Why the christian God is impossible - Chad Docterman

He doesn't

Acccording t Christianity, God is a being, not the universe, and why would the Earth be a living being? That's not evven a Christian concept so its ir

We may not be able to disprove God, but you can't prove him either. the point of this thread is to discus

 

The difficculty of saying something has nothing to do with if its true or not.

A singularity is just a theory and not a proven fact. Whos to say that there isn't a supermassive black hole at the center of the universe that is the source of all it's matter?

The Sun has used up only 2% because its a very new star comparitavly. Also, whos to say that there isn't some phenomenon that acts opposite of fusion, and creates hydrogen?

Did you forget the law of conservation of mass? We know this law to be correct also, otherwise none of stoiciometric calculations would come out to be anywhere near thier actual values. You can hardly cite entropy as a reason there is a God. The 2nd law is a statement about the probabable behavior of an isolated system. This law is also only applicable to systems that can be measured, and there is no way to measure the universe.

 

Last i checked, 2 scientests won the nobel peace price for information thatl ed to the discovery of this very thing. When matter enters a black hole, the black holy 'was recycling' and giving off the original matter as radiation. or heat.







Oh. And this really isn't a debate anymore. You've got your mind made up. I request Lock. =/

 

How can the universe lose energy/matter/light if it is the only thing. there is no void around the universe where something can escape.

A closed ecosystem can last forever without anything comming in or out of it without wear and tare.

Sure, a car does get old but you can you not repair it?

Tell me, what happens when you break off a liumb from a starfish? The starfish repairs itself.

 

The Earth being a living entity is a scientifical concept, which for the most part (concerning global warming) has been true. (Anyways i was just kidding about that to see your reaction lol)

Oh and everything apart from God has to be created. God does not have to be created because he is the creator.

Oh and the title of your thread suggests otherwise. As I said in my other post, you want attention plz (for being an Atheist/nonconformist)!1!!!

 

I'll have to read up on this myself I've never payed attention to it.

I'm not the creator of this thread. I'm just very interested in it, plus it makes my post count go up . And of course I've got my mind made up, but I'm open to any argument against my beliefs.

Can you explain what you said more clearly?

Ummm we've already discussed this I think...

According to a statistic I heard today, 3 out of 4 people in North America aren't Christian. Nonconformist eh?

 

You cannot choose to believe. You either believe, you are unsure, or you do not believe. Those whom claim that chose to believe, is lying to themself. It is called 'self deceit'.

There is of course always the opportunity, that someone is capable of changing your faith.

And I am Atheist.

 

yeh dpunk. It was actually really nice meeting someone that has a formed opinion and i respect that. It was good chatting )

 

yea its been great. I love this thread because its the only place I have to let my opinion out. None of my friends know I've become an athiest, I still go to church, and I don't think I'll be telling anyone soon...at least not until I know for sure how everyone will react. All my friends outside of church could really give a crap, but I know it's gonna devestate all my church friends, plus my family...I may end up keeping it to myself until I graduate and move...who knows...

 

w0w i have not heard of this verse b4 please tell me where it says that...

ABOUT THE CONTRADICTIONS think about it... the bible was written by many people over the course on 1000 years some of which were b4 jesus came when people's thoughts on god were blurred the bible has been translated many times in loads of different languages contredictions may have been caused by 1. changed meanings of words 2. fautly translation

BUT TAKE A STEP BACK

ATHEIST POINT OF VEIW you die and you are no more

CHRISTIANS POINT OF VEIW despite things that may lead us away from God (contradictions, fear of being rejected by the world) we belive God already rescued us and all we have to do is belivea and goto heaven while unbelivers ROT IN HELL

WHAT WOULD YOU RATHER DO
be arrogant and rot in hell...
or just belive despite everything and live without sorrows FOREVER.

but hey, belive what u want to belive. I DON'T CARE.

 

you cannot just bombard us with info and info saying god is fake?

showing only your opinion doesnt necersarily mean it is true, i personally am a christian, i am not going to give u a essay on why christianity is real, but i do wanna get some facts down, it takes more faith to beleive that the world was started by a 'big bang' then it is to beleive in god and for things to make sence, people who beleive that their is no god beleives and this is a fact that dogs came from a rock? wow u guys must have really good faith.. anyways im just giving you more information about what scientists beleive as if your showing a article/info from some random ive never heard off,

If you would like to talk about it more, fill free to pm me.. or reply but i may not reply as i am not in this sction quite alot..

 

"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household.

Mathew 10:34 (it may go on to 35 im not sure)

and yet you still believe it?

Im not an idealist, I'm more of a realist. I could care less if what I believe in says that when I die I will have a pineapple shoved up my ass 5 times a day, as long as what I believe is the truth.

Says who?

That depends on the community you live in. I will admit that for me it did take a step of faith, and of curiousity to go outside of what my family believes in. But that is because I live in a small town in Arkansas that is so saturated with religion, that I can stand in the parking lot of any church in town, and easily throw a rock into the parking lot of another church. And the whole thing about dogs coming from rocks, get a life kid?

 

i dont beleive a word of it its all bogus and senseless

 

look at it as someone offering you a lottery ticket your opions are...
1. you accept it and have a chance at having millions of dollars
2. say "no thx money is not for me"

of cours you would have anaswered 1, if 2 you would be insane.

think of it as christianity, all you have to do is belive and who cares if its not true beacause if what u say IS true you will die and be gone as if you didn't belive. IF YOU ARE AN ATHEIST and christianity is true YOU GO TO HELL. so what is better a chance or no chance? what do you have to lose?

 

you made excellent points in this thread, and has led me more to be an atheist. I am currently not a christian but I do believe there is a god.

 

Ah, yes. I used to disagree with the honorable Chad Docterman, but now I heartily agree with him, having reached the same conclusion myself.

 

yes i do.

 

what happens when ure atheist?

 

the first 4 paragraphs were excellent. then it seemed kinda repiditive ...
1. i couldn't understand most of those words used [ hope im not alone on that one ]
2. it got repetitive.
3. 93dcthugs93 , do YOU believe any or all of this?
4. cruel__machine, i agree its best we don't even begin mentioning the whole time side of this.
~ownage overdose

 

i have read several versions of the bible and ive got to tell you i dont believe in it this is a lame topic point that has many narrow\weak minded people if you care about what i think look at some of the other "does"god exist topics. and you are stereotyping its not because of them not wanting to give up a sinful life its the fact that the under stand that the bible is the biggest book of lies that will ever be. and if you believe you need to act a certain way to please your god and pay money and pray to your god then your obviously weak minded because a god of stature such as the one stated in the bible wouldnt need to be prayed upon etc. to know his people loved him nor act a certain way.nor would he let someone evil wash away there sins by praying to a holy man if thats what u can call them. if you believe you need to do that , then your god would have a god complex and im sorry but if he\she is like that , then they do not deserve nor will they get my prayer or respect. id rather burn in hell then kiss ass to someone like that , that lets the suffering that goes on happen.

when you are athiest and you die in most religions you get casted down into hell imediatly or cast into oblivion , if you are asking what a athiest is , its someone who does not believe in any religion.