"Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

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"Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)
  1. Unread #1 - Aug 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM
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    "Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

    Ways to fix
    1. Move to a sub-section
    2. Restore post count
    3. Make a mini rank to reward users for posting (Name ideas?)
    4. ?


    You can also refer to this: Is the "Price Checks" section dead?

    It's dead, the only people posting in there are ones looking for a price check, most are lucky to get a response or two lately.

    I don't know about you, but I would not have a ghost town section out in the open. I suggest making it a sub-section for RS market. Or revamp it.

    Bus suggested that it could be because of lack of post count for people contributing in there. This might be true, I'm not sure. If we didn't want to make it a sub-section we could allow it to increase post count again and see if it gets more attention? I see no harm in allowing users to increase their post count if they are actually helping another user.

    Just set spam rules in the section so users can't just post for example, "Worth $30". Instead, they need to explain why they came to that conclusion. This would prevent spam post counts, and also help people understand how to price their accounts in the future so they don't need to ask again.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Aug 17, 2016 at 1:08 PM
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    "Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

    I'm supporting, honestly that section needs postcount or nobody is ever going to post there, nobody is going to waste their time posting price checks when it doesn't even get posts(obviously considering the sections dead).

    I support adding PC back.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Aug 17, 2016 at 4:24 PM
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    "Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

    If people want a price check, with the idea of having post counts they shouldn't be seeking it in that section, so no support on making it post count worthy sounds stupid.

    But definitely need to do something about it, I can't even get a heads up on price checks for miniranks that's why I don't ever post there, knowing I wont get an answer.
     
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    Why do you think its stupid letting posts in that section count towards post count? If someone is willing to lend their advise and help you get a better idea on the value of whatever you posted I think that deserves to count towards post count.

    If you get post counts for posting in Suggestions as long as you dont just say "I agree" then you should get post counts in price checks as long as you dont just post a number. Otherwise, remove post count from suggestions as well. Just my opinion.
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Aug 17, 2016 at 5:19 PM
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    "Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

    Suggestions help the site; the forums, etc ..participating in the betterment of the site is fine for post count, again post count shouldn't even be a sought after thing.

    Price checks are misc things, and I don't believe post count in that section should be the incentive for people to want to post there, that just sounds like it'll be un-necessary spam and more time for mods to deal with, even with rules to anti-spam.

    I'm sure the no-post count ability is there for a reason.

    What people need to do is actively try contribute to the price check forum, hopefully in the forum move; when that market tools section is moved to the top it will be more view-able, and perhaps more visited.

    Moving it to the RS, and making it a sub-forum would be daft because like I said above I asked for miniranks pc.
     
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    "Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

    I hate to disagree here, but I do. Price checks help the forums as well because they pertain to the market, which is exactly what Sythe is, a market. If new users are unsure of prices it hurts the market. They may even not bother posting for sale topics because they are unsure. If it didn't help the website, there would be no reason to even have a market tools section.

    I agree that post count shouldnt matter, but at the same time I still see no reason why it shouldn't be there. To me, market tools are more important than suggestions. But, post count isn't why we are here.

    Also, I only made the suggestion of making it a sub-section if the mods have no other ideas for making it more active. Mainly because you don't want to give a dead forum its own section. It makes the community seem dead.
     
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    "Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

    Sythe is a community & a market.

    If you didn't have this suggestions section you wouldn't be able to post this suggestion, market tools are equally important. >.>

    Anyways who ever decided to have no post count did so for obvious reasons. Such as spam. MM section has no post count but people still actively use the section.

    I don't think saying "hey you can have post count here, so ask and answer pc's now" will work or make the section active again, is what I mean.
     
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    "Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

    Support, it definitely needs to be moved and post count friendly. Reading the rules I fail to see why anyone would consider price checks to be spam? So I don't know why post count isn't already there to begin with. Maybe it could fall under the second part, such as "Posting for the sole purpose of increasing post count", but that to me would be one user constantly posting inaccurate price checks. A post that's on topic, helpful and accurate to me isn't spam. Also I wouldn't compare MM threads to price checks, two completely different topics and sub-forums.

    Spamming
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    • Posting short, unhelpful comments (such as "cool", "nice acc,", "added" etc), including free bumps on other's threads and bumps on stickies
    • Posting for the sole purpose of increasing post count
    • Posting comments with little to no relevance to the topic
    • Creating multiple threads advertising the same thing, regardless of the section

    But I don't think the post count is the main issue here, I think there's just not enough community support for there to be any price checks.
     
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    "Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

    Used MM as an example, because it's a market tool.
    Agree I just don't think there's enough community support.

    Perhaps if there was a reward for people who have a consistent record of helping/aiding in answering price checks - a better incentive then post counts, and they'll want actively try help. However someone who gives out a reward would have to decide if their posts are worthy. (like the detective minirank)

    Such as a helper minirank or something, this could be extended onto other sections; sythe.org support/personal support forums.

    Thoughts?
     
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    "Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

    I added the idea for a mini rank to the topic. This would be a harmless incentive that could possibly increase interest again?
    Looks like we had the same idea
     
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    I think that's a good idea. Is the personal support mini rank still available? I remember it being a cat? That could also be stretched to the price check thread.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Aug 17, 2016 at 8:25 PM
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    "Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

    The Community Gen is a cat, and the Personal Support forum is a panda. Those are participant miniranks. Perhaps something permanent could be awarded. FireZ created a spam forum thread which awards people who do the best detective work getting users banned by reporting scammers/evaders; it's the detective minirank, a magnifying glass. We could have the same concept for helpers, rather then it being a participant minirank.

    I remember there being a suggestion for something like this.

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    Rare miniranks to promote thread creation

    Something along this idea; but for helpers in specific helping sections.
     
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    Maybe something like this for participation? I don't think it should be permanent, as it would stop people from continuing to participate in the section once they got their mini rank, and the whole point is to bring in people for a long period of time.
     
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    Yeah it should def require them to remain active in the section, otherwise it would only be a temporary fix.
     
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    true I guess,

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    Bumping this, would love to hear what some of the staff think about this?
     
  33. Unread #17 - Aug 18, 2016 at 9:13 PM
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    If you add post count to it, it will just create mindless spam/responses.
     
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    "Price Check" needs moved or revamped (Mini-Rank)

    Well its already been said a few times already, but I can say it again. It was just one of a few possible ways to get things more active in that section, not the only solution suggested. Also, simply saying it would cause spam because it gives post count doesn't make sense. Most sections here on Sythe give post count, and the spam is kept under control in those sections. Sythe has rules for things like this. Price Checks would be no exception.
     
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    Giving a price is effortless. We shouldn't reward effortless opinions.
     
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