2016-2017 NFL Discussion Thread

Shit forgot about Buster bc he's best in the slot. Honestly when we drafted Dee and they immediately started listing all of his injuries, I was just like what the fuck are we doing hello!? Also drafted Burris. Don't know much about him, lotta "experts" like the pick though. lol

 

Jets are a mess dude won't be a while till we get good but I hope they prove me wrong and win the division somehow. We had the easiest schedule last season and couldn't even make the wildcard smh

 

Our schedule this year is ridiculously hard lol. But I got faith in 7God. Division is ours for the taking. Fins will never be a threat - too many holes on o and d. Bills owned us last year, but dont feel like they'll come close to winning the division.

 

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How do you two propose you'll beat out the Patriots for the division? Last time the Jets won was in 2002 and since then the Patriots only lost the division once in 2008 when Brady went down where they still went 11-5

 

Well he is suspended so...

 

For the time being, chances of an en banc are looking fairly good with the several amicus curiae briefs filed in support of Brady.

Nevertheless even if he doesn't see the field for the first 4 games then this is the schedule:
Mon, 12 Sep @ Cardinals
Mon, 19 Sep vs Dolphins
Fri, 23 Sep vs Texans
Mon, 3 Oct vs Bills

Winning 2-3 of these games with the back up QB certainly isn't out of the realm of possibilities especially with 3 of these being at home. It'll take more than that for the division to fall out of the Patriots grasp.

 

If the suspension does hold up Jimmy is not a good QB, could easily drop to 0-4 especially since Pats best receivers are injury prone: Gronk, Edelman, Danny. Cards will run through the Pats, Fins honestly just signed a hell of a coach. All four of those teams have great defenses, 0-4 is a HUGE possibility. As for the Jets taking the division, we took a game from the Pats last year with less talent, could easily do that again. Everyone shits on Geno but he is a really talented QB with a nice arm, Rex Ryan is known as a QB killer. So in a spread, which Gailey runs, we could easily have a top pass O. Marshall, Decker, Quincy/Smith + Forte. Patriots do run a great system, but in 08 Cassel was surrounded with: A GREAT defense and Moss and Welker. Jimmy or whoever they decide to start doesnt have shit compared to the 08 Pats. Jets had a top defense last year and it only got better with, Lee/Jenkins via draft and Jarvis Jenkis and McLendon via FA. David Harris is ageless, Erin Henderson is a dog, both our safeties are proven starters(future pro bowlers). Revis is gonna come back healthy. And then on O, Forte, Powell and Khiry can easily lead another top rushing offense. We have the pieces/talent to take the division.

 

Pretty sure the jury is still out on Jimmy G considering he's only had the opportunity to throw 31 passes over 2 years, all during garbage time. Yeah Rex definitely is a QB killer meanwhile his QB Tyrod Taylor has set some of the highest franchise QBR in a long time. There's much more to the Patriots than simply Gronk, Edelman and Amendola. If you've forgotten we acquired Martellus Bennett too plus one of Chris Hogan, Malcolm Mitchell or someone else will no doubt contribute noticeably. Revis is dropping off too with father age catching up to him. He's still an impeccable corner with his intangibles but he was getting beaten more than usual last year due to his speed declining. There's a lot that can be addressed but basically if the 2015 Patriots were healthy they were easily the best team in the league. Even with a sieve of an OL plus several key contributors on both offense and defense injured, we literally lost by 2 points in the AFCCG. Majority of that team is returning, I don't see how you can even attempt to qualify the Jets being better at this point in time. They are trending upwards under their new leadership however.

 

Yet the Bills don't want Rex or Taylor. Seen him in garbage time and pre season, probably why y'all pulled the trigger so early on Brissett. As for Revis declining, he's still a shut down corner, he's also never relied on speed he's a physical press cornerback, you had him a year, you should know that. "Darrelle Revis recorded the NFL's lowest completion percentage allowed (46.5%) in 2015 for passes into his coverage." Gronk and Edelman are HUGE parts of the offense, even with Edelman's inconsistency . Gronk is easily the best tight end in football. Honestly forgot about Bennett, great pick up. Don't care to much about Hogan, do see him getting plenty of playing time though, unless he ends up like another Austin Collie for y'all. "Speedy cornerbacks sat on his routes and showed little respect for his long speed. Can be knocked off schedule by physical cornerbacks." Speed runs the NFL now, doesn't sound too good. Jets are easily a 1000x better than last year. All you gotta do is look at the transactions and draft picks. I explained how they're better. If we had a better coach, instead of Bowles, would be even better. I got faith in 7God and my Jets. I got to man, lol. Especially after last year. Just keep Fitztragic away from my team.

 

Brissett was picked up due to Jimmy's contract potentially ending before Brady is done being Brady. QB is the most valuable position on a team and Belichick knows this therefore has repeatedly attempted to draft a QB for the future with our current QBs window coming to a close. Anyways I guess we'll see how the season comes out and then we'll look at which of us was right I guess ha.

 

Extremely weak QB class. 1 and 2 overall are not 1 and 2 overall players. Yeah, you got one of the greatest coaches of all time, minus the cheating. I'm be in this shit week 1 talking about that W over the Bengals.. I said hopefully..

 

Spygate was literally over filming angles (filming was allowed just not in that location) which is actually something that the Jets themselves were guilty of a year earlier http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3151217 despite no fuss being kicked up over it. As for deflategate the whole thing is a farce and the only proof that exists is that Goodell and his cronies have no integrity going in with a pre-drawn conclusion and have made a mockery of the arbitration process.

 

How do you guys think Cam Newton will handle this season? JJ Watt sack count this season? I honestly think the packers won't make the playoffs. AFC South is going to be a mess as always.

 

Was hoping you didn't know that. The balls were deflated. Tons of evidence against the Pats/Brady. You'd think it'd be over by now though.

 

If Osweiler can succeed in that offense Texans are sweeping that division EASY. Best defense in the division and then you have weapons for days on offense. GB is getting Nelson back, a slimmer Lacy, I believe they upgraded their O-line. Easily 5-1 in their division. JJ, 20+, dude is disgusting. As for Cam, I hope he has a terrible year. Watching the way he was in the regular season, being a cocky POS. And then the Super Bowl, dude is a sore winner and loser. But he's talented. And has KB back, set for another MVP run.

 

Science explains it through and through, the results of the tests that they were going to "run" this season have conveniently not been released as they later revealed they were only doing spot checks, there was considerable fallacies in the evidence in the first place, the people that did leak information were proven wrong and have been discredited, information was purposefully withheld, irrelevant facts have been blown up, the arbitration process was made a mockery of, what Brady was charged with was changed half way through the process (big no no) amongst other things that don't come to mind immediately.

Way to read past the dated headlines.

 

It's literally everybody against the Pats. Imagine if they phone was never destroyed, suspended and over with. Or Innocent and over with. Instead destroyed it, got his suspension upheld, only to be handed another a year later. This should be over with. Especially since even if they were deflated, Colts still had no chance.

 

They already had the records, the phone being destroyed was irrelevant and probably a smart move on Brady's part considering there have been several cases of phone records and conversations being leaked to various news outlets with other celebrities. The NFL literally stated they did not need his phone yet him destroying it was used to slander him, it's asinine.

 

Lowkey salty that they cancelled the hall of fame game...

 

oh how ive missed nfl so greatly, cant wait for this season.