A Simple Question.

Does time have a beginning?

 

It must. It doesn't seem possible that time has been going on forever. Well, That's my opinion.

 

Yes. Time has a beginning... 't'. .


The point being. That time doesn't exist... just .

exactly that. You can't say universe began at a certain point in time.. because a certain point in time does not exist.

 

True. We could all say that time has no beginning, but also has no end. But is it true? Nobody knows for sure.

 

But time=4th dimension.

 

No, because an end is only a beginning. So the beginning of time, would be the end of time... so time would not end.. because it would begin again. But time does not exist, so if it does exist while it doesn't then it can't end but it can so it will always start over, and never begin.

^that makes sense to me.. >.>.



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Time is quantum physics, if you will. Meaning, it can be changed, or bent, but we haven't the ability to do so... we could travel time, but there's a 1 in 100 octillion chance that it would happen randomly.

 

Slowww downnn =/ So many ends...So many beginning's... I don't get it.. The beginning of time=The end of time=Time not ending=Begin again=Time not existing=IF it does exist while it doesn't=not ending=But it is possible it can=It will rapidly start over=Never begin

Makes sense now.

 

Well, two things.

Time can be compared to a "line".

A line can be described as an infinitely thin, infinitely long, perfectly straight curve (the term curve in mathematics includes "straight curves") containing an infinite number of points.

And Deacon, your saying theres a chance that we CAN, or someone possibly even HAS traveled time before? It can just happen randomly?

 

For the most part... a couple of equals in random places... but yeh.


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If time begins, then every beginning MUST have an end. You're born and die. The universe expands and shrinks. Planets explode and reform. So.. through that knowledge, EVERYTHING's ending is just a beginning. And EVERYTHING's beginning will untimely lead to everything's end. Which could theory be put into the human life cycle, but then we eliminate God (which I don't like discussing).

Ok, that being known, if everything has ended, and began, then Time will surely end.. HOWEVER, it's just going to begin again, so you can't call it an end. BUT, since time is technically non existant (using again the idea that everything begins after it ends) you can safely assume that time will not end. But it has to end to begin, because otherwise it goes on forever, and nothing is forever, because it has to END to BEGIN. Make sense?



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Yes Nick, Time travel IS possible... Using the idea of Quantum Physics (I.E. There's a chance that someone's atoms could be in the exact spot at the right time in which they will fall DIRECTLY through the earth)... Knowing that, someone could theoretically use the curvature of "Time" to "Fall" through it. Effectively traveling time. However, the problem with that is, you cannot fall through it if it doesn't exist.

 

That's what I personally assumed.. (about the time travelling)

I guess we wouldn't notice it or something? I couldn't imagine what it would be like.. Going into a new, unseen world. It'd be phenomenal. What would happen to your body? Your mind? What would happen to you? Wouldn't everything go corrupt? You'd be duplicated..?

 

But that's the thing.. it wouldn't be a new world. EVERYTHING must start over... It'd be an old world..


And Daily.. I didn't see that line part.. If time is a line... you effectively eliminate any chance of going through time. And, you make it so nothing can restart. If you are born, and then you die.. then that's it.. the time line continues. But if you are born, you die, and you are born again... then you can safely assume that time is a circle.. and.. There are many things to relate everything to circles... or spirals .

As in the movie "Pi" he finds that everything works in spirals, a spiral is a form of a circle. It rotates in a circle, so even if time is at the end (or center) of that spiral, then it would seem infinite. Now, thinking that, Time would be the center, and edge of everything. But it would deffinately follow my previous rant.


Circle of life, galaxies, pouring creamer into a cup of coffee, the wind blows.. everything moves in a deffinate pattern. A line is not a pattern, because it never repeats. Time repeats, so time cannot be a line.

 

I believe that time starts when a person can remember, because who needs the past?

 

Also very true. Although, there are some things that need to be remembered in your past, but yes. Life's about what is ahead of you, not behind you.

 

Hm. Well first, where you debate the thing about the line, I think you are mixing "human life" with "the universe" and "time".

Humanity does tend to "repeat" itself, that is why we must educate ourselfs of the past, so we do not repeat it. But everything that happens in the universe doesn't repeat. Things are allways happening, changing, even though its the same universe.

And Pi, I see what you mean. Pi is a circle, just repeating itself over and over again, going on forever, with no beginning and no end. I suppose that would be better to compate time to than a line.

 

Or maybe time doesn't have a beginning, and it goes on in eternity?

 

We already discussed this, but I thought I would post it here too

Hm. Well first, where you debate the thing about the line, I think you are mixing "human life" with "the universe" and "time".

Humanity does tend to "repeat" itself, that is why we must educate ourselfs of the past, so we do not repeat it. But everything that happens in the universe doesn't repeat. Things are allways happening, changing, even though its the same universe.

And Pi, I see what you mean. Pi is a circle, just repeating itself over and over again, going on forever, with no beginning and no end. I suppose that would be better to compate time to than a line.

 

No I don't think so. The only beginning that time ever had was when we invented the idea of it.

 

well im a christian so GOd made time ect ect blah blah blah

 

We're not speaking of the word.. but the concept put into words.

 

mmk then. Still no, I don't think that there was ever a start of time because I don't think there was ever a start to the universe. If there was always something for the concept of time to apply to, I don't see why at one moment time wouldn't exist and the next it would.