Basement undetectable Scam - Proof of lying- 115m 07 Loss

So basically I really hate that it has come to this, and I hate even more to waste so much time on writing a scam report. But sometimes, when people are incredibly DIRTY and you see them living among us, getting the chance to nail their poker face and expose them is priceless! Especially when you turn out to be one of their helpless victims...

Here it goes:

Scammer's profile link: http://www.sythe.org/members/basement.448620/
Explanation of the trade: So basically Basement took advantage of the fact that I have minor experience in name sales and snipes, he abused this and decided too snipe the name himself knowing there is no way anyone can relate this to him. thinking he is safe as well.
How they scammed: Basement logged into his account (Holding Lyfe) through a VPS, stood next to me, then sniped the name himself at countdown on his main computer, then saying that the name was sniped and he was unable to take it on account (Holding Lyfe) "I doubt he wanted to lose the name (Holding Lyfe) anyways since it was the account holding his bank and the name was relevant, other name traders would agree with me on this"
I was able to prove that he lied to me, and said his account (Holding Lyfe) was used from his original computer, while in reality, he used a VPS while transferring the name, thus clarifying and exposing his dirty intentions from the very start.

Sythe PM picture: http://i.imgur.com/XwCO68c.png
Skype profile ID & conversation pictures: http://imgur.com/coY70Iq
Other relevant trade screenshots: Ok please look below.
Item Scammed: W*4 RSN
So first of all, this name belonged to an account that is owned by a friend of mine, he asked me to find a seller as he stopped playing RS. This name has been on his account for over 2 years, he has not logged into his runescape account for over 80 days as well. The account has JAG account guardian.
After finding basement and agreeing on the name price, I was 2 days delayed because he was unable to remember his PIN, ofcourse this was resolved and we went back to the deal.
initially Basement was a real prick with me and I immediately recognized him as a *Dirty individual with no conscious* especially during price discussion,foolishly his personality expose was not sufficient to trigger any scam alarms because his sythe profile completely disguises him. Please check below :


Check this !!! i thought he was joking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



3 hours later, when he decides that this name is valuable, or probably when he had the scam theme planted in his mind:



After confirming the deal, this is his gurantee that snipes will not happen, obviously it was a fake gurantee, note that this was a different cheaper name, he had no intentions on sniping it since it was cheap, notice how EXTREMELY SURE HE IS THAT SNIPE WILL NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE HE WAS READY TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR IT, AND NOT SCAM IT:





Now Please find the below screenshots of the whole conversation, within the process of transferring the name:

Giving me a guide on how to do the transfer, if you notice when i say the chances are less than 1%, he responds with *Very Low*. Psychology experts can understand that this means he refuses the 1%, but agrees to a low percentage since in his mind, he knew what was going to happen. He was less confirming than the previous discussion i posted above, possibly because the whole scame scheme is already set up!! I know this is not enough proof, keep following though:




Changing name for the first time @ 8:47 PM:


changing the name for the 2nd time @ 8:51 PM


Change successfully done at 8:51, 4 minutes total


at 8:52, basement say it was sniped.



Now please notice this picture, this shows he was upset I kept the thread open, and probably wanted to teach me a lesson... thats what u had in your dirty little mind in that moment, didnt you cunt? convincing yourself that i deserved it because I was looking for an outbidder!


Ofcourse, he takes a very late screeny of the name being sniped. While real name traders, are experienced enough to know that the moment a name gets sniped, THEY SHOULD TAKE INSTANT SCREENSHOT to remove any suspicions against them. Thats where he exposes himself, the first screenshot he sends prove he was using a VPS. I will show you later:



The screenshot he sent me : Please check the desktop background

http://puu.sh/pzE7I.jpg


Here, he is acting stupid, saying he cant try to take it in 2 accounts at once... From your posts, I know you are smarter and U know you can do that from a VPS, which is EXACTLY what you did.


Now here is where I offer him to pay only 50m, baiting him into approving as a proof of admitting guilty, He had a good 10 minutes time thinking about it !! after exposing that his skype convo scrolldown was hidden, he was a bit worried. But I guess 10 minutes thinking, he realized if he approves he will be in trouble.



He knows I can never prove he sniped it, unless he admits it... he knows his game VERY WELL. It was like telling me to drop it and give up on this name, and telling me in hidden messages that he fucked me up and there is nothing I can do... he wont admit!



