~Rap Is Not Crap!~

Rap isnt crap but i don't like it more then metal/rock

 

My opinion is that rap is a bad influance to youth, as their minds are still developing and still cant fully differentiate from the music and real life. Especially since most rap has lyrics that talk about shootin people and doin drugs and robbin things, etc, etc, etc. Kinda like those kids that blamed their shooting spree in California on Grand Theft Auto. If you cant seperate real life and music or video games then you shouldnt even be allowed to listen to music or play video games. Anyway thats my opinion so deal with it.

P.S. Rap is crap and thats that.

 

Lol Demon..you sig should say i jump on the bandwagon like everyone else cuz u only say rap is crap because that's what other people say but you can't give a true reason why you think rap is bad.. those kids blamed the killing spree on Grand Theft Auto because they could, and poeple listen to rap because they can, now i don't know what country you are from, but here in the united states, we can listen to whatever dam music we want, the kids obviously took advantage of saying that and honestly i would to if i could blame it on anyhting else besides my self, rap is real life buddy.. what about the real thugs in the world, na man your just gonna say lmao they just wanan be ghetto etc. na dude, honestly half these people are born with no other option and it's to hard for them to be like oh i'm gonna go to school get an education and maybe in the future i'll matter cause they won't. your telling us we can't listen to music or play video games? wow dude there's a million other bad influential things out there you don't complain about but rap, cmon dude you don't like rap because you think it gives a bad influence on young kids? Na man that's not you.. so your saying in this world of hate you care for other people man. wow that's great, but you only care for young people who don't like rap.

 

idk alot about rap but i do know that i classify half of those groups as R&B or Hip Hop. NOT RAP.

and im not too sure id admit to fergie being one of my favorite musicians

anyways thats just what this rocker thinks

 

Are you seriously shitting me? Are you seriously thinkg that Rap better then, well anything? Houston we have a problem!


Describing the (disenchanting) chanting of “Rap Music” as singing or as music is indeed (in either case) a capital misnomer. Real Music is the careful arrangement of organized sounds in the form of notes that then result in a smooth blend of rhythm, tone, and pitch that when united, is quite pleasing to the ear. Rap is not music. The unpleasant-sounding horror is chaotic dissonance and certainly not elegant consonance. Rap is veritable noise pollution that is tastelessly amplified from a cumbersome boom box. Generally speaking, unlike black soul music and traditional black rhythm and blues, Rap is both heartless and soulless. Standard love songs show respect and consideration for a member of the opposite gender but most contemporary Rap lyrics promote a hedonistic “me first” ghetto survival theme that is cruelly perpetuated upon its afflicted listening audience.


When Rap songs first appeared I believed that the clamorous nonsense would be another fad phenomenon that would gradually vanish like ‘70s disco music had slowly but surely lost its clout (along with our attendant intrigue and curiosity). But unfortunately the dunce-like Rap lyrics herald the worst elements of society and the brazen inflammatory words glamorize sex, drugs, random and deliberate violence’ and gang intimidation themes that through-and-through reek with sexism, racism and the glorification of the ghetto mentality.

In most Rap song themes the dysfunctional dregs of the inner city are elevated to hero status while the “entertainers” sound like disgruntled grunting angry contemporary cavemen’ who are advocating the downfall of “white America” with vitriolic words expressing rage, rebellion and social revolution. This expansion of the “easy-money anti-establishment ghetto mentality” is fueling resentment and hostility among “disenfranchised” inner city youth as well as contaminating the gullible and vulnerable minds of suburban teens. But the entire reprehensible in-progress-brainwashing technique that “Rap Music” demonstrably utilizes is both a sham and a canard that is trafficking affected teens down a treacherous One-Way-Street that leads only to a permanent lackluster socio-economic cul-de-sac. What a pathetic and ignoble social disaster!


In the ‘50s and early ‘60s black rhythm and blues imaginatively captured the hopes, the dreams, the ideals and the aspirations of both white and black teens as portrayed in the quality music of Chuck Berry and Fats Domino. Early black music was a unifying force in America. True, Little Richard’s music was a tad rebellious but it was not downright dirty, immoral or degrading like modern rap is. The early ‘50s black artists’ songs paralleled the dreams of both white and black America and the entire country was basically on the same musical wavelength.


And then this constructive and positive racial parallelism continued into the early ‘60s with the establishment of Detroit’s Motown where both black and white society shared a common interest in radio renditions of the ideal boyfriend, the ideal girlfriend, the ideal teen relationship and the music beneficially emphasized the stability that typical teenage romance provided. The Temptations, the Supremes, the Shirelles, the Marvelettes, Stevie Wonder, Lionel Richie, Mary Wells, Smokey Robinson, The Four Tops and Martha and the Vandellas all espoused “civilized relationships” between males and females and their songs genuinely advanced the perpetuation of commonalities in our great American culture.


