BigBoiBets Chips Gone?

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  1. Unread #1 - Aug 9, 2014 at 1:01 PM
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    BigBoiBets Chips Gone?

    Scammer's Sythe profile link: http://www.sythe.org/members/387579-bigboibets.html
    Prove that the user is the same: He has proven he owns BigBoiBets.com
    Proof of offsite scam/blackhat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrBxjlzW7lE


    The dicing randomly stopped working, upon trying to make a bet it was showing an error. Started to record it and when I logged back in my chips were reset/taken. Asked the admins in the chat about it, they said it has been happening a lot and to email [email protected](http://gyazo.com/e6e4d84c1a6a7cfbefefa360928930d9), after doing so I was given a short response saying they are working on it. I contacted Izinc on skype(http://gyazo.com/231d77704f53394d3a75eb8642b21aac) and all he told me to do was to wait for it to be fixed. Making this post as I have been messaging him and haven't gotten a response...

    EDIT: My cousin contacted him on skype this morning and he replied pretty much saying he wasn't going to be refunding any of it and removed me from skype. Would like this to be added to his pardon please and thank you!
     
  3. Unread #2 - Aug 10, 2014 at 4:32 PM
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    Any update on this report? Haven't seen a response.

    EDIT: To anyone Izinc is telling that all of these issues are "Resolved" You will find numerous people in the BBB chat claiming they were never given their chips with or without the proof and logs. Izinc has been informing people that this is "Resolved' as well when it most certainly isn't. The only thing he did was send generic replies and then claim he wasn't going to refund and block me from skype.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Aug 10, 2014 at 7:28 PM
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    User: http://www.sythe.org/members/420708-jiffy.html
    Original scam report: www.sythe.org/report-scammer/1743910-bigboibets-chips-gone.html

    Jiffy's transfer history accounting for 188M total chips worth of cashins:

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    Jiffy's poker highscores statistics accounting for a total loss of 77M:

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    Jiffy's dicing statistics accounting for a total loss of 121M:

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    The sum of these gambling statistics equating to the total number of chips Jiffy has purchased 188M.

    All of Jiffy's dice bets can be found here: http://bigboibets.com/verify.php search "Jiffy"

    Which you're more than welcome to cross reference against all of his balance logs: http://pastebin.com/cxgLa3AF (API refers to dice bets)

    Which peaked at 207784500 contradictory to the amount displayed in his video.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Aug 10, 2014 at 8:10 PM
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    Oh wow, you're really going through hoops to try and avoid this aren't you Izinc. Alright Let's start.

    1. You will clearly see, Not only CONFIRMED by Kent, the software owner/creator that all logs are saved in a .txt form and are EASILY manipulated, but along with Joopii, who I contacted about first about the logs saved form... This was easily expected of Izinc and his own former partner could have predicted it... http://gyazo.com/9f490ed8f76a01c670ed051e2991f9fc
    2. You can't even keep your amounts correct in any form. Let's see just where you went wrong when editing your "logs" Izinc. Here is what you sent to Roary to try and avoid this report. http://i.gyazo.com/ce971108898c7804de2dc1e4cee50b31.png Let's go ahead and look in depth. You claim in this that I lost a total of 71m Dicing, and 121m playing on the tables, Yet in this post you claim 77m lost from poker, and 121m from dicing. Your numbers are ALL over the place for obvious reasons.
    3. You can't even do math correctly. You claim that I lost 121m dicing, and 77m In poker, yet in your own poker "Logs" it clearly says 71m. And last I checked 121m + 71m Does not equal 188m that you claim is all I have ever bought in with. You are simply sad for trying to avoid the issue.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Aug 10, 2014 at 8:51 PM
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    BigBoiBets Chips Gone?

    Chips Bought: 188,870,000
    Chips Lost: 193,587,200

    Chips unaccounted for: 4,717,200

    The balance logs from the API looks clean. I'm not sure if freerolls would be a factor.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Aug 10, 2014 at 9:01 PM
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    I have saved them into a text document and will try to find a mistake or two as I am sure that Izinc either edited them, or replaced my logs with another players logs and used the replace feature to change the name.

