GunIsGod Name/Account Sale

I purchased a rare name off GunIsGod strictly for the name. Here's the thread which has been edited.

http://www.sythe.org/threads/selling-rare-2-letter-rsn.2035927/

We used Chloe as a MM and the trade went through successfully.
However, I was buying the name and got the account handed to me with the name.
Originally Gun had posted the name was bound to the account, but he got it unbound.
Upon receiving the account, I spent around 100m in Rs3 bonds for name changes only
to find out that the name was still bound. He offered to send a message to Jagex on my
behalf which I allowed him to. This morning I woke up and when trying to log onto the
account realized it had been locked. The name is still on the account. The only way I know
for sure to prove this is if you can see the stats he listed on the account before he
removed them and look up the name in the highscores. Regardless, this whole thing
has not worked out from the start and I want a refund. The name didn't get sniped
and now the account it's on, which is the account he sold me to transfer the name from
is locked.

Chloe releasing the account to me
http://imgur.com/Z7gDHJ8

My Skype conversation with Gun
http://imgur.com/Q4hrgH7
http://imgur.com/0OtKRqv
http://imgur.com/DLkxt07
http://imgur.com/4Ex1c8r

Account locked
https://gyazo.com/f745d309d51676f4b830d376163b10c1

EDIT

I originally thought the name was sniped when I tried to transfer it.
Then it let me change the name back to it's original; The account it's
bound to. Just want to eliminate that confusion. Gun admits to having
the same problem himself. This account, even if recovered is useless to
me. I wanted the name which is clearly still bound along with the account
getting locked in less than 12 hours.

http://imgur.com/0HGRtZc

Any forum mod that needs to know the name to see it's on the account he
sold me, please contact me. I know better to post the name here, even with
it being bound doesn't really matter.

 

I will reply to this in full around 10 pm est tonight. At work, only phone access and no ability to post screenies.

 

However much money you can prove you spent on bonds will need to be refunded to you by Gun. You are also entitled to a refund for the account purchase price

 

Gun messaged me and said it'll be around another hour before he'll be able to get on and post.

He wanted to make sure everything was updated and current so there would be no animosity and clarity was provided.

 

Hola mi amigos. Prepping something now and talking to Dunsworth.

 

It was made entirely clear that the name was bound before, and un-bound about a week ago. I have no problem going to the end of the Earth to get it unbound yet again to get him the name. The name was 100% made available and able to be moved at the time of sale. His claims that I posted the advertisement without mentioning it was bound is bullshit. I originally listed it as a 100% bound account, and edited it once I had it released. It was made entirely clear he would get the whole account, and should he wish to transfer on his own accord he could do so.

You can reference @Glare and this picture (https://gyazo.com/08cbc2bc69a9b2b5e654291cd1bb48cf) for proof of the name being unbound.

Him telling me he will take the account as an ENTITY, not just having me xfer the name. I listed how , should he choose, he can get the acc banned after xfer etc. He chooses to say he wants to keep the whole account: https://gyazo.com/586e800f189bdc3658b784c1c9a36e42

Only portion where he actually lists his interest in the name, placement not specified:


https://gyazo.com/59d3821e669e8b7b02b89897e601454e

More of convo and his agreement with the terms listed:


https://gyazo.com/d37c5cabe42be6f336a15e5f693ab51b


Him confirming he read the message from Jagex stating the name was currently NOT BOUND, ALSO HIS AGREEANCE THAT I WOULD HELP FIX THE PROBLEM.:


https://gyazo.com/fe34b5f4138501510c80d45a19b85be5

Let me know what other relevant screenshots are needed. Simply said, the name was 100% RFT upon purchase. Something on his end or during the xfer from Chloe to him caused it to be re-bound. Like I said, I am MORE than happy to assist in getting it unbound yet again, xferring it and letting there be a happy ending, but with all of the instances and knowledge of the toxicity of the name and the account he still agreed to move forward with everything and even denied having someone xfer and ban the account for him. Let me know what else you need.


If the wording on skype isn't prevalent, he also posted it as an acc+name purchase if we are going bare bones and by definition.


https://gyazo.com/aec143f71dbe1f58971fd1c5910cb815

Please note that when he said it was sniped, he just said "oh well", so it obviously wasn't a big deal. Now since he thinks he can get money back out of it he is all upset.

 

Yeah, so that negates everything you said about me "claiming you never stated it was previously bound."

Simple facts.

The name is still bound, which is not what I purchased.

The name is still attached to the account after I spent x amount on bonds trying to tranfer.

The account is locked.

I tried to change the name immediately and was unsuccessful as the name was clearly still bound. That is not my fault and is ignorant to say it is. The account became locked within less than 12 hours of you sending Jagex a reply.

Simply put, I want a refund. Don't try to post screenshots making it seem like I'm an idiot. You know the situation and still have yet to reply to me on Skype. You can "go to the end of the Earth to get it unbound". Once that is successful, then re-sell the name. As of now, you sold me something I didn't purchase and have absolutely nothing. A locked account with a bound name.

This was posted in the NAME SALES market. You know the name was the sole intent of my purchase. Please quit trying to dance around the fact and just refund me. Thanks.

http://imgur.com/K5F0how

 

You can preach technicalities all you want. It was a straight line trade. Something YOU did on your end got the account re-banned. You can feel free to contact me in private and I will assist in fixing this; in regards of getting it unbound. You already agreed to this on skype! I don't understand what you're whining about now. Even after the fact you agreed to me just submitting support emails and getting it fixed for you. This is a very easy decision on Mods part... You can demand what you want, but the fact is even AFTER anything else is considered you still agreed to me simply assisting you in fixing the account itself.