Ironically white performers were very instrumental in contributing to the origins of “Rap Music.” Certainly Blondie’s Debbie Harry’s classic rendition of “Rapture” and the Beastie Boys’ amusing “Fight For the Right To Party” preceded the appearance of more radical rappers like Vanilla Ice and Eminem. And M.C. Hammer’s unique song “Can’t Touch This!” gave Rap a happy monicker and the lively tune showed both versatility and great potential for the development of new sounds in the recording industry. But then Run DMC, Public Enemy, Ludacris (Whatever happened to standard spelling?), 50 Cent (Whatever happened to the idea of plural usage in English grammar? I mean, I’ve heard of one cent!) and oh yes, Eminem and other rappers gradually emerged and began shouting and ranting words that featured intimidation, class conflict, hatred of authority (including police, parents and teachers), defiance, insolence, animosity, conflict and racial divisiveness.
“Rap Music” is both uninspiring and generally counterproductive to the “good of the order.” The scurrilous pox lionizes a mediocre ghetto existence as the epitome of human pursuit. “Rap Music” is essentially non-creative no matter how creative its performers think they are in writing it or in presenting it. And the rappers have the unmitigated audacity to describe themselves as “artists.” Well, Michelangelos, Leonardo Da Vincis, Picassos and Rembrandts most of those arrogant buffoons are not. And few rappers can actually sing a strong note like Elvis Presley, Johnny Mathis, Jay Black and Ray Charles could! Most rappers can just robotically shout, yell, holler, drivel, rant, slobber, prattle and babble in rubbish junkish mechanical non-poetic lyrics that lack imagination, inspiration and rhetorical quality. And the egocentric rappers’ amoral anthems are designed to corrupt American society and tear it down to the dangerous and literal “dog-eat-dog” human condition that realistically exists and flourishes in American slums.


Why isn’t “Rap Music” genuine music? Because Real Music possesses two authentic characteristics: it has grace and beauty, two marvelous components that “Rap” sadly lacks. Rap tunes usually are nothing more than one monotonous beat accompanied by certain anti-social mantras repeated over and over again. Real Music usually has singing associated with it but Rap only pretends to be music with relentless “in your face” threatening lyrics and assorted menacing hand and face gestures. Real Music has a variety of instruments while Rap is ordinarily arranged with only a hypnotic drumbeat and perhaps a guitar accompanied by some hyperactive dolt wildly scratching a record surface. Standard songs are generally arranged in a clever A-B-A verse pattern or rhythm format and most “Rap Music” just sounds like a flat tire riding and rumbling over a series of bumpy dirt roads. There are few chords (piano, guitar or otherwise) exhibited in “Rap Music” and the dictatorial didactical tone of voice that is exhibited (a substitute for real singing) is quite deficient in acceptable harmony and melody. In short, “Rap Music” is a one-dimensional medium and is devoid of both width and breadth. It is shallow and hollow linguistic jargonized anger-oriented ghetto garbage. “Rap Music” is analogous to looking at a rainbow having only one dull color.


High-profile black leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton should demonstrate the courage to condemn and denounce “Rap Music” that ostentatiously promotes negative and pessimistic views of American culture along with perpetuating anti-social attitudes. For the most part (with few exceptions) Rap is quite detrimental and deleterious, and the repugnant curse is the antithesis of all that is good for the betterment of America. “Rap Music” extols a subversive counter-culture that undermines all that is advantageous about the USA. It is an adverse divisive force that pits parents against their children, rich against poor and teens against authority. Certainly it doesn’t take much of a genius to concoct lyrics that come up with diabolical rhyming words for “ditch and witch” and for “duck and luck!”


Of course the self-indulgent rappers insist that they are fine examples teaching inner city kids the value of free enterprise and becoming successful junior entrepreneurs in a capitalistic economy by having the impressionable juveniles tailor their activities after their role-model mentors’. But the stark truth is that less than one percent of prospective rappers ever hit the jackpot with the remainder of aspirants finding a dismal crock of fools’ gold at the end of their rainbows. Like everything else from publishing to professional sports and from Wall Street to Main Street, only the top three percent of the participants wind-up making the big bucks while the remainder of the wannabes’ in any given profession founder and flounder in defeat and mediocrity.


The “Rap Music Industry” is no different than the rest of capitalistic America is in terms of its low percentage of success stories. Most of Rap’s juvenile adherents are doomed to mediocre futures with dead-end minimum wage jobs at best (if they don’t become criminals in the meantime) and if the kids actively espouse the ghetto lifestyle as indicated in rap song lyrics, then those youngsters are truly heading in the wrong direction that will guarantee them lives fraught with conflict with society, with adult authority and the with the law. There is no doubt in my mind that the Rap Record Industry exploits and corrupts both the consciences and the hearts of inner city and suburban kids that gravitate to “the sound” and addictively like listening to it.


