Animal Cruelty. YOUR Say

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Animal Cruelty. YOUR Say
  1. Unread #1 - Aug 12, 2007 at 8:09 AM
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    well, this is a VERY big topic.

    Lets start: -

    Ok, to begin.

    FAST FOOD:

    This is one of the main points. Over 850million CHICKENS alone are killed for fast food strips a year.

    Let me just mention this; No fast food has any anti-animal cruelty methods in place. Ohh sure they might say they do, but it all goes back to the suppliers.
    See, the suppliers are in competition. Too express this, the average chicken supplier might get $0.50 Cents AUD / Roughly $0.40cents USD per chicken killed.
    To compare this to the average butchershop, you pay like $10 per kg of chicken breast, which puts less pressure on suppliers to be so cruel to their animals.

    Look at this video >> http://www.goveg.com/swf/255-mym.swf

    Now, some testimony's of workers at these fast food meat suppliers.

    "A whistleblower at a Tyson slaughterhouse testified that birds intentionally were scalded to death, were blown apart by makeshift firecrackers, and had their legs broken by workers to fit them into slaughter-line shackles. Tyson is KFC’s number one supplier."

    "A PETA undercover investigation found workers who were ripping live animals’ heads off and shoddy, outdated slaughter machines cutting open birds’ legs, wings, and chest cavities at this Tyson plant in Alabama."

    "Workers at a former KFC “Supplier of the Year” slaughterhouse in West Virginia were caught tearing birds apart, spitting tobacco into their eyes, spray-painting their faces, stomping on them, and throwing them against walls—all while the birds were still conscious."

    Now this treatment is fucking crazy. I mean you would think these workers have souls/families and would have some compassion, but OHH no, they have no pity and like to burn chickens alive and skewer them and so on.

    Another Video. http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com/swf/pilgrims_web320.swf

    Though above only is focused on chickens, this does not mean they are brutalised more than other animals.

    Cows: Limbs ripped off alive, cut open alive, blinded and mutilated.
    Pigs: Most popular method of killing: Cutting them up alive with a chainsaw, also stuffed in tiny places where they suffocate and permanently cant walk once they come out..
    the list goes on..

    The next big factor in animal cruelty.

    Scientific Testing.

    This is a MUCH more brutal form of cruelty, though thank god it is not as large as Fast Food.

    To start off, look at this

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    This is a general idea of what i will talk about. Note i will be posting ALOT of pictures, so if you do not have a strong stomach, please do not bother scrolling down.

    Animal testing is used for: cosmetic, product, medical, make-up and drug products.

    Medical testing is one of the more gruesome ones, as they inject the test animals with the disease and then try cure it of the disease. Now they are injected with viruses that KILL humans, and once these animals have been cured of their disease (if they have, and not died), they will be quickly killed (after enduring countless hours of splitting pain).

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    As you can see, these pictures are the grotesque spectacle that modern day science/food industries do NOT want you to see.
    Please post your thoughts and your say.

    Note: Spam is not tolerated, and do not post simply to say "i feel for the animals" or "ouch" or something like that.

    :( Think of the animals :(
     
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    wow some of those pictures are gross but animal cruelty is a world wide problem and im sure most of those animals were already dead.. i Hope.

    Most people in 3rd world countries arne't cruel to animals yet in America it happens all the time not to speak of chinese eating cats and dogs .

    Afteral we all kill fish and other sea food so where can we set limits.

    The RSPCA is doing a good job as it is but i hope they can stop animal cruelty.
     
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    how are they dead when there looking straight at you?
    Animal cruelty is the biggest bull shit ever. I swear to god on my life i'll stop it one day, and kill every human being bastard that thinks this shit is right and laughs. Lets stazrt with that nigger dallas from rock of love with bret michaels.
     
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    thats fucking nasty man..
     
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    I think that animal cruelty is wrong, but I also think there is a difference between harming animals for a greater good and mistreating them needlessly. Medical testing is something that saves lives. Do you really want to wait until another method of testing medicine is found while you're deathly ill just so animals don't have to die?
     
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    I agree with dpunk on one thing, we need to do this for testing, However I don't think they should beat them to Death.
     
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    This nearly reduced me to tears.

    Animal cruelty is something I take VERY seriously,
    and I urge everyone to tootle on down to your local
    animal shelter and give a donation. And I'm not being sarcastic.

    It's nice to see someone shares my views on animal cruelty,
    so there's a hooray for Berson4. :)
     
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    macroman the thing about Chinese people eating cats and dogs has been over exaggerated and stereotyped. And it's actually usually Koreans :):)
     
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    As much as I love all animals, I'd rather have products tested on animals than on us.
    Chicken were made for us to eat.
    Theyre shot in the head so a quick and painless death.

    A few years back this crazy old man put his 2 kittens the microwave, and this happened on my street.. The cops brought the microwave out and it was covered in blood..
    Dont know why but I felt like saying that ^

    I love all animals [except ferrets] and think animal cruelty is wrong.
     
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    i guess you can make a topic about it but it won't make any difference.

    IF 850m chickens are killed every year think how many jobs that provide for people?...

    that probaly alone gives a few hundred thousands if not millions to government for tax.

    But i still feel sorry for these animals =(
     
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    Here is the meltdown:
    Fast Food: Allowed
    Scientific Testing: Not Allowed
    I really do not think it is going on that much, besides you made animal testing look worse than it is.
     