    Edit: I have been unable to find anything wrong with the given txt that he posted. However, I can recognize the fact I have never played omaha, nor known how to play omaha. Given this I can tell for sure that Some/Most/All parts of the text are possibly faked or replaced with another person... Given this I can't really prove this to anyone other then myself. I don't have the logs, nor the ability to edit and manipulate them how I please like Izinc. I know he was informed of this post way before he responded, he has had days to fake logs and manipulate things and I can't really prove anything other then the video of the incident. I have nothing to gain from making a "Fake Report" as Izinc claims. Faking a video is almost near impossible, and doing it at a time where he happens to be having issues is just incredibly unlikely... I know Izinc won't refund it, he's proven to me he has no intention in losing his rsgp and is a greedy beyond repair. He isn't willing to pay me, nor the eithers who were affected and weren't fortune enough to think quickly and video the incident. People on his chatbox even to today have been complaining about it, and i'm sure Izinc solves it by blocking them on skype and banning them. At this point I see it being the staff's choice as to whether or not to trust .txt files that he could manipulate without anyone knowing, or a video proof + confirmation that he could edit the logs + inconsistencies in his stories. At this point i'll wait for a response in hope people realize the corruption of Izinc.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Aug 13, 2014 at 5:56 PM
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    Bump for exposure, no response from mods/admin or Izinc. At this point I don't see him refunding it as he just moves his GP through his admin toughbluff... Not sure what else to say.
     
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    BigBoiBets Chips Gone?

    Given the evidence posted by iZinC and my response to the report, what are you asking for as a resolution?
     
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    At this point i'll take any opinion but yours. Given you're a previous high ranking member of Bigboibets, you shouldn't be the one to deal with this on my personal level. If you even READ or WATCHED the video, you would see there is a clear issue. Izinc can manipulate the logs to any form that he wants, and he clearly has done that. There's no explanation for what occurred in the video and it's baffling to see you supporting him with the evidence presented... He can't even keep his god damn amounts right between what he's said, and what amounts he's actually put into the fake logs. This is just ridiculous.
     
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    BigBoiBets Chips Gone?

    Your video seems convenient. Why were you taking a video of dicing in the first place?

    By investigating an element with HTML, you can modify the displayed amount of chips in your balance.
    When you reload the page, the amount that was modified isn't going to be there as it's loaded server side.
    (Ergo, chip balance displayed never existed.)



    Dealing with this report has no bias, as my responses are based on facts only. You have yet to provide any.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Aug 13, 2014 at 6:44 PM
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    My video seems convenient? The dicing wasn't working when putting in an amount given I actually had that amount on my account. Have yet to provide any facts? Let's count since you aren't able to.

    1. During this time, there was NOTHING said about this "incident" of chips appearing, I was the first person to report this to Izinc and he had gotten more requests soon after. The fact is, the timing is convenient I would "FAKE" a video, at the ONLY time that he was having issues with chips disappearing.

    2. THE SOFTWARE OWNER along with JOOPII confirmed that he can simply REPLACE my name with any name and create 100% legit looking fake logs that takes him a total of about 5 seconds max. http://pastebin.com/jQypGgDT Oh look you never even had that amount, All well report dismissed along with the other people who have been demanding refunds from Izinc.

    3. You said the time seems "Convient" If your chips randomly stopped allowing you to bet, and was giving you an error, would you not video it in case something happend? It wasn't convenient, it was smart.

    4. Give me one good explaination, Why Izinc has contradicted the amounts i've gambled and where THREE times now. Not Once, Not Twice, But THREE Times he has failed to get the correct amount of his faked logs. This is because he forgot which amount was lost where after he checked the "logs" that he created/replaced the names of.

