, along with the original registered email that was identical to the login of the account. I asked him to give me any specific details of the account, first passwords and any other vital details to help me restore the account if it were to be hacked by its original owner, he told me that I didn't need this, he reassured me that the registered email is all I need, he also told me that he offers 'money back guarantees on his accounts'. After the transaction, 'Tap' also left me a nice vouch (I removed mine for the time being but I am happy to give it back if I get my stuff, I don't want to leave a negative vouch either).
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    I really loved that account, I told 'Tap' to tell the original owner that I appreciated the account and I loved it, and that I had some big plans for it too, 99 hp, 99 strength. I told 'Tap' that if the account were to get hacked I would be devastated. After I bought the account I had a blast, here are some screenshots of me playing on my newly purchased account, some good times. You will also see that it had a bank-worth of around 55mill, this bank was also all hacked from me.
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    After a couple weeks of purchasing the account, I realise that it won't log me in, I try to log in again, and it doesn't work, I knew straight away that something suspicious was up. Here are some skype screenshots of me, losing my cool whilst talking to 'Tap's' new skype account. Now, instead of 'Tap' agreeing with his own refund policy, he implies that he will only refund me 25$USD on paypal at best, this doesn't seem fair at all. He tells me that he has been calling 'Snoose' on skype and he won't answer, I don't know if I can believe him. 'Tap' and 'Snoose' are long time friends, he told me that he even bought an account off him. He then finally tells me who 'Snoose' is, the original owner of the account that I purchased, he also tells me his email and his website. He tells me his skype and sythe account, I instantly add him and send him a vulgar PM (still no reply). After looking him up, I am disgusted at what I see, if I knew this filthy guy was the original owner of the account, I wouldn't of bought that account at all.
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    When I tried to recover the account, I got a message telling me what the new registered email address was, of course the majority of the email was covered in asterisk's for security reasons. Although that email looks like it says 'Snoose' to me, what do you think guys? I have no emails that start with an S.
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    I also would like to state that when the account was purchased, I changed the password and put an authenticator on both the runescape account and the registered email (also changed the registered email to a more secure one). This shows that only the original owner could of recovered it back and bypassed email/authenticator security with the vital information that he had of the account.

    'Snoose' and 'Tap' are long time friends, he doesn't want to admit it to me now, but he did admit it to me before, they are deeply connected with eachother. I have this weird feeling that they are trying to play good cop, bad cop on me, 'Tap' pretends to be nice and knows how to fake cooperation, but he is just trying to protect his own interests and really trying to avoid that refund, he is also trying to avoid getting a bad vouch.

    Now the truth is I have never even talked to 'Snoose' and he has never talked to me either, he will not reply to my messages, he is probably just trying to avoid contact with me until the bank pin expires. However, 'Tap' is trying to tell me that it isn't his problem anymore, he is not liable nor responsible for the account that he sold to me, as a trusted middleman who makes money selling accounts on sythe, who promises 'full refunds', and now its my business and my problem? I feel like this is unfair and unjust. I felt like I had to make this thread as a public service announcement, so noone falls for his trickery again. I also have no idea and evidence of 'Snoose's' involvement in all of this, I've never talked to him, it could just be 'Tap' scamming me all this time, by himself.

    I do not want the account back, it will get hacked back again by its original owner 'Snoose', this goes without saying.

    I'm not saying to ban anyone, but some accounts should get frozen until this is all resolved, I don't want to see 'Snoose' and 'Tap' making a dime until I am covered.

    Here is the damage, so I was hacked/scammed for the following amount:
    - 200mill osrs (account purchase) - 'Tap' possesses this.
    - 55mill osrs (bank) - 'Snoose' possesses this.
    - 50$USD via PayPal (partial account purchase/favour) - 'Tap' possesses this.

    I hope this scammer report was both in-depth and specific enough for you, I will be more then happy to answer any more questions in regards to this case.

    Thankyou for reading, godbless xx.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Nov 21, 2016 at 3:00 AM
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

    EDIT: The 50$ is refunded.

    Multiple incorrect statements.
    The only part that I possess is the 50$ paypal which I am refunding to him as we speak

    Secondly I provided proof that the trade was essentially a middleman between me and Snoose and I was selling for him. I did mention that the account was worked on by my partner(prior to him registering on sythe)

    Thirdly, ME and snoose were friends online after he sold me an account and I genuinely trusted him. Another thing is that there is no proof the account was ever recovered I am only going off good faith and refunding the 50$ that I received. I will post any images requested but realistically there iant any proof account was recovered.
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Nov 21, 2016 at 3:16 AM
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

    Untrue.