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    Animal Cruelty is happening world wide, right under peoples noses. If you think it's uncommon then your extremely ignorant, with all due respect..
     
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    ^^ It is happening as we speak. It IS a worldwide problem, and lucky that most countries have animal rights programs. Chinese eating cats and dogs has nothing to do with the fact they are tortured. If the animal is killed painlessly, and doesnt know whats coming to them, then fine thats ok..


    You do have a point there. But that is only focusing on animal testing. However, they DO cut corners. While the animals are under testing, they starve/bash them, and sometimes give cut them open alive. those pictures of the rabbit in my first post, THOSE WHERE ALIVE (at the time of them being cut open). Done resposibly, i guess.


    Firstly, 850M chickens a year is only for fastfood. Annually over 9B chickens (if thats the only type of animal we are talking about), are killed. Also, again not true. Factories have around 100,000 chickens in there at one time. Maybe 10 people working there. And like i said before, they can only sell ONE chicken off for maybe 40cents. They do cut corners, and they DO put drugs in their food, to the extent they cannot move their bodies off their scrawny legs.

    Also, tax? Providing the fast food companies do not cut corners AGAIN, id doubt that they need to pay alot of tax. Either way, with "all" that money pouring in from fast food chain's to the goverment (if they do give), im sure the goverment would take a more active stand on the meat suppliers.

    And lastly, ^. You are wrong. Meat for fast food is allowed, but the conditions the animals are in is NOT allowed. therefore, by companies like KFC/McDonalds, and so on, KNOWING about the conditions, and not doing anything, THEY are violating the animal rights laws, which is technically illegal.

    Also, those pictures are the "behind the scenes" animal testing. They do not want you to see this. You cannot prove to me that, if any, laboratories that use animals for testing, do it humanely.

    Yeh, well thats about it
     
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    As far as eating animals I am cool with that
    BUT if a animal eats us it should just be left alone or if one animal eats 100 humans it should be still left alone because it was more then likely are fought and they were there first
    I would pefer though how we usually do it since livin on a small farm
    If you want a animal go buy it your self and raise it then eat it if you want it

    Animal Testing I think is wrong why test something on animals for use who knows something might work on animals and not on use one day and kill a whole bunch of us. If it is for us it should be tested on us

    Animal Curtely Is a BIG NO
    I have 2 sugar gliders (google them)
    1 dog and a horse and one horse
    Alot of kids get animals and dont no what they are getting there self into
    I brought my animals all by myself if you want a animal buy it for yourself and see how much you want it then instead of somebody else (I could go some much futher with this one but aint)
     
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    thats also the reason why:
    A. I dont eat fastfood that often, and our meat is controled, because we (the Dutch) don't have such an ignorant, evil, and moneyhungry goverment.
    If something like that happened here, half europe would know it in less than a week. There are animals beaten up, but it's by some evil people, and most meat is produced by butchers who work in controlled butchershops. There are very much inspections.

    B. It tastes like shit. Why are animals killed to be eaten by overweighted american fat kids, who will have cholesterol problems at the age of 20, that only eat it to become even fatter. The food has NO taste at all, it's the sauce that gives it a taste. You can better give ppl soya shit instead of this (and im no vegetarian, I like eating meat), instead of killing all those animals.
    Maybe they taste like crap or taste like nothing because their bodies is so ruined that the meat is also ruined.


    also, chickens here in Holland walk around free on farms and lay their eggs. We had those chickens crammed in cages some time ago, but it was not that horrible as shown in the video, and those aren't being sold anymore (I guess).

    Animal cruelty is something we need to think of.

    I also like the musicvideos from "Rise Against - Ready to fall", and from "Linkin Park - What ive done" because they show us what really is going on around us.

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    I also seen pigs being killed in Cuba (im half cuban) for their meat, the people do it themselfs, and they really raise their animals, they don't beat them up, give them enough food (at least, what they can afford). And if they are being killed, they wanna do it as fast as possible, but because they don't have those electrical shit to shoot in their heads, they stab a knife in their throat and let it bleed to death, sounds cruel, but it is not as cruel as that, and they don't mean to harm the animal, it was raised for it's meat, so it has to be killed later. I was not shocked by that, only the fact the pig screams so much, it bothers you than a bit, but the first vid, really made me think.
     
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    wow wtf those are some gross pictures
     
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    ^^ Ok, at the ignorant idiot. Firstly : Reported for the stupidest post EVER. this thread is ABOUT animal cruelty, hence the pictures.

    Secondly, @ damien, im not sure about the dutch (though i trust you ;)), but i hear the jews have very strict laws regarding the slaughter of animals, and they are very considerate of them, too the extent that some people eat their "kosher" type of meat
     
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    It's sick and out of hand, i understand that we need food to survive but preparing the food we eat in that manner..and the science stuff, WHAT HAPPENED TO RATS? it's still wrong but less sad than DOGS AND CATS, it makes me sick to my stomach....thats my thoughts..
     
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    what happened to the rats?

    oh, they just got dissected alive to "examine" their organs or some shit. (probably for fun, as they couldnt conduct an experiment like that)

    also, just because cats/dogs are known to be lest of pests or w.e, the cruelty shown to the smaller marsupials is just horrendous
     
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    i agree, expecally the dead mouse
     
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