    5. There is much more evidence presented on my side, then Izincs, If he believed I had edited it out, why would he Instantly just block me from skype before confronting/pursuing the issue?

    If you can't see the facts, you're blind. People have been complaining for so long about the loss of chips and Izinc refuses to do anything to compensate. I was the lucky few who actually had some sort of evidence in the matter. The fact is, he's able to remove chips from peoples account in a matter of seconds, and with him being able to manipulate the logs, he can do this to anyone he wants and get away with it because he can provide "logs" of "everything"
     
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    So basically, you created the video and edited the displayed balance to recreate the situation that your claiming occurred?
    I'm trying to understand the difference between what balance is displayed in the video (unless that is irrelevant), and the amounts/logs that iZinC provided.
    I'm not saying the chat logs can't be faked...
    I would contact the Owner of the site seeking an explanation to what occurred, as I wouldn't be able to make a video recreating the situation...

    What I would do in this situation is irrelevant anyways.
    How much RSGP have you deposited on BigBoiBets in total?
    The only evidence you've provided is not valid.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Aug 13, 2014 at 7:36 PM
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    No, I didn't re-create the video, that video is what was occurring, at that time... The difference between the balance in the video is, either there was a system error as Izinc claims, or he is removing chips from peoples accounts for increased profits. The amount in the video was the REAL balance I had at that time. The logs he provided aren't logs of my dicing/poker history as I have stated so many times over. Before contacting the owner, I figured it would be a good idea to have a video of the incident, I video'd the fact I had the currency, and the bet wasn't working. Upon relogging my chips had been reset/taken/glitched or whatever else Izinc comes up with. The total amount i've deposited is unknown to me, I've had well over 800m total deposited, and before the Joopii/Izinc split, well over 3b at that time had been transfered in/out of my account. You keep claiming there's no "Evidence" yet there's nothing to prove Izinc hasn't manipulated anything. In literally a matter of seconds he could flip every log of a player as he has done here and I have proven that. I have evidence I had the chips at the time, I have evidence that the chips magically vanished, that he blocked me from skype before explaining anything, and that other people have had the same issue. I'm not sure what you expect of me, did you want me to have a video of the last month of me doing absolutely everything? I have provided everything I can at this point and I feel it's plenty to prove the issue. There's no way you can explain how Izinc can't keep his damn numbers straight, he claimed the amounts on the email, and when recreating them inside the logs made a critical error. Then when his math was off, he upped the amount that was clearly not shown in the pictures he provided. It's all to convenient for him, and I would like another mod's opinion on the matter. Not that I don't appreciate your help, but I don't think you quite are connecting the dots of everything.
     
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    Requested another Staff member's opinion.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Aug 14, 2014 at 1:12 AM
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    I will be upgrading my Gyazo to "Ninja" to allow me to access old Gyazo links, I believe there are screenshots with Date/time of me playing poker and winning hands that i've had that will contradict his "logs" and prove that he replaced the names inside the logs. This post will be updated If/When I get access to this information, in the meantime please leave this appeal open.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Aug 14, 2014 at 2:25 PM
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    Hey Ryan, thanks for the add-on, the more Izinc pets the merrier!

    As for this concern, He has two major flaws in his theory... 1st of all, upon just trying this literally 2 minutes ago, The second you login to the 2nd screen you INSTANTLY get a error and it disconnects you on the first screen. This means it's not possible, along with that, if he's claiming I had the chips, that would totally contradict the "logs" provided by Izinc, At this point once i'm off work in about 6 hours i'll be posting any Gyazo screenshots I have saved that should contradict the "logs" Izinc has offered. Whilst this may not prove 100% that I had the chips... It would prove Izinc lied and attempted to tamper with the evidence, meaning he would likely be guilty given the other evidence presented. Will update this post soon. Thanks for patience.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Sep 3, 2014 at 2:12 PM
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    Closing this due to Jiffy's circumstances above for staff. Will unarchive if he chooses to show interest in Sythe again.
     
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