The thread disproves god entirely

For the third time, you posted a thread that was dedicated to the discussion of the existence of God. One thread will suffice. If this thread ever dies, you are free to create a new one.

I don't think that any of the staff are 13.

Also, the main people who disagree with you are dpunk, and I. I don't know about dpunk, how old he is, etc., but clearly, his age is not a factor as he is able to be perfectly rational. As for myself, I am 18, and have studied evolution outside of year 8.

 

God promised the messiah.
Jesus walked the earth, rose from the dead.
Created the world.
Idk read it yourself if you need more examples

 

I don't believe in god, to me it's just a cover up from the truth.

I used to believe in the "Big Bang" theory, but if you think about it...

"Is it Merle a coincidence that we have feet we walk on?"
"Is it Merle a coincidence that we have teeth for biting food, throat to swallow and a digestive system?"

Is it really all a coincidence, life's like a jigsaw puzzle?

Well I'll let you answer that one ^

Regards,

Sp3ke.

 

Someone reply to this...............

 

Other possible realities? Why would he just change the world we live in right now? Isn't the scenario he created for us today, good enough? I think it fits our lifestyle well. Other things that happen are too...

Eh heh. Eventually, pleasure and joy would just be "normal." If everything that is good, that comes to us...then it would be normal. Bad and good that comes to us, is considered normal. If everything on Earth was good...then everything on Earth would just have a neutral feeling.

But a balance of good and bad is normal. That's how life works. God isn't going to make everything "good" in the world. That's why there's hell, that's why he punishes people...


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For one, it got locked because there was already a topic discussing it. Also, that thread was the most idiotic piece of work I have read in a while. I really thought you should have been given a temporary forumban just for posting something as stupid as that.

First, who learned about evolution when they were 8? Did I miss that day? I barely learned anything about evolution when I was in 9th grade Biology. Most of what I know I had to find out for myself. Another thing, for the last fucking time, THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION MAKES NO REFERENCE TO THE EXISTENCE OF A GOD! Saying that it does is a straw man argument.

Also, for the record I'm 16.

You started with presuppositions again. You first started with the presupposition that a God exists, and went from there with more. Start with NONE and try giving some examples.

I think someone did.

I didn't say it wasn't good, I just said there are other possible ones that could be better.

Who can really say it would be neutral? What if the state of our minds were changed so that an ever-increasing amount of dopamine flowed in. Yes, it would be "normal", but it wouldn't ever not be utter pleasure. The same goes for "good". What if there was an ever increasing amount of good things that happened, then it wouldn't be considered neutral.

That may be how life works now, but an omnipotent being could change that in an instant.

 

Ugh.... Many sects believe that God also had a heavenly father and mother. Red shift isn't the hardest concept to prove, in fact it's one of the easier ones. If he came down and proved he existed there would be no reason for this life. We're here to be tested. If there was no reason to have faith, there is no test.

 

Its not a test the word "test" implies that the giver of the test is seeking the results, and an omniscient being knows all before it happens, therefore has no need to see the results of any test. Also, you shouldn't need faith for the very basic foundation of you're belief. You should know for a fact that God exists. You should, however, need faith to know that he will provide for you, keep you safe, etc. Needing to have faith that the God you're belief is based on even exists is far more extreme than it should be.

 

Some say that the messiah hasn't come, nor will he ever come.

Jesus lived, but didn't rise from the dead.

God didn't create the world.

I have read it.

 

Prove it then, God promised a messiah, Jesus came from a a virgin.
Did lots of miracles and not one person tried to say other wise back then, the only thing they got him on is because he claimed to be god. Which he is.

 

What, disprove what is essentially a storybook asserts? Why on Earth would I need to disprove something if it had never been proven in the first place?

 

Christianity is just another byproduct of controlling people with false threats and promises.

Seriously, it all started with some semi-literate sheep herders claiming to receive visions from divine forces. They preached Heaven and Hell. When one man asked them, "Do you have any evidence support your claims?"

Of course the sheep herder didn't have a single piece of evidence. "Only through faith thou shalt recieve solicitude in the Kingdom of Heaven!", he said, "Those whom do not have faith in Our Creator, shalt burn in the fiery pits of Hell for all eternity!"

Back then, people weren't as educated as we are today. It was the immature intellectual stage 2000 years ago.

People were simply controlled by fear. Today, not everyone is controlled by fear, they simply believe because they don't understand what will happen once a person passes away.

Now, nobody knows for sure what happens once a bio organism dies, but the most logical conclusion is that we cease to think, feel and memorize. There will be nothing, no big black space, no Heaven, no Hell, no emotions, no nothing. This is a hard concept for people to comprehend, but it really isn't that bad if you think about it. You won't feel sad, lonely, or care at all when dead, because there will be no brain activity.

 

So you're saying it's fair for God not to create Earth and not to give us life? You think he should have just said, "Well, you would've been good, go on to heaven.... Well, you might've been bad, I think I'll bottle you up and send you through this neat little tube down to hell forever and all eternity.

Yes, quite so. Back when they didn't know the "except after C" part of the "I before E" rule.

Honestly, you ended up giving no reasons to support your opinion. You just made up a pretty little story about shepherds waddling around talking to each other.

 

No, he is saying that "testing" us is redundant, because God is supposed to know everything, the past, present and future. If that's so, why would he need to test us? Wouldn't he already know who would be qualified for Heaven and who would be qualified for Hell? The Bible is full of flaws on so many levels that I literally puked in bare disgust, when my parentals forced me to go to church as a child.

There is a fine line between an occasional typo and atrocious grammar in general. If you read through my post, you would see that I spelled it correctly the first time. The second time was a simple typo.

I also find it humorous that you resort to something as irrelevant as grammar to fend off any threats made towards your faith.

But hey, what can you expect from someone who still believes in overexaggerated fairy tales with zero validity?

 

Honesty guys I belive so much in my god taht I could care less if you flame me here, simply because I'm not going to read it, so dont try to correct me or quote me on this "Dancin Jesus" Jump off a bridge, tell me where you end up....

 

That's very ignorant of you. If someone told me that they had solid evidence proving that God exist, ask to see it, then research it myself.

If it was bulletproof indeed, I'd convert and become religious with no hesitation.

 

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"Faith is a cop-out. It is intellectual bankruptcy. If you can only accept a principle through faith, then you are saying that it cannot be taken on its own merits." - Dan something, former evangelist, 1992.

If your reasoning tells you something is false, why would you believe in it nonetheless?

 

That's very ignorant of you. If someone told me that they could only believe if they had proof, they have not truly converted.

 

Because you certainly can't believe in something which has been proven, right?

Holy shit, you suck at debating.

I also love the way you deliberately chose to ignore my other post.

 

You bring up valid points. There is no need to directly attack another forumer.