Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

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Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?
  1. Unread #1 - Jun 5, 2007 at 1:14 AM
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    EDIT: Updated my info thanks to Yakov
    Because too many people think i'm trying to convince you guys they deserved the Holocaust.

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    If anybody knows a Holocaust survivor (I.E grandparents) please share your stories.


    First Off, I'm a Neo-Nazi.

    I think what the Jewish people went through was horrible, inhuman, and ghastly. I've read books, and other research articles. So, once again, i'm just putting out a question/discussion.


    This is aimed towards the Christians...

    As most people know, in the Christian faith, Jesus was crucified to a cross, and died. Among one of the races of prosecutors , was the Jewish. Now, in my question, just pretend to be a Christian long enough to reply to this part.

    Is the reason this went on so long without mercy, and all of the horrible crimes committed is because God didn't save them? I know Christians believe God is all forgiving, and if you repent he'll save you.
    But.They didn't believe he was the son of god so i really doubt they repented to him?

    Is the reason the Jews endured the holocaust, for standing by as the song of god was murdered?




    And a question to all Jewish people.

    During the Holocaust, many of the victims had faith in God to the very end of their lives.
    What do you think gave them that faith? I mean, babies were burned alive, i'm sure we've all seen pictures of the skeleton like bodies of the people who went through the Holocaust. To any current Jewish person on Sythe.

    If YOU personally were going through the Holocaust right now, the worst part, everything was falling apart around you. Would you still trust that God is doing what is right, or that there's a plan for you and the madness?

    If you answered, please enlighten me why, or why not.

    And once again, my deepest regards to all the Jewish people who died during the horrible events of the Holocaust. I personally would give up very quick, and wouldn't make it through the first month, so my respect to you.

    and once again, PLEASE share stories if you would be so kind!



    Discuss.

    (please remember i'm not saying anything bad about any race/religion in my topic,nor am I saying i'm Jewish/Christian/Nazi it's just discussion purpose)
     
  3. Unread #2 - Jun 5, 2007 at 1:32 AM
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    Hitler just needed a scapegoat, so he chose the jews. They didn't have an own country for centuries, they were hunted by many people, they were discriminated by many people. Everytime when something bad happened (e.g. the Black Death in Germany, the people blamed the jews that they would have poisened the wells and so on... There isn't even a prove that Jesus existed, and even if jews were the ones who "killed him", what do the ones of 1931-1945 have to do with them? Nobody deserves such a horrible thing like the holocaust. Hitler was crazy, don't forget that.

    /edit: By the way, in the Middle Ages, the Jews weren't allowed to work in a typical profession, e.g. craftsman, farmer etc.. The only thing their religion and the church/king then allowed them to do, was to lend money, so they invented the banking. That's why many of the Jews were rich people, and that's why the other people were angry and jealous of the Jews...
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    Yes, and i'd like to add.


    Germany was in an economical deprive after the first WW. Guess who saved their money during the war, Jewish people. In my english class when we studied the Holocaust, there was a quote on the wall

    "The Jew is a maggot, a filthy vermin, a pimp, a disgusting vile creature" - Adolf Hitler

    So, Hitler truely believed he was doing the right thing. It's so unhuman that maybe he was possesed by Jesus.
    And LOL, that sounds really chilidsh i know, but i'm just enjoying this conversation.
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    u wanna know why because in the bible it said that the jews would go through hard times for not following jesus and the holocause was that hard time read the bible some time...
     
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    The romans killed Jesus..not the jews ;)
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    I have another question to add to this.
    What is some Russian leader started an American genocide...
    Would that be right?


    In my opinion, of course not!
    The jews didn't deserve to die!
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    Slave, Elaborate please? I don't quite understand.


    And, don't tell me to read the bible, Be mature.

    And Romans didn't kill him.

    They were there, but it was 3 differant races.

    Jews, Romans, and i think the persians?

    I just know the Jews were involved :p
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    All i'm saying is the thousands that died did not do anything to deserve it...
     
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    Millions*

    And, i meant the Russian American thing?
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    No, God is not real and therefore had nothing to do with it. Hitler needed a scapegoat, and the Jews had money because they were misers. The end.
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    Do we have to bring atheism in here!
    Haha, only kidding.
    So dpunk, your saying that he didn't really hate jews?
    They just had the money?
     
  23. Unread #12 - Jun 5, 2007 at 2:36 AM
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    *sticks tongue out*

    Well I'm saying that from a political standpoint, his campaign had to have a scapegoat. If there wasn't anybody to hate, then he wouldn't have an enemy to fight against. Germany was in a depression, and Jews had money. People in Germany didn't like them because they hoarded money to themselves. Bingo, theres a scapegoat. As far as Hitler hating Jews, who knows.
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    dpunk is right for that matter.
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    Jesus forgave them on the cross. So any real Christian would say they didn't deserve it, obviously. But Christian extremists would be a different story.
    And I doubt God allowed them to die for any reason. I mean... Jews weren't any more wicked than anyone else and, in fact, are quite similar to Christians in faith.
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    the jews are gods people. and plus jesus is god in human form. AND he dies for our sins... ( it says in the bible about all that stuff ) i think that god has forgiven the jewish.
     
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    Yeah. But the way you look at it is so important, that it's not hard to have a convincing argument for either side.
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    I mean looking at it from a Christians prospective, Jesus did forgive them all on the cross.
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    Well, supposedly Jesus forgave everyone, even when he was dying:

    So that would suffice for me to believe he forgave the Jews. The Romans helped, and there weren't any dead Romans in the Holocaust that I know of.
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    They didn't deserve it, and for some odd reason people don't believe the holocaust happened.
     
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    Jews in holocaust, Did they deserve it?

    Yes, i thought it was unthoughtful, and undeserved, Hitler is evil. i mean, why jews? they havent done anything wrong to him so why should he kill them?
    even stupider trying to take over the world.
     
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