Brussels Terrorist Attack, Three bombs detonated - Death toll rising

That's sheer stupidity. Why do you think the solution is to tell them that there entire religion is wrong? That wont any more terrorist attacks right? :huh:
I'm not sure what the solution is but surely telling them that there entire life and way of living is wrong can NOT be the solution.

 

Not their entire life, just the murderer, slaveholder, pedophile. If they accept that this guy is speaks for god, and this guy told them to kill unbelievers, then there's a fundamental problem.

There hasn't been a secular reformation in Islam.

 

I agree that part of the problem is that the teachings of Islam haven't been modified since Mohammeds time, and so still borrow on the barborous tone of the time(although Islam was considered progressive at the time of its introduction, it is now no longer). However I don't know how you go about changing the word of God. Do the respected Imams just say yo, Mohammed got it wrong? I agree that this would be the best solution, but don't think it is practical, certainly not on a short time scale.

Islam is also the fastest growing religion to date due to the birth-rate of its adherents. How would you suggest they go about changing the teachings; you may run into the Streisand effect since you will never fully redact the true words of the Koran in our digital age if you go that far.

He didn't say keep all muslims out of America though, and that there is part of the problem. Anyone who even mentions something negative about Muslims gets severely punished. The conversation cannot be had, people are too worried about their feelings and what they learnt in a first-year ethics class to think for themselves.


I would also add here separately, that I think it is possible that the reason for ISIS's rise let's say is in part due to our digitized society. I am quite sure anti-west sentiment existed from some parts of the Arabs in earlier times, however given that the technology wasn't there, and they had better things to worry about (such as feeding themselves), we never saw the manifestation of that negative sentiment. Anti-west sentiment from Islam is not a recent phenomenon, which is why it's all the more important to actually have the conversation about Islam as a whole.

 

It's not so much telling them that their faith got it wrong but moving away from fundamental Islam. Fundamental Christianity also has not been modified since the Old Testament was written (--> crusades), until the New Testament. Most classically Christian countries are now secular as when time passes, the doctrine of brutality and genocide of the Old Testament (still considered just as important a text today as the New Testament) just didn't make sense anymore.

It's not just Islam that was considered progressive at the time of it's introduction, most other major religions were as well yet we've moved literally thousands of years ahead. Not sure why it appears that the fundamental Islam ideology preaches thoughts to Islamist radicals that manifest themselves in violent acts more often than, for example, Christian radicals. Don't have any data to back this up though so please correct me if I'm totally wrong with this.

 

Probably because Muhammad was a mass murderer, slavetaker, and rapist pedophile. Jesus, albeit his delusions of grandeur, was no conqueror. He was executed by the government.

Here's a bit of data for you:



I'm too lazy to edit the screenshot, but there are even more attacks by Islam, including today's, not listed since that was produced: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll

 

As practical point, assuming that this is a guaranteed solution, and assuming it can practically be done, the sheer time frame for such a departure departure from fundamental Islam to occur would take too long a time. This isn't something that can be done in a year, and even if it were, it wouldn't solve radicalists as they would still believe in the one true interpretation, and ignore the shift. As a practical solution to the problem, it just fails. It's obviously something that needs to take place, but we also need other measures.

I definitely agree that a lot of religions at their inception were quite progressive for the time. As for why Islam manifests more violently than Christianity. It could be a lot of reasons, but one thing that has to be remembered is that Islam is a fundamental part of the 'arab' identity. The 'arabs' have had anti-western sentiments for quite some time. When you have the word of God along with generations of anti-western sentiment in your culture, it's not too hard to see how something like this can occur. In contrast, Christianity has always been inherently Western (atleast insofar as it had significant influences in our modern World, see Europe), and since the West is simply the superior power in the modern world, I don't think that there was a degree of anti-arab sentiment, since the West has always been dominant. Even if there was, there wasn't a method to express it at the time (globalization is a very recent phenomenon), and when there was a means to express it, our increasingly liberal attitudes have suppressed that (if it did exist). This is just my intuition, but when you compare and contrast Islam v Christianity in this context, you also have to compare and contrast the West v the Arab World.

 

didnt read the entire thread but this is why we need to vote for donald trump. he will protect us from attacks like these

 

You're crazy if you think that's true.

 

elaborate?

 

Sad world.

 

I really sympathize with people who live in western europe

 

it's terrible!

 

You build a wall and stop allowing refugee's and people from the middle east to enter your country. I understand not everyone is a threat but DAMN enough of them are. This is going to sound really bad but I'm glad it's happening elsewhere in the world. At least now it's just not America being targeted. Maybe the rest of Europe will acknowledge that there is in deed a fucking issue.

 

Except America was targeted by Islam with 9/11, the Boston Marathon bombings, the San Bernardino shootings, Fort Hood shootings, the "Draw Muhammad Free Speech" event shootings, etc.

 

Oh I'm fully aware of the attacks. I'm also aware of how sensitive and delusional muslim followers are. I personally dont believe in any religion or god. I'm a firm believer in evolution. I believe the Koran preach's hate and violence. I believe if anyone tries to point this out they're immediately condemned as a racist. It's political bullshit if you ask me. I want America to completely remove it'self from the middle east. I wish we could Build the wall and work on improving our homeland. Has anyone asked themselves why Isis doesnt target Asian's or their countries? It's because Asian countries stay the fuck out of the middle east and completely avoid those nut jobs. People need to realize that this radical islamic shit has been going on for centuries. It will never be conquered or defeated. Countries need to treat the Middle east and Muslim faith like an infection. Cut out what you can and attempt to keep it from spreading. I say build the wall and remove all access for middle eastern countries. I know it wont completely stop it but it'l make it a lot harder for them. I also advice the rest of the world follow suit. Why not just let the crazy fucks keep the middle east and everyone else move on in the world? Segregation isnt always a bad thing in my opinion.

 

Well, looks like it got censored. Original clips of the #CallBrussels video are here:

 

there is over 1 billion muslim around the world, of course not all of them are terrorists, ISIS or whatever other similar terrorist group misunderstood Islam and they are using this religion cover for their own benefits, ISIS is quite similar like the KKK in old times if you notice;


so does that make all Christians bad? and terrorist? of course no...
so @XieR0 dont be hating on all muslims and whatever you said is bullshit about the prophet peace be upon him, do your research.

 

I think anyone trying to push their religion to other people is wrong. Religion seems to be a huge (if not all) root to a lot of wars.

 

Yeah, you can/should show good things about (your) religion and they can convert if they want.
People shouldn't do a lot of things, they shouldn't kill eachother for religion,money or anything else.