What makes someone trusted?

I would say based on what i've seen.

How recent trades have went, how many times someone has traded for x amount with no issues, donor has a small play in it i would say, but normally those who want to enjoy something/community/business will invest well into the market they plan to enjoy and use, rather than not and scamming for small amounts of money.

 

If you are doing any business on Sythe, try to be the last man standing. Usually your competition will self-destruct due to petty scams and other unfortunate events.

Stay true to your values, which I hope is honesty and intergrity and you will very easily shine in this market over time. Let the morden day darwin's survival of the fittest work in your favour. This will give you the motivation to achieve all of the "ingredients" in the poll.

 

Well the combination with how long they have been around + the amount of $ donated to Sythe is to me personally important. If someone has been on Sythe for a number of years and has donated (say $300) it wouldn't make sense for him to scam me for let's say a 250M 07 trade as that (approx) equals the worth of their donor rank which they will lose permanently when they scam. This combination with vouches makes it even stronger, because let's be honest a person could just have an old Sythe account, make it $300 donor scam the first big trade, than when he gets banned on Sythe chargebacks the donated money (yes there are scumbags like this). The vouches will therefor be an important factor. You can look how many vouches the person has, what kind of vouched and how recent. Does he have forinstance multiply 200M 07 sales/buys or swaps in a recent timeframe than you should be pretty good to trade with the person.

For the people who will mention about being scared getting chargebacked in a later timeframe when they forinstance sold gp just switch to Bitcoins or any other non-chargeback payment method.

 

This describes it pretty accurately for me, for some reason I don't trust a single middle man I've ever spoken to except dunworry, We've barely talked to eachother and yet I feel like he's a genuine guy that I can trust. Something I had yet to experience with anyone that doesn't live in my country

 

I've seen plenty of people who would be "trusted" under the model of "vouches + seniority + donation amount = trust" scam. When someone is scamquitting or when an inactive "trusted" person is hacked, they don't give a shit about any of those factors anymore.
On the other hand, someone running a business who is active on Sythe would be able to respond to the issue of an account being compromised within hours and at least be able to mitigate some of the damage (and be able to reimburse any victims). Because of that, I trust someone based on how much they are reliant on Sythe for their income since it's highly unlikely they will scam for the amounts typically handled on a daily basis (i.e. someone running a gold business on here).

Therefore, the way I would determine someone's trust is through:
(vouches + seniority + donation amount + community involvement)/4 + recent activity (inactive accounts that suddenly become active again are suspicious) + recent Sythe-related income

Of course, that equation is only meant to be a representation of my thought process and not to actually be used to determine "trust". For any significant trades you'd want to do your own independent research into the person you're trading with.

 

To me a lot of it goes into how patient they are in trading, how many vouches they have and how community involved they are. If they're new and already have more vouches than I do it makes me wonder why they're investing so much time into getting vouches on a site that they have very little experience with. I also check for other red flags like sudden activity etc.

I don't consider donor ranks at all a sign of trust. If anything, I'd trust someone with no donor status than someone with 300$ donor status, assuming all other factors are the same.

 

I rushed to get as many vouches as I could upon joining Sythe (I believe I got ~50 for about $5000 in transactions in about a month) so that more people would choose to buy DSGP from me instead of other vendors. I'm probably an exceptional case though, since I'm selling gold created through bots I coded myself.

 

" If anything, I'd trust someone with no donor status than someone with 300$ donor status" What the actual fuck kind of weird logic is that xD?
I mean I understand you don't trust a new community member who instantly got a high donor rank. But actually trusting no donor rank over a donor rank is just absolutely weird logics in my opinion. Perhaps enlighten me how your vision on this works?

 

People who have got to where they are without donating money generally have to spend a lot more time and effort to build up their reputation because of the lack of donor status. As someone who took that route myself I can understand how difficult it could have been for them to start off. Their vouches are of much higher quality than someone who took the shorter path in my eyes.

