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  1. Unread #81 - Jun 28, 2016 at 1:29 PM
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  3. Unread #82 - Jun 28, 2016 at 2:13 PM
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    Rewarding surprisingly after Thursday, just how we get treated outside of the uk. The EU's attitude towards Britain voting leave is just another example of the respect we get from the so called big players. All jumping to the worst possible scenario because butt hurt members of the EU now know what the majority of the UK feel. Bring on other countries referendums and see the future of a failing EU. Don't get narrow minded, remember 17m people wanted out. No need for the racism act of attitude towards all of us.
     
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    I voted out, and here is why..



    Everyone should watch this
     
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    It amuses me how people still believe that we can fix bureaucracy by adding another layer of EU bureaucracy. Just pure lulz.

    I'll admit it, EU needs the UK, the UK doesn't need the EU. My home country, Estonia, needs the EU and needs the UK in it, but the simple fact that you can bribe small countries to outvote UK (or any other country) should be enough of a reason for the UK to get out. It's very cheap to buy the smaller countries votes. Does anyone really believe that the EU is trying to help the smaller EU states? It's such an obvious bribe that it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. It sort of sucks for my country that the UK is getting out, but I am happy for the brits.
     
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    I believe it will benefit us eventually, the first few years will be a struggle though!
     
  13. Unread #87 - Jun 30, 2016 at 2:23 PM
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    @Kiro - You can skip to 53:00 to see exactly how you are wrong about Switzerland.
     
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  15. Unread #88 - Jun 30, 2016 at 9:52 PM
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    You're not telling me "how" they can provide a better service.

    So there is no prohibition.

    Your words:


    There are no trade barriers. How is that not getting through your head?

    Wrong in what way?
     
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    Read the quote I pulled from your source, stop being in denial. You should vet your sources instead of Googling propaganda.

    False again, imported goods still must comply with EU regulations.

    You said the UK thrives off of the EU, the video shows how the UK is damaged by the EU and how Switzerland thrives from NOT being in the EU.

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    Here's just a sample of these regulations

    EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

     
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    Explain to me how that quote relates to trade barriers being active? The source literally says, one of the benefits of the EU is lack of trade barriers (was abolished decades ago). Can you provide a source that says otherwise?

    Do you understand what "no choice" means?

    False equivalence. Switzerland was never part of the EU, so comparing a country that never was within the EU to a country leaving the EU to show that it's possible to have the same economic prosperity is inconsistent and illogical.

    Switzerland is one of the 4 member states that have trade relations with the EU. To say there is no prosperity with trade in the EU is false.

    The argument that they can just join the EFTA like Switzerland and Norway and still not contribute to the budget is also a dream.

     
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    Here is the quote from your source:

    Subsidies and enforced regulations are trade barriers.

    Fine, they can choose to buy off the black market illegally. Thanks for the solid contribution.

    Moving the goalposts. When will you ever prove your original claim that the UK thrives off the EU? I've proven how the Swiss thrive without the EU, hold up your end of the deal.

    ...I already told you this when you claimed that the UK thrived off the EU because they trade primarily with EU countries, then I proved that Switzerland also trades primarily with EU countries.
     
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    Non-tariff barriers.

    Find? I'm going to assume you meant "fine". You contradicted yourself there by backpedaling.

    Again, using words you don't know how to use correctly. It thrives off the EU through trade, I've explained how in the last two pages. Switzerland does thrive off the EU as well. Look at both the Uk and Switzerland and tell me who are their largest trading partners.

    Let me introduce to you... The EU single market.

     
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  25. Unread #93 - Jun 30, 2016 at 11:38 PM
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    I know. That's why I said "subsidies and regulations", not "tarriffs"

    We've already been here, so I'll use just quote where I proved you wrong last time:

     
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    No, you're confused. Non-tariff barriers was a response to subsidies. These barriers don't restrict trade. "Regulations" isn't a barrier. Free trade would imply there are no restrictive barriers.

    If that's the case, then why do countries like Switzerland and Norway have trade relations with the EU?
     
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  29. Unread #95 - Jul 1, 2016 at 12:11 AM
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    Regulations are a barrier. You can't lie your way out of this one.

    Take away the collective terms to be clear:

    -Why do Swiss businesses have trade relations with businesses in EU countries-
     
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    Different types of trade barriers

    That was a question for you to answer, just to be clear.
     
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    ? This isn't an argument.

    People/businesses trade with each other to generate wealth. Note that there is no "Switzerland" trading with "EU", businesses in Switzerland trade with businesses in EU countries, as they have since BEFORE there was an EU.
     
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    Where do you see "regulations" under the different types of trade barriers?

    Switzerland can trade with the countries in the EU directly, like you said.
     
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    Are you implying that that is an all-inclusive list of trade barriers and that in order for regulations to be trade barriers they must be on that list?

    I already said you aren't going to lie your way out of this one.

    Trade regulations are trade barriers.

    Yes they can, like they have since before there was an EU.
     
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    Regulation - a rule or directive made and maintained by an authority

    Under what circumstance, using the guide (link I provided) would that fall under a "trade barrier". You're free to use sources, although that's rare from you, you like to make things up along the way.

    Then why haven't they done that? Surely you can't prosper off the EU.
     
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