Let them discuss it and stop digging holes and burning bridges.

 

I'm stating facts. I agreed to you sending them a message to get the name unbound. That got the account locked. I'm not "demanding" anything. I'm requesting a refund as I believe I'm entitled to it. I'm not going to argue with you about it. You haven't even said anything about even being able to recover the account.

"Something I did?" You mean that I logged in from a different IP? That's all I did.
If this is a very easy decision on Mods part, then no need to reply further. I believe all the necessary information is out there. You sold me a name which was unsuccessful in my trying to transfer. I agreed to you sending Jagex an email and that's it. The account got locked. This is clearly not a simple fix and a refund is the easiest solution.

Please come to an appropriate decison @Dunworry @Shin

 

You're not understanding that you already agreed to the alternate outcome. Simply having buyer's regret isn't on my shoulders, you are arguing against yourself rather than reaching out to me and trying to get the account back in good standing. I'm willing to accompany any help that you may need from me, exploit that rather than change your mind repeatedly.

Just wait it out, they both went to bed.

 

I'll wait for their response. You should have already tried to recover the account as that's on your hands. This is honestly my last reply until the mods say something. Clearly you have a way with words in which you think you can manipulate anyone in any situation. The facts are simple. You sold me the name. I couldn't transfer. You trying to get the name unbound got the account locked. All of this was stated in my original post. You haven't added any additional "evidence" other than your own opinions.

"Speak like an addict and they listen" Such a wordsmith...

http://imgur.com/Xp7DXg3

 

As it stands, the name was sold under the presumption that it could be transferred. The name is now bound again and not able to be transferred, exhibited by Feels' attempt to do so. My decision above still stands: he purchased a name that he wanted to be able to transfer, and then have an account he could use for whatever reason that may be. As he states "its the name I want" as well as him asking the question "how did you get it unbound". That shows that although he was buying the account, he was buying it for the name, and for the ability to transfer it.

If this answer is unsatisfactory to you Gun, you're free to involve other mods for their opinion; however, in the mean time, please do work of submitting an appeal to rectify the current situation.

 

And it could be transferred, I'm not understanding the issue here. He fucked something up on his end, was flagged, or something that forced it into being bound yet again. Already shot the original owner a message, once he is available (Active military to my understanding) he will unlock it and I'll yet again get the name unbound. Again, I yet again say WHEN IT WAS TRANSFERRED TO HIS OWNERSHIP IT WAS NOT BOUND.

 

On 10 June 2016 Gun sent me an email with a screenie of jagex unbinding account.

I then went to check if it was bound in the "Create Account" area to help him confirm. The name was at that time unbound like the jmod had stated.

Would just like to say that the name was Re-Bound due to the fact a ticket was just sent in and a different IP tryed to move the name not a week later ( gun should have moved the name off as he ticketed jagex )

Just adding this for more information on the situation

 

I did absolutely nothing wrong on my end. I purchased the name under the terms it was unbound and ready to be transferred. When I attempted to do so (I feel myself repeating the same thing) I could not and it only led to the account being locked. I did not purchase an account under the pretenses that I might be able to change the name, or that I'd have to wait x amount of time before doing so. As it stands, I did not receive what I ordered and do not want to wait or risk any more trouble with this so I want a refund.

With this said, I cannot be held responsible. Gun may have not known this would be the case, but that should not fall back onto me. With the name being re-bound and the account being locked, I do not have anything of what I purchased. I'm at a loss of nearly 100m in rs3 bonds, not including the price of the name / account.

I did not agree to the name getting bound risk in this situation. This is where I will leave it up to the Mods to determine if I am entitled a refund. I'll even take a loss on the bonds I purchased. If I am entitled to a refund, I will not accept any deals / offers Gun may have in response.

Thanks again.

@Dunworry

 

From what I can see, this was a trade for an account + name. When people generally purchase names, they run a risk for the name to be sniped and work out terms on what might occur as a result. Most times if a name gets sniped, the person selling the name will still be paid in full with the name being lost. Fortunately in this case, the name exists on an account which can be accessed and used by the OP as desired.

For this case, the account name was unbound and appears to have been rebound as a result of trying to transfer it immediately. Gun warned not to do this in a message on Skype, but FeelsSadMan seems to have tried anyways... which resulted in the account being locked and name rebound.

As a result and terms agreed upon, I feel the best way for a resolution is for Gun to have the account unlocked, name unbound, and transfer assisted with. I'm failing to see where Gun had done anything wrong as everything was made clear and warnings were given, with alternatives provided as well, but ultimately ignored.

 

Gun did not warn me of this.

 

Guess it was after you had already done it and he was confused as to why you tried to do it immediately.
http://imgur.com/0HGRtZc

 

Yes, the only terms stated were I run the risk of the name being sniped. I was buying an unbound name, which became bound and the account became locked. As Dunworry stated, I purchased the account with intent to transfer the name and for whatever reason was unable to. It is now rebound and locked. With this risk involved, it's not worth it to me. Since the terms were clear the name was able to successfully be transferred, and wasn't; I didn't receive what I paid for. It's not "buyer's remorse if I didn't receive it. I shouldn't have to wait and tend to his convenience due to the fact he never warned me or stated these terms. Here is the entire conversation.

http://imgur.com/a/g7gI8

 

Ah... I knew I saw that warning somewhere... He did say it...

There were a lot of screenshots to look through though. Terms were listed there as well...

"Yeah, like if you logged into the acc and instantly xferred it, there's a chance they could see that as "Hijacker changed my name""
http://i.imgur.com/qSXHK0P.jpg