“Rap Music” is both a divisive force and a toxic influence in American society. The pestilence praises the “ghetto mentality model” as a model worthy of imitation and the cultural epidemic (that the rampant social cancer is) has up-to-now generated little redeeming value. “Rap Music” mercilessly reduces mankind to a base biological existence and it insidiously subverts the spiritual and the intellectual aspects of human beings’ mental and emotional composition. If human life could be expressed as a mathematical division problem, then according to the rappers’ persistent messages, the lowest common denominators of all human relationships are sex, drugs, anger, contempt and rebellion. “Rap Music” connotes a disdain for self-sacrifice for others, it suggests (by omission) an aversion for social commitment and for community service, and it advances (by omission) a despising of individual responsibility and an apparent antipathy for standard accepted interpersonal morality and ethics.


In the final analysis “Rap Music” undermines basic human charity, human decency and human consideration for the rights and properties of others. In the overall “Rap Music” scenario, hate has replaced tolerance, self-gratification has replaced prudence, arrogance has replaced humility and hostility has replaced compassion. To add to the ongoing dilemma other benign abstractions also have been viciously assaulted. In the “Rap Music World” defiance has replaced respect, sex has replaced courtship, using others for personal gain has replaced basic courtesy and wanton rape has replaced teen romance.


“Rap Music” (in general) is definitely a harmful and dangerous factor to American civilization because the colossal scourge equates (in innocent adolescent minds) pervasive corruptive moral fallacies purporting that: adventure tragically equals thugs and drugs, that freedom is social anarchy, that love is the same thing as sex, that justice is a vigilante-oriented lifestyle, that truth can only be represented as deplorable ghetto misery, that honor is nothing more than revenge and last but not least, that Thomas Jefferson’s “Pursuit of happiness” is really only the pursuit of selfish pleasure. In conclusion, the flimflam known as “Rap Music” is not bona fide music because the blight is without grace, without beauty and without love, the fundamental truly joyous qualities that are vitally necessary in order to make life both satisfying and worthwhile in any given civilization.

 

wow this guy did his hw well im to lazy to read that so its bs to me -.-

 

Defeating yourself in the same sentence is not a good idea. Sentiment does not go hand in hand with sloth.

But then again, you can't avert the truth I posted up there.

 

why would you look all that crap up for some stupid arguement your like talking all smart and shit lol..

 

Rap is ok but i like rock and rap the same =/

 

sry my friend rap is crap

 

lmao like that emo devil hard metal shit isnt ffs

 

eh i like some rap

 

woot the pole is intense giving me goosebumps

 

Rap is the major category for hip hop, R&B, FreeStyle (which is what people believe rap to only be).

Just because someone listens to rap doesnt make them a wanna-be white gangster or something.

cstrike, you are a leecher so your new here. You probably dont know this but the people who go and look up stuff and post a thread that big will not get read (unless your sythe. but his fonts are cool!)

Ill put a cup of coffee on and read your reply, however, i can honestly say i dont expect anything from it.

 

because Cstrike is gay? and needs as much proof as he can get to proove that he doesn't like rap but we don't care if he does or not.. i mean you posted shit that has nothing to do with it, you can't go look up is rap crap because no one has ever prooved if it's crap or not only if they believe if it's music and all that shit ? you juts post is almost as meaningless as this line right here
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actually cstrike's arguments was very well thought and incredibly true. If you morons actually took your time to read through it, he states that the old "disco" rap was fine, because it wasn't agressive and degrading like today's shit is.

cstrike, i have a feeling you and i will get along just fine

"Emo Devil Hard Metal shit"? First, Emo is a category of it's own and is NOT affiliated with the Devil in any way at all. Second, there's only a few categories in metal that actually consists in satanists. If you would read my "Ultimate Metal Thread" you would clearly see how dumb that post was.

 

so i guess rap is gay and rock is the best music out their to huh? ya so everyone should listen to rock,metal all that gay shit because people dont like rap well listen buddy ALOT of people in the whole world h8 rock/metal etc.

 

that wasn't my point at all. I don't care what you like, but do NOT criticize and generalize a music genre before you have looked into it, and know the facts.

 

i may not know all the facts but what people have posted before me ^ have been criticizing rap just because they dont like it so im going to do the same thing ( this is a debate so we are arguing but i dont h8 you lol)

 

well, i myself know most facts about it, but i don't criticize rap without a reason. I have a reason, and i've already stated it, so why continue this argument? Personally i think this is just spamming up this thread, since the main point of it was for people who like rap to share their artists.

And i am aware this is just a debate If you were offended by anything i wrote, please state why and what offended you.