Here is an old other thread that proves he knows what hes doing:



This is his second mistake, saying that we have different time zones while obviously the time zone is different, which proves he is using a VPS. please notice carefully time. RS time as well


Discussing name recovery to see how far he is willing to help me recover the account, to measure the percentage of him being the scammer. I LOL'd AT THIS!



This is where he did his biggest mistake... This is where he decides to prove that he WAS NOT USING A VPS, while the exact opposite was proven.


This is the screenshot he sent me, please check both screenshots. First one was when the name was sniped, second one to prove he uses his main computer. Look at the background, two different desktops. THANK YOU FOR THIS PROOF IDIOT.

Initial screeny at name snipe moment, when he was inside (Holding Lyfe) from a VPS instead of his original computer:
http://puu.sh/pzE7I.jpg (his link)


His second screeny wanting to prove that he used his account on his own computer again look at the background and compare, what a HUGE CHANGE in such a short time span, did you format in 5 minutes or something? Also, this time he has no problem to show the time and skype scroll down menu, while in the previous picture, he disgustingly hides the skype's scroll down curser behind the runescape client to show that he took the screenshot instantly, and not show that the skype conversation is already beyond this point....

http://puu.sh/pzGHH.jpg (his link)







Here is where I tell him that he never mentioned the bonds he lost, am pretty sure if this deal did not benefit him he would mention the bonds, but it was such a GOOD DEAL feeling that he barely remembered the bonds he paid. While some time ago, he was WILLING TO OPEN A SCAM REPORT FOR 1 BOND!!! IRONIC ISNT IT?



Here is the photo album:
http://imgur.com/a/leiPN


I hope this report is looked at carefully, knowing this user in sythe, he will be backed up. But digging his history will show nothing but a scammer and a dirty individual, just like his initial vouches when he started, all people who vouched him are banned. He is an expert in deceiving, but obviously his sythe experience DID NOT START on his join date.
This is another topic, but just another proof that this user is hazardous and WILL NOT HESTITATE to scam when he thinks its safe. I have included plenty of hints to show his real intentions, and finalized it with the proof that he actually LIED to me about VPS, which is sufficient to proof that he in fact, was the one who sniped this name within those 4 minutes.

Looking forward with full trust and confidence that sythe admins will interpret what truly happened, and that you will do the needful to remove people like him from sythe, because he is more dangerous than the normal unexperienced scammers.

Thank you in advance,
RLdiamond

 

Also, this is not a killer proof however it does show that the sniper did not want to share his skype. Obviously he didn't want to sell me the name, but he knew exactly who I was, and obviously the way he talks is quite similar to Basement. While waiting for him to give me skype, he just logged out and ran away... Ofcourse he wasnt going to give me any skype....

If he was a real sniper, he should be experienced with names and Would have a name selling experience, which comes alongside with a skype for selling. Wierd he wanted to sell the name, but not interested in GIVING ME his skype?

 

Hey, got a Skype message about this and thought I'd put together some form of response.

RLdiamond and I agreed on the sale of the name "w54" for 115m 07, and I'd pay for all the bonds.
I gave him a bond and when he said he couldn't log into RS3 I thought I'd been played for a bond.
No biggy it's like 3m but I did want the rsn so I said I'd write a scam report if he didn't get back to me. But he did, so it was fine.

He delayed for multiple days claiming "I forgot my JAG questions, omg what's my bank pin" etc.. Seemed a little suspicious but I let it slide. Bear in mind that during this time, his thread regarding the name sale was still on public view, and he stated that IT WAS BEING SOLD. I'm going to assume snipers stalk the name sales section, so this was probably a jackpot find for them.

When we got down to do the transfer, RLdiamond messed around after the first name change for around ~4-5 minutes claiming he already changed his name
https://gyazo.com/a3c5a77ce71c170379a5c13a112c798d
https://gyazo.com/231c9b8fd3dbc660506e052458c47e7f
https://gyazo.com/d9e692f8fd1f7cbf77382125f739e414
Now, I know chat logs cannot be used as proof but I'll copy paste the timings of the messages around the second transfer

[6/20/2016 6:51:22 PM] - 'Basement - Sythe: but you need to change your name a second time
[6/20/2016 6:51:31 PM] - 'Basement - Sythe: quickly before someone notices lol
[6/20/2016 6:51:32 PM] Rani Salhab: ok
[6/20/2016 6:51:34 PM] Rani Salhab: 5
[6/20/2016 6:51:34 PM] Rani Salhab: 4
[6/20/2016 6:51:35 PM] Rani Salhab: 3
[6/20/2016 6:51:35 PM] Rani Salhab: 2
[6/20/2016 6:51:36 PM] Rani Salhab: 1
[6/20/2016 6:51:48 PM] Rani Salhab: done
[6/20/2016 6:51:55 PM] Rani Salhab: Your name has been changed successfully. There may be a delay of up to 15 minutes before this appears across all our systems.
Your character name is: ripW54

