iCody agent of Bus369- allowed?

Posting on behalf of banned users is strictly prohibited unless the post pertains to a pardon, report, dispute, or other serious events which they may have information for. Doing so will result in an infraction, and quite possibly a forumban from the section the post was made in.

This rule is explicitly outlined in the official rules, yet iCody is allowed to continue making threads for his boss bus369? His actions clearly violate this rule. It is clear that Bus369 is the boss, as Bus is the person who created his dispute and himself stated: "I was given explicit permission from staff to use Cody to act on my behalf." His behalf? Then isn't this ban evasion? WTF?

Please keep in mind Bus369 is bankrolling iCody, and is his BOSS. This means he's clearly acting on behalf of his boss (bus369). This decision is allowing Bus to circumvent his ban - what difference is this from vading - if iCody was the boss in the situation, then it would be fair game, but iCody is working for a banned member. I'm sure bus is the one doing all of the trades, what is stopping Bus369 from scamming a bunch of money then running away? He's already banned- there is no incentive for him to stay legit. If this happens, iCody does not have the means to repay any victims as he is entirely dependent on a banned member's funds.

I just want community input on this issue. Should a banned member still be allowed to partake in our community? They posed a risk in the past, why should they be allowed to rejoin by paying an unbanned member? It's just an unnecessary risk - if he wants to rejoin and reap the benefits of Sythe he should submit a successful pardon.

 

I just checked out what's happened as I'm a little behind as far as recent bans/twc/pardons go and I'm surprised that he was allowed because there wasn't yet something to say it's not allowed.

What if one day Bus decides he's had enough and wants to close down his business. He then informs his worker of this and decides since he's still banned from Sythe decides to team up with his worker and scamquit. Unless Bus's worker is well established (If he's working for Bus then he probably isn't and was just looking for employment) he won't have any reason to stay and would probably follow Bus's word over Sythe rules.

I would imagine Bus has a deposit of Cody's. Bus could easily use that deposit to manipulate Cody and since he's already banned he would stand to lose nothing, especially if his pardon is denied. It's such a huge risk that doesn't need to be taken.

 

Everything is mine, the skrill, the paypal, the rsps stock, the rs stock, Bus has a deposit against everything Im holding, thats all, There is no risk because Bus has a constantly updating deposit which Gets added to as we make money.
I have the funds to refund anybody if they were scammed. However I'm the only one doing transactions so that will not happen.
We are very much counter balancing each other, bus already thought this all through, and obviously its fine as long as bus is not banned for scamming(WHICH Staff has confirmed, Read the dispute, there is proof of it)

 

You're his WORKER. He made that very clear in the dispute - you're being manipulated. You don't need him. I'll get off your ass if you just cut ties with him. If you're the boss it makes sense, but since he's above you it shouldn't be allowed. If he has access to your accounts you are just setting yourself for a big disaster.

 

I have far more control over everything and all the money and its solely my control, bus trusts me, he just keeps a deposit which updates as we make money since I can charge-back on Paypal etc that's all, I'm actually running the entire show, If you guys didn't know bus was behind me, you wouldn't even be able to tell the diff honestly, I control EVERYTHING.
I buy stock, sell stock, make threads, Pm everyone, I literally do the whole setup, If you don't believe me, check, Every single stock I've bought has gone to the accounts I hold personally, I buy Alotic and put it on my account, sell Alotic and put it off my account, Ikov, Pkhonor, Grinderscape, 07, Eoc all of it, You guys need to stop relating me so closely to Bus, he's just the far figure sitting on the sidelines.

 

Then why exactly do you need him? no reason for reputable members to be associating with those banned for blackhat. seems risky imo.

What exactly are these "deposits"

 

Yeah just cut ties with him - he's only gonna lead to trouble

 

Why are you letting Bus become any part of the business that you can start up ON YOUR OWN? What you honestly want is to build up to 100-150 of YOUR OWN VOUCHES and then open a gold shop. People will see that you've built trust and not here to mess around, plus you're $25 donator and SVU. Why are you being the puppet in this situation, you might think it's cool because you get trades, but it's your gold, your money, your responsibility. I'm going to consider Bus a worker in this situation because of how much you actually own. You don't need a worker/boss in your predicament because you already have full control of everything, and yet you're still going to continue to pay Bus a deposit in case you were to charge back on Paypal? That's insane!

 

You can work with/trade with banned members if you so wish; but the workers/business rule still is in effect: if bus scams then cody will be held accountable - it is up to the customers using said business to decide whether that risk is worth taking.

 

If he wants to keep working with Bus give him TWC and be done with it. Remove when hes not working for him.

 

How would we know if he;s not working with him? He can simply lie

 

You guys are looking at this all wrong. There is absolutely no chance of bus scamming. I do everything.... So please just stop with your assumptions. As far as TWC goes, your make me laugh. I have done nothing wrong to earn TWC. And honestly, Bus has not scammed anybody either. So please, drop it.
Also

If you have not noticed A admin has made the decision twice now. So please drop it

 

The concerns are not with Bus scamming, it's with you scamming and nobody being able to pay things off because Bus has no reason to refund if he's banned.

Is the fact Bus is your manager but is banned,and his ban reason clearly displayed in every trade you do? IMO it should be. If you're not clearly displaying it and instead making it hard to find it's very misleading when someone makes a purchase off you.

Also what is the point in banning someone if they can operate almost exactly the same as they used to in the market without needing an unbanned account on Sythe? Yes Bus hasn't scammed, nor has Cody, but Bus is banned and Cody is operating on behalf of a banned member. That's almost identical to ban evasion except it's with the aid of a third party.

 

They really don't need to be concerned with who i "work" for. As there trading me. My gold, my vouches. My trust. Thanks tho

 

I disagree. If I was considering trading with you I sure as hell wouldn't go anywhere near you if that information was provided to me. That's very unethical trading if you're hiding information from your customers.

^ Customers can't make an informed decision if they don't have the information to do so.

 

Guys, leave Cody alone.

Bus is someone totally different to Cody, if he's affiliated so what.

Cody is in control of the stock, and bus is clearly some sort of investor or something along those lines.

It's perfectly legit what he's doing, as Bus369 isn't the one sending PayPal funds etc, it's all Cody.

Anyone who gets scammed by Cody, if this actually happens will all be dependent upon Cody, not Bus.

Let him do his thing and stop disrupting his business.

Guess what? So what if it's unethical, so is Starbucks avoiding tax, lots of business' do it, some avoid tax whereas some don't.
That's life for you.

Peace.

 

Thank you for having some common knowledge.

 

It's all right mate.

Just seems unfair that people are judging you because someone else who is banned was a partner.

As long as he isn't using your Sythe or it's not him sending payments, then I don't see this as a cause for concern.

Another thing is the amount you've donated doesn't seem to matter anymore.
Look at the amount of $200+ donors that scam as well who evade and stuff.

It's a real shame Sythe has come to this.
I hope Sythe implements a rule for trades over 250M, which requires you to hold your face next to your ID with your Sythe username.

It'd reduce the scam rate so much.

1. Because the scammers info would be given out, SVU doesn't mean much as you can pay other people to verify for you. Wherwas, paying for ID would be something that people would be sceptical about.

2. Because if the same guy tried to evade, their info would be on record so they wouldn't be able to scam big trades.