Purpose

Maybe it's the "who am I?" stage...

Whatever it is, I'm finding it hard to be satisfied with life. Everything I do, ultimately, is purposeless. None of it will matter when I am gone, aside from the subliminal impressions I have made on those who spend time with me, and the impressions that they pass on through the generations.

It's sad, but 90%, roughly, of the people I know couldn't tell you about their 2nd great grandparents lives, even their names. So this goes to show you how long it takes to be forgotten.

The collection of money seems to be the only constant I see with people. But let's get real, it's imaginary, only given value because we give it that value. The only reason money is important anymore is simply because you can not gather food without it. Even if you raise your own livestock, you have to buy your own land. Therefore, money is purposeless in the eyes of this beholder as well. I collect it for the increase in comfort in my life, and that alone.

I hold on to love, because it makes me feel complete. It is not my purpose.

Is purpose a lie? If there was a God, to make your life meaningful, why would it leave us so lost?

I am lost in this existence. Does anyone feel me?

 

After reading the third line I was almost about to comment saying that you have a negative mindset until I saw the fourth line. You're completely right. Thanks for that, I felt enlightened, blown away almost haha

 

In all truthfulness, the average person will be forgotten fairly quickly after they die, likely within a hundred years or so. And you're right, nothing you do now is going to make a significant difference to the world.

The reason this causes stress for many people is because we're all raised to succeed, we're told what we should try to accomplish and what the ideal life looks like - but in reality, life doesn't have a "meaning" there is no "purpose".

Philosophical dilemmas like this are likely due in part to the construct of modern, first world societies. In tribal communities, the transformation from child to adult is marked with a right of passage. In modern society this happens rarely, likely attributing to the "who am I?" dilemma.

Richard Dawkins once said that asking the question "what is the meaning of life?" is like asking "what is the meaning of mountains?". It's an inherently silly question, mountains don't have a "purpose" there's no reason for them to be here. We can study the events that lead to the mountains being formed and shaped the way they are, but to ask "what is their purpose" is just silly.

Believing in God is the easy version, it answers all questions before they're asked; God did it.

But if you reject the existence of deities then you need to understand that there is no grand purpose for you. There is no reason you exist, you just do.

So my advice regarding life would be to just enjoy it, because no matter how long you ask this question you will never find a satisfying answer.

You have this one life to enjoy so try not to spend to much time worrying about what to do with it. It'll be over before you know it.

 

That makes a lot of sense. Your parents always want the best life for you, they did for me. They raised me to succeed and even though I am on a successful path, it doesn't seem worth anything. Maybe it comes as you mature. I can't deny that I would raise my own children to be successful, though. Ultimately, it's very cynical, looking at it in such a way.

As for the quote, exactly how I'm feeling. Thanks for such a great response.

 

We are an accidental happening that just happens. There is no path or destiny or purpose. Our lives are meaningless. But there are things each one of us likes that bring us emotions we like and there are things that each of us dont like that bring about emotions we dont like experiencing.

Ones life should focus around bringing those emotions to oneself and other people in as much of a balance as you are capable of.


((obviously not applicable for those of religious belief)).

 

These are principles of Satanism. The pleasing of one's carnal desires. I agree with you that finding pleasure in life is worth living for, but my dillema is the overall absence of purpose in existence. It's so vague, what we currently understand. We build empires and are proud of them, but then pass them on when we're forgotten.

This reminds me of Ecclesiastes, the book in the Bible after Proverbs. I completely reject Christianity as brainwash, but King Solomon speaks of the meaningless toils on Earth, and he was the richest man of his time.

Not really trying to get into religious talk too deeply, but I'm more of a pragmatist. I believe in the possibility of supernatural forces, but until verified, they don't exist.

Which is part of my dillema.

 

ollowing the mind is the key to happiness, peace and understanding. School teachers say look past your nose, I say look beneath the surface, explore the mind and understand. Politics and regulating others in any way is wrong. All problems are caused by everybody combined following the wrong ideas which eventually lead to wrongdoing, wronging each other and a system forced upon others. There would be no problems with the mind if we didn't follow a system, thus things such as murder and theft would cease to exist because they are products of a mislead mind. Life has value, deep down you realize, you've just been blinded from it like many people. When I die I believe my mind will be at it's peak of realization and understanding and pain will mean nothing in comparison, if anything at all.

think of it this way, death is meaningless
we give so much meaning to death today
we talk about the afterlife, and give more life to the dead then the living (think about it)
Thats what maybe giving you this perceived meaningless in life.

Also Swiss Maestro
"If you do not believe in God, you only other choice is absurdism and nihilism.

Life is inherently meaningless if there is no God"
!. The only thing that gives meaning to your life is believing in something that is less probable then the existence of pygmy centaurs on mars.
2. If god exist:
A: Life was created just for the heck of it
B: Life was created for a purpose to worship this deity (sounds totally meaningful)
C: Life has no meaning, in fact after life is better than life. Wow, That sure does give life some more meaning.

 

I'm slightly confused, as you hopped about, but I'll respond as best I can.

You speak of a point before death where you will be at your peak of realization and understanding. I agree with this, every lesson and experience you have lived will constantly change your peak of understanding, it raises every minute you live. Therefore, the minutes before your death, will be your ultimate peak.

Yet, this too, is meaningless.

As for murder and theft, it is antisocial behavior. Yet the behavior, the theft, the murder, as well is meaningless.

Your bullet points, 1, 2, a, b, c....
Furthers my belief that all is meaningless.

 

Yes, satanism is good. And I agree with 99% of it. But not all feelings are carnal. Reading a book and listening to an orchestra give me good emotions, etc.

 

And on that note; Satanism could fit really well with you. Being the Godly spirit rather than seeking an external one for an explanation would maybe fulfill your conundrum here.

 

I have studied the philosophy. I like to call it a philosophy, not a religion. I do not necessarily agree with LeVays emphasis on dogma.

I've read The Satanic Bible, as well as the Satanic Scriptured penned by Peter H. Gilmore. I apply their teachings to my daily life.

We are the gods of our world. We have experienced the most brutal struggle, as in my sig. I am the God of my surroundings, every instance that I allow or disallow to affect me is determined by me.

However, Satanism leaves me with an everlasting thirst to explore the unseen. It is a practical, humanist approach to life that avoids the mysteries of life.

As I mature, I hold on to the lessons I've learned, but I search for a deeper purpose. Some may not give it a second thought. It may be I'm a Virgo, we're described as the searchers of meaningful purpose. I feel as if my quest will never end, but I know I'll learn much along the way.

 

I'm a Virgo too but I struggle to connect the planets' movement with my personality traits; however I do agree that I do that myself haha.

It's a scary prospect, how little we know and understand.

 

Moved to a slightly more appropriate forum, best of luck with your endeavors to find purpose in life

 

Have you tried any personalized readings?

See, the problem with generalized astrology is that your date of birth, time of birth, place of birth, all play a factor in the accuracy of your reports.

 

It's either you have a purpose (religion answers this) or you don't have any purpose at all- just cuz'.

I happen to see it as you be the best person you can be ( it includes worship, enacting on morals, enjoying life, etc) and do your best. Then you'd have no regrets, and possibly feel life/purpose fufillment. In the end also, whether you you believe in a religion like me, or don't, one ppint I can mention is that its the truth that true happiness from whatever there is in life comes primarily from contentment, being satisfied with what you have/who you are.