You can change your name again on 14-Jul-2016 18:47.
[6/20/2016 6:52:02 PM] - 'Basement - Sythe: was sniped
[6/20/2016 6:52:11 PM] - 'Basement - Sythe: ffs

That wasn't exactly a steady countdown from 5 to give me a relatively good estimate of when the name would be free.
Now I can either go down two routes here given this information - he was taking the name himself hoping that I'd give him some compensation ( despite listing on my thread that I only pay when I have the name and I'm not responsible for it). I highly doubt this given his inexperience and having to explain how to use bonds on RS3 - however it's possible given he has a TWC ( I don't know why and I didn't ask why).
The much simpler explanation and the one I believe to be the case is it was simply sniped from us.
1: His thread was left public stating the name was going to be sold ( https://gyazo.com/0fbbe27c42f6c8abecad260d886398cc )
2: He waited 4-5 mins after the first name change before doing the second one - plenty of time for a sniper to notice
3: Less than ideal countdown for me to take it

Anyways, those are my thoughts on the situation. If anyone has any questions I'll happily answer just shoot me a PM or add my Skype basement.rs

 

Are you aware that you neglected plenty of bullet points mentioned above and grabbed on the stupidest and least effective excuse of ME NOT HAVING A STEADY COUNTDOWN?!?!?
then you paste our convo to show the time of the messages, it is all also visible on the skype pictures i posted above.

Why would you stray off the main big points, such as using your account through VPS, and lying about it?

I am glad you replied and attempted to defend yourself, even makes it better when you mention I am taking the name for myself hoping I would get some compensation lol.

And regarding my TWC it was never related to anything close to lying,deceiving or scamming, unlike your actions My name is well known in many areas and many forums and many gambling sections such as tokenbets and BBB where this 100m we are fighting for is my play money. you can check for yourself.

I just completely deprecate abusive wicked and filthy actions such as the one you pulled off, it clarifies what kind of a pokerface you are holding and as a poker player I simply caught your bluff, i do that daily. I am sure you have plenty of victims but karma is a bitch and I was your karma to remove that mask and expose your filthy actions. If i am allowed I will refuse your refund as well and settle with your ban and prevent some stupid kids to fall for your fake legit profile.

Thank you again for making this easier with your reply.

 

Let's not get into who is more well known than who because that's childish honestly I don't care lol.

I don't even understand what use a VPS would have in me being able to take the name? Not to mention I showed you myself logged into my account from my desktop, so I don't really know what you're going for here. Must everyone have a background on their computer?

Please just stop clutching at straws that aren't even there. If you have something valid to say please post it.

 

Good Fight! Help me bump this so the whole cyber web reads it.

 

Given this immature response I will assume you have nothing left to say so I'll probably not reply unless a mod wishes to speak to me.

 

This is the names market. I'm not sure how many people he told, but you cannot prove that he sniped the name. there is always a risk when undergoing a name transfer

 

We are all aware of that minor risk this is why hundreds and thousands of MMO gamers come to sythe for their deals, because Sythe admins are popular with their strength in preventing and DETECTING scam attempts.

I have clearly shown every aspect of this scenario, and if you put the strings together and if you are not already asiding with someone, the whole situation is crystal clear. Moreover, in any court room in the world once someone is caught lying, his testimony is completely unreliable...why would he lie about the VPS part? and even ignore it...regardless of the other points I mentioned above, So please Dunworry, don't give basement additional motivation in the names industry.
I kindly request you to be extremely fair in this. This is my final request from me, to you. ok?

 

I've reviewed it all. Everything you have provided thus far is circumstantial, or misguided commentary. While it is possible he sniped the name, it's impossible to prove pretty much. It's quite unfortunate; however, this is the risk of the names market. It's impossible to prove he sniped the name with the evidence you have provided; anyone who had been told the name (which is not limited to the people told directly by the seller) could have stuck an autoclicker on it for themselves. It sucks, but there is not enough proof here.

 

http://puu.sh/pzE7I.jpg - this screenshot has the same background as his desktop; look carefully and you'll see icons behind the Skype. http://puu.sh/pzGHH.jpg Look closer, and you'll see "june 2016 list" matches the top right icon of the desktop. It's the same.