Columbine Shooting

Just making a point.

 

Callin anyone in the world innocent always sounds like a matter of opinion. But thats just the way I personally feel about it and Im sure not many epople agree especially with cases such as this where the victims were minors and teachers. But no I think their innocence is all in your perception of it. Yes, some of them were not the people who were taking it upon themselves to judge and condemn the boys. But most of the dead considered themselves christians and is it a christianly thing to do to let people be treated that way? hell no. i certainly dont think so. if you see someone else getting beat up every day and you dont do anything about it, youre as guilty as the person hitting them. and to me, its the same with verbal abuse which can sometimes be worse cause its the hurt that wont stop hurting for people with nothing better to do than sit around and hate. the reason they shot random people was because it wasnt supposed to be a school shooting. it was supposed to be a damn massacre. they planned on their numbers being around 300-600 people. they didnt care who died by bullet, they were taking everyone out by flame. to them, everyone that either hurt or didnt help them deserved to be judged the way they had. yea they planned the whole thing. they had the time didnt they? werent going to any slumber parties were they? the fact that they planned it makes it easier for me to relate. because youve got to figure that nowhere during all that planning time did anyone give them a reason to stop. out of everyone they didnt care if they hurt, they let like 2 people go. thats just plain sad.

 

The people they killed are still innocents to me, because they did not have Guns and they were not fire'ing back. Its not like the people that were killed were in a war, this was just a senceless killing.


Maybe noone stopped them because they werent showing any signs. Maybe they were showing little sign, but you cant expect people to walk up, hey man I noticed your a little depressed not thinking of shooting up the place are you? You cant prevent something without knowing its going to happen.

And if I can remember one guy the day of the shooting was told not to go into the school I think. He didnt do his job in warning everyone about the hint he was given

 

Lol, just because you were proven to be so ignorant of the situation doesn't mean you have to go snapping at the guy who proved you wrong.

 

I really think the "we were bullied" is bullshit. I think they had serious psycological problems and their parents neglected that. Also, I really don't see how you can sympathize with the shooters, considering the people they killed were mostly kids who hadn't done anything. They were not some punk rock kids with balls, they were just mental and killed a bunch of innocent people, how can you sypathize with them unless your trying to be hardcore?

 

I'm not informed a lot about the situation. I remember seeing it on the news, but I was only 5. I just did a little bit of research, and in my opinion, I sympathize with the victims. Although many other people in this thread have stated that they've felt the need/urge to kill someone/people, as have I.

I think at some point we all do and will.

But the supposed motive behind the killer's actions was inexcusable. Even if it was a different motive, they just shot everyone they could.

And about Cassie. There's no proof that she said it, though I truly hope that if the situation occured, she DID say it.

 

Both, its a situation that could've very well been avoided.

 

Everyone goes "ohh poor victims, they lost their lives. Oh poor families they lost loved ones." But what about the shooter? What did he have to go through to be pushed to commit such an act? What kind of world pushes two young teenagers to go on a mass killing? How do you think they were being treated before all this? Even now, after these gruesome killings, has anyone even stopped to think about what they might have felt throughout their lives?

If one person.. Just one! Had ever though "poor boy who gets bullied. I should go and try and make friends." This might have been prevented.

Has anyone noticed that in most, if not all school shootings, the shooters are the ones who have been bullied constantly throughout their lives?

So should we blame the shooters for their violence? Or should we take a look at the society that made them for what they were.

All the school shooters in the past are victims too. Bless them.

As you can see, the shooters have my complete sympathy.

I also see people saying that they were just troubled/angry people so they should take the blame themselves. But anyone stop to think WHY they'd be so angry and troubled in their lives?

 

Are you saying the innocent victims deserve NO sympathy whatsoever? That this was completely their fault?

Okay, so what IF the shooters DID get bullied. EVERYONE has been at one point in their life, and if not, is going to.

Its how you deal with it, there was STILL no justification AT ALL for what they did.

 

that was a sad day

 

Your wrong wrong wrong.

Rip?
Jesus, your sick. They were psychopaths. They had many mental disorders.

 

Do you know how many 'normal' people around you actually use anti-depressants? Just because they're on them doesn't mean they're nuts :S. Though these shooters may have been. I can't know for sure.

But point still stands. No one thinks about the shooter. Just what hes done.

How wrong am I? Ever spoken to someone who've witnessed these school shootings? See what they think?

And another thing, just because its in a movie.. doesn't mean its right.

And I didn't realize this was a place for flaming each other.

 

I wasn't flaming you, just saying you were wrong. I've studied so much about this school shooting, i KNOW they were fucked up in the head.

 

What the fuck? Is that a M16 and a shotgun I see? How did those worthless bastards even get hold of such powerful weapons? I hope they're burning in hell.

 

No what im saying is wether it was 1000 or 1 its still killing and still should be treated the same.

 

They bought the ammo from wal-mart I believe.. But the guns I don't know.

 

Has everyone forgot about the Virginia Tech shooting i mean it only happen not too long ago and more people died there then in columbine and the only time i see people talking about it is on espn about the vt football team

how do you all feel about that shooting and the differences between the vt shooting and columbine

 

There's not too much intelligent debating happening, so this thread is hereby moved into General Discussion.

 

No they didn't kill everyone they saw.. I was watching a tv show on the Columbine shooting and there were a couple of students that they let go. The guy was talking about how he was under a library cart and the one killer who was phsyco asked him to identify himself or he will kill him and he identified himself as John and and the other killer stepped up and asked if it was John Savage. And it was John Savage. John said whats up? THe Killer said. "Eh you know.. just killing people.." John said "you going to kill me?" Killer said "No get out and run now." I remember this very one because it gave me chills when the killer said .. "Eh you know.. just killing people."

 

i feel sorry for victims.. fucking k-mart for selling them fuckers guns >_< shame on you assholes.