    He is now claiming that he doesn't even have the 50$ on paypal to refund me, he just messaged me on skype and asked me to cancel my paypal refund request, even though I put the refund request on him and didn't even escalate it to the paypal resolution center level where I know I can get a full refund on it, because I am a trusted buyer with a business spending account.

    He says he will pay me back on December the 7/8th because its his birthday, coincidentally, that is the exact same date that I cannot escalate the refund case to paypal anymore due to its time frame limit.

    He also showed me his skype conversation with 'Snoose', and how he was worried that I would 'spoil' the levels of the account, (because it has 1 attack/defence), even though it was sold and he had the money, this is proof that he had intentions of hacking it back, as a trusted middleman, 'Tap' shouldn't of sold the account.

    I can show skype evidence of this is needed in future.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Nov 21, 2016 at 3:25 AM
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

    I don't have the money to refund. It pushed me to the negative. As for the comments that were made towards the spoiling kf tbe account that was prior to him ever receiving gold.And I sold this account for him because I trusted him after a successful account trade.

    And I was in need of 50$ desperately at the time, so I offered to reserve the account as Snoose wanted to sell it. Snoose got 200m and I 50$. I can show proof that I refunded him and that snoose has received the 200m.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Nov 21, 2016 at 3:44 AM
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

    This doesn't add up.

    'Tap' told me another story.

    I actually just remembered this one, 'Tap' mentioned to me how it was a 50/50 split, how both 'Tap' and 'Snoose' got 25$USD and 100m osrs out of it. -_- now my brain hurts. See the thing with compulsive lying is, when you keep doing it, you fail to cover your tracks.

    Although on a positive note, 'Tap' has me given back my 50$USD from paypal that I gave him. The claim still needs to be reviewed by paypal but I have confidence in him that it will come through, and when it does, I will get rid of the '50$USD via paypal' amount owed in the original post.

    Although if I didn't put up a scammer report, I really don't know if he would of come through, I think he just is being nice out of fear.

    'Tap' was also nice enough to offer me another account that he has, as a form of compensation, I feel like it was a nice and genuine gesture, but I just don't trust him as an account seller anymore, and I have no faith in him, he will hack it back in my humble opinion, either him or the original account owner, and I am done with sythe services too, not just him, but I trust noone.

    He just now gave me a deal, he told me that if I close this scammer report, he will give me 150m down the line with the profit he makes from selling accounts, is this a bribe, or is this noble? I cannot tell, I think the influence of sythe has ruined my morality.

    The truth is I am financially well off and its not the money that I am that angry about, its moreso the principal, I have told 'Tap' this many times before.
     
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  11. Unread #6 - Nov 21, 2016 at 3:53 AM
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

    Just to clear up a few things. I sold this account for a gentleman named Snoose. at the time he didn't have a sythe account and had sold me an account successfully. the deal was 50$ paypal me and 200m him. We did that and all seemed well. I made a new skype due to people doxing me. Snoose got the 200m. I am offering to replace the account or once I get 150m I will pay that to him, even though I never got any of the gold and have already refunded the 50$
     
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

    How could the deal of been that I would pay 200m to 'Snoose' and '50$USD' to you?

    I would've just paid you both in osrs gold as I thought was expected, it wasn't an organized thing at all.

    First of all, you didn't even tell me anything like that, out of the blue you said that you needed the 50$USD real bad, this was before the account was even purchased. You told me you needed the money badly and didn't even tell me why, and I gave it to you, and that's that.

    You didn't talk to 'Snoose' about percentages, you just took what you needed at the time, so don't act like it was something that you both agreed on, you just winged it, you needed money badly and you turned to the nicest and most generous person you knew at that time, which was me, so stop the lying please.
     
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

    Sounds like snoose and tap and probs the same person and tap hiding behind that account,considering snoose hasn't logged in for nearly 2 weeks and has been doing the same service as tap, this all sounds fishy
     
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

    Very nicely structured report, hate to see this happen to you as you clearly just wanted to buy an account..

    Hope this gets resolved soon.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Nov 21, 2016 at 8:31 AM
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

    I'm not lying. I did wing it a bit, however he already offered me to take a cut for selling it for him. As far as people assuming that I am Snoose please do an ip check and I have old conversations that I can post as well. Snoose's name is Brett and he owns the site namesie.com
     
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

    wow an ip check really gonna show that your using a vpn wont it and with the amount of ips nsoose has its obv that hes using a vpn/rpozy
     
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    Bought an account, was scammed by 'TAP' and 'Snoose'.

    I've banned them both. Tap owes you a refund in full regardless of whose account he sold, he is the one who has to refund you. In turn, the person whose account it originally was would owe him a refund
     
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