Whats your opinon on afking for 6 hours?

I never said it was cheating, nor does it have anything to do with software. It's about exploitation of non human interactive game play for an extended period of time. I certainly don't agree with this because it deprives and devalues the achievements of players who play the game properly. If you think this was an intention of the mechanic, you're surely wrong.

The process is ridiculous and more efficient than botting. The amount of exp shouldn't matter because the idea is to leave it there for 6 hours and overtime that xp adds up. The problem with botting is it's dangerous and can't be exploited in length without much guarantee of success. If you can't see that this uses the same concept of a bot, you're not thinking straight.

You still don't get it don't you? Anyone is able to bot, does it mean they should do it?

 

I think it's kind of ridiculous how people are getting maxed melee by just leaving their computer on 24/7 and just relogging before they go to school/work, when they get home from school/work, when they go to sleep, and when they wake up. It's getting a bit out of hand, It's not technically against the rules because it is a loophole in Jagex's system. However it does seem highly abused and overpowered.

 

It is not even close to more efficient that botting. Compare the XP rates and you tell me that afking NMZ is more efficient than botting.

It's same concept other than the fact that there is no 3rd party software, no other movements going on. Somewhat same concept, but not really relatable.

Anyone is able to bot yes. Anyone is able to afk yes. Difference is one gets you banned, one does not. Email Jagex your frustration and they can give you 'players that work so so so hard' on your account can get some sort of compensation for doing the correct methods in the game compared to the AFKers.

 

I don't think AFKing is against the spirit of the game. If there exists a training method which doesn't require any player interaction, what's the difference between a player sitting at his computer for six hours rotating his screen/typing in friends chat and between him not being present at the computer? Whether or not AFKing is against the rules is a different question--I don't think it is, but I'm not sure--but I certainly don't think it should be against the rules. For a historical perspective, I only remember the occasional person complaining about Guthan's at bandits - why is it suddenly a big deal?

Re "AFK is basically botting": not at all - botting is not defined as "any approach to the game reducing player actions per minute" - the rule prohibits using third-party software to gain an unfair advantage in the game

 

My point exactly.

As you said, botting can get you banned. It's more efficient to use this method as there are no risks, and doesn't take you long to max at all. Can you stop mentioning the use of 3rd party software? The two are comparable. I've already addressed the issue on the forum and it will be talked about on their next Q&A livestream, so keep watch for that.

Afking is not against the spirit of the game, afking for 6 hours is. You weren't able to afk at bandits for 6 hours because randoms were not optional and required human input. With randoms gone, this leaves room for exploits which I've already addressed to Jagex.

 

i got 85-95 with guthan afking

 

I'm ok with it but i'm mostly just skilling/merching anymore.

 

I'm ok with it, as long as you aren't using any third party programs its fair game. AFK casting has been going on for years within in the game, its just part of the game mechanics

 

I wouldn't say it's more efficient. I guess it depends what you're basing efficiency off of. I base it off of XP gained p/h and AFKing definitely is not the most efficient.

Sorry for mentioning 3rd party software, that's just my main point in why AFK should be allowed, etc.

The 2 are very comparable as I've agreed with you. Should it be taken out of the game? Probably yes. Do I use the AFK method? Of course, I'm going to take advantage of Jagexs' fault.

 

To be honest, if jagex is going to make their game such a grind. They should allow things that remove this grind without the use of illegal 3rd party programs (bots).

 

I wouldnt use the cast method to be honest, too expensive and the xp rates are not good enough, simply just not worth the electricity.

 

This. Also, your afking chances are pretty limited to a few different skills and places

 

Afk is no problem to me. People have been doing it since Runescape Classic and just putting something on your space bar to keep you logged in : P

 

Yeah, not for 6 hours though.

 

And as you stated before about the Dev team covering it, they did and said it's part of the game.

 

Those comparing AFKing to botting are just plain wrong on almost every level for reasons stated elsewhere in this thread. I do however think that players should be discouraged from AFK training such as NMZ and bandits.

This issue relates back to other topics such as people wanting birds nests to stay on the ground longer and produce unique coloured text when they have fallen. The whole point is that players that work harder should get greater rewards.

 

I already said it was. How would you be able to do it if it wasn't?

 

Part of the game as in it's going to stay around and people are going to be able to continue to do it.

 

Bugs are part of the game, yet that's removed.
Luring is part of the game, yet methods are removed.

These things were in the game prior to nmz and random events being optional, but you weren't able to AFK for 6 hours. If smoke battlestaff wasn't an item, no one would afk magic.

This means that this is an addition only to oldschool runescape. You weren't able to do this previously in the main game.

I'm not surprised that the J mods kept it in the game. Most grief at the fact that this game has a grind that most people with short attention spans or those who have limited playing time can't cope with. Not to mention that the team is filled with younger members and still current players who have bias opinions on the matter.

This hurts the integrity of the game. Some people don't realize that because they're blinded with greed and care only about themselves. This game is turning into a private server and no one can deny that.

 

Actually botting involves a 3rd party software and afking doesn't give u an advantage as others can do it easily, and not only that, some people train while not afking cause they enjoy it, whereas some people afk and are fine with it...