Geez big bad AAS compound guide/

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Ask any questions about any Anabolic steroid, Post-Cycle Therapy, Peptides, Hormones.

I will give you all the knowledge I have on it.

ASK away I am here to educate you on these compounds.
This thread is for educational purposes-for the sake of research and do not try this at home you could screw up your health or end up on testosterone replacement therapy.
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COMPOUNDS LISTED SO FAR:

Sustanon 250-Sustanon 250 is a blend of four testosterone esters testosterone propionate, testosterone phenylpropionate, testosterone isocaproate and testosterone decanoate. These esters make Sustanon one of the longest-lasting steroid compounds available today. It is an ideal compound for putting on size and increasing muscle strength. Sustanon will remain active in the body for up to a month after your last injection was given. Beginning you post cycle drug therapy immediately after the steroid has been discontinued will not be very effective. Instead, hCG or Clomid/Nolvadex should be delayed three weeks, until you are near the point where blood androgen levels have dropped significantly.

hCG (human Chorionic Gonadrotropin)- In anabolic users, hCG is used to combat the shutdown of LH. hCG mimics the luteinizing hormone (LH) allowing for the user to stimulate the testes for testosterone production, solving the issue of shutdown when on an anabolic cycle or testosterone replacement therapy. The use of hCG can reduce the recovery time of post cycle therapy since the testes never actually shut down while on cycle. Since studies have shown that the use of testosterone can greatly reduce the natural testosterone levels of the user post cycle, hCG is a valuable tool in recovery and also a valuable tool for maintaining fertility while on trt. In order for post cycle recovery of LH function to occur, your androgenic hormones have to come to a state of balance again by lowering to a level the HPTA is comfortable with, for a lack of better words.

Aromasin (Exemastane)- Developed to help fight breast cancer, Aromasin is one of the most powerful estrogen suppressing compounds available for body builders taking anabolic steroids. Additionally, it also raises testosterone in the body, which is a bonus for bodybuilders during post-cycle-therapy.

Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate)/Clomid (Clomiphine citrate)-estrogen antagonists such as Nolvadex or Clomid may be sufficient for testosterone stimulating purposes, particularly when halting the use of a milder or shorter steroid program (which should have a less pronounced impact on the hormonal system). With stronger cycles most option to enhance the stimulating effect of these drugs with HCG, a hormone that mimics the action of LH.

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EXAMPLE OULINES:

SUSTANON 250 15X WK/FULL WITH PCT:
On cycle: 15 wks
PCT: 4 wks
wks: 1-12
Sustanon 250 - .5 cc/1 injection every 3.5 days (150mg every 3.5 days)

wks: 1-15
Aromas - .25mg / every 3 days

wks: 1-15
hCG - 250 iu 2x per week

wks 15-19
Clomid- 3 weeks after last injection
40/40/20/20 mg every day each week

wks 15-19
Nolvadex- 3 weeks after last injection
50/50/25/25 mg every day each week

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Curious about what each of the supplements you mentioned above do, like what exactly they're used for. Sustanon, Aromasin, HCG, and clomid. And why use some during the beginning, but others during the later weeks?

 

Sustanon 250-Sustanon 250 is a blend of four testosterone esters testosterone propionate, testosterone phenylpropionate, testosterone isocaproate and testosterone decanoate. These esters make Sustanon one of the longest-lasting steroid compounds available today. It is an ideal compound for putting on size and increasing muscle strength. Sustanon will remain active in the body for up to a month after your last injection was given. Beginning you post cycle drug therapy immediately after the steroid has been discontinued will not be very effective. Instead, hCG or Clomid/Nolvadex should be delayed three weeks, until you are near the point where blood androgen levels have dropped significantly.

hCG (human Chorionic Gonadrotropin)- In anabolic users, hCG is used to combat the shutdown of LH. hCG mimics the luteinizing hormone (LH) allowing for the user to stimulate the testes for testosterone production, solving the issue of shutdown when on an anabolic cycle or testosterone replacement therapy. The use of hCG can reduce the recovery time of post cycle therapy since the testes never actually shut down while on cycle. Since studies have shown that the use of testosterone can greatly reduce the natural testosterone levels of the user post cycle, hCG is a valuable tool in recovery and also a valuable tool for maintaining fertility while on trt. In order for post cycle recovery of LH function to occur, your androgenic hormones have to come to a state of balance again by lowering to a level the HPTA is comfortable with, for a lack of better words.