The 'X donor so won't scam for Y' doesn't mean much good to me either. Sure you could argue that someone won't scam 50$ if they donated 50$, but then when they get a vouch for it is it really that noteworthy or show any trustworthiness? I've seen plenty of people donate say 100$, line up a few 50-100$ trades and then walk away with 300$ after scamming.

When I see a 500$ donor handle a 100$ trade I don't think much of it. When I see a non-donor handle a 100$ trade it really shows character. All other factors still apply but that's my logic behind it.

 

It shows character but if I trade $100 to a randy I will lose it 99% of the time >,>

 

The aforementioned $500 donor might have donated that much because he has been on Sythe for a long time and processed a large volume of trades ex. http://www.sythe.org/members/326433-rskingp.html

Of course, as stated before a new person suddenly donating a large amount of money is suspicious.
I obtained the SVU rank because I thought that it might give some reassurance to my customers that I was legit, but it didn't have a noticeable impact on the amount of sales from end users. In retrospect, people trusting me with (relatively) large amounts of money even when I had relatively few vouches (as I joined the site just after the release of DarkScape) was probably a result of my actually farming the GP itself. I doubt I'd have been trusted with as much money if I was a reseller/swapper.

Yes, a donor rank does have some value as "insurance".

 

Vouches. No not the amount of vouches they have on Syhte, but when someone who I deem trustworthy vouches for someone else. Sythe vouches don't mean that much to me, only excessive amounts (500-1k+ vouches) assure some sort security. Personally I didn't even make the effort to open a vouch thread even though I've handled a quite significant amount of money through the 'big' gold merchers here. Sadly most people do in fact base their judgement on whether someone is trusted merely on vouches/donator ranks. Hence every mass-oriented service/shop needs to comply to this trend.

After having done a lot of transactions, you eventually sorta know when someone is legit or a scammer. And the one out of a hundred time I do get scammed, ouch that's life.

 

"All other factors still apply but that's my logic behind it."

I'm not going to trade that much with a random person either, regardless of if they're a donor or not. I think you missed my point lol.

For people like that it really makes no difference what their donor rank is. Their reputation speaks volumes that a donor status does not.

 

a Trusted runescape player is someone who is usually active in the community and is a community player. Someone who has donated, and is well-known in the community.

 

How much they have donated, When they joined, Their post count, How many vouches they have all come into play when I think if I can trust someone.

 

I'd have to agree with you 100% on that point, I wouldn't be going first on several-hundred dollar trades with King/Won Ying if all they had were their donor tags and no reputation/vouches.

To get around the issue of having no/few vouches, offer a service that has a high barrier of entry and/or a service that no one is selling right now. You aren't going to stand out from the crowd of established (and most importantly, dependable) service groups/gold selling groups if you're new, even with a lower price. I've mentioned this a couple times in this thread already, but I joined Sythe to sell DarkScape gold, a good which was difficult to get and required a significant amount of Java programming knowledge (due to DarkScape being world-pvp and the lack of available bots for it), and was not available from the market from established sellers since DarkScape was new. This enabled me to compete with an even footing with older, more established parties, and eventually have the most viewed thread of any DarkScape gold seller.

Selling in increments is also a good idea for newer sellers.

New users usually haven't seen the person they're trading with before or have the market experience to know when someone is legit (which was your second point), so for them, vouches/donation amount are the best way to get at least some information about the trader.

 

would have to say their reputation on sythe based on how many vouches they have and their most recent ones

 

This ^

The amount of vouches means nothing imo. The quality of vouches, the donation size all mean a lot to me. Someone who's willing to invest is less likely to scam.

 

I'd like the think it's by vouches. My join date is extremely new but I've been gaining vouches at a rate I'm proud of and it's paying off. Getting lots of customers

 

Number of vouches + vouch size

for example id consider someone with 10 $1k trades of someone going first to them more trusted than someone with 100 $1-20 trades