Aromasin (Exemastane)- Developed to help fight breast cancer, Aromasin is one of the most powerful estrogen suppressing compounds available for body builders taking anabolic steroids. Additionally, it also raises testosterone in the body, which is a bonus for bodybuilders during post-cycle-therapy.

Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate)/Clomid (Clomiphine citrate)-estrogen antagonists such as Nolvadex or Clomid may be sufficient for testosterone stimulating purposes, particularly when halting the use of a milder or shorter steroid program (which should have a less pronounced impact on the hormonal system). With stronger cycles most option to enhance the stimulating effect of these drugs with HCG, a hormone that mimics the action of LH.

 

Lots of misconception going around the bodybuilding community about keeping your steroid gains after you finish your cycle. People think that if you jump on a cycle and get to a weight that is achievable naturally, you'll end up keeping all those gains.

Would you have any knowledge as to why that isn't possible?

AAS stands for Anabolic Androgenic Steroids. One way of administering them is through cycles, meaning a certain ml is injected every week. You do this for like 12-16 weeks I believe, and then use post cycle therapy to come off These aren't supplements, but fuck you'll gain mass at an unimaginably fast rate.

 

Ronaldo to your question above about not keeping your gains after post cycle.

That is not 100% true, when your on AAS your body is like a hamster on a wheel.. you have to eat a lot, train harder to gain decent amount of size... with all the steroids you have in your system wether it be test-e or tren your bodies natural levels are increased by a lot so when your off your cycle those gains will start to slowly decrease because your body is going back to normal/natural state. That is why PCT is introduced as it helps keep body in check health wise and gain wise... you can still keep a decent amount of muscle you gained on cycle when your off but you have to keep up your eating habits and eat a lot to feed all that muscle and train as hard as you would on cycle.

 

Thanks for your input. However, I've watched a video of someone who's pretty popular in the fitness industry (and was/is an experienced steroid user) and he has some points that contradict yours.



^ if you'd like to have a look.

 

Bios3 is a loser haha.... hes still living in the past.... dumb geezer making money off youtube

 

Agreed with both posts.., mainly people don't think to change their eating towards their BMI as it changes. I will link some human studies tomorrow super tired right now. PCT is put in place to help your body adjust to producing its own test again naturally and used to negate adverse side effects that can occur..

 

thanks for the info

 

Thanks for the information , but i do no suggest to anyone use steroids. Using steroids is worth only when you have gained your body maximum muscle.

 

I completely agree with you. I want everyone to be safe so whether they want to learn more about these compounds or know if they are ready I am here to help. The goal is long term gains and health not quick gains and TRT for the rest of your life

 

Been a great read thus far. I'm not interested in steroids at all. I want to look physically appealing to the ladies, don't want to take it too far haha. Always good to have that knowledge, so that I'm well rounded in the entire field though ^-^

If you were to recommend steroids Geez, at what age and under what circumstances would you recommend them?

 

I like your mindset, lets have a baby?

But on some seriousness - I would not recommend anyone use them before getting bloodwork done to check and see how your body naturally is. I would say a good rule of thumb as far as age goes would around 27+ years old. Most people will suggest 25-26 but everyones body is different ( a good reason to get the testing done in the first place ALSO will help you know if your body is recovering correctly and how well your PCT is doing for after cycle blood tests). I would say if you are naturally low and a doctor suggests TRT/HRT for you of course. As far as a normal healthy person who wants to jump on for competing I would say it comes down to themselves asking if they have done everything from diet, exercise, lifetime and naturally available to them before thinking about doing anything in terms of an anabolic. My own personal belief is that these compounds unless Medically prescribed should only be taken by actual competitors not some 20 year old wanting to look good for spring break..

Hope that clears up my view point a bit

 

Geez are you on Juicedmusle forum page?
I am an active user on there.
Good post on here, I get a lot of my info on AAS via friends on JM.

 

no i am not.. you should always be careful about what you read online.. and on another note guys IM BACK :]