Mods and ranks need some serious change in security

Seeing a thread like this pisses me off to no end: http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer-archive/1737721-leanbean901-global-mod-scammer-2000-a.html

I'm holding a grudge because I feel that this whole thing reeks of bullshit, and I'm trying to prove in ways I can. Which is essentially none. The staff apparently seem fine with just calling it "hacked" and leaving it alone. Whether or not he was, this whole thing needs closer examination, which I hope my thread will bring. The main thing I was looking for was exposure, not trying to crack the case myself. From what I've heard from somebody the truth will come out tomorrow so I guess we'll see. I feel that the exposure is enough, not going to try to explain more stuff that I don't know nor care to find out.

EDIT 7/26/14: Lol you guys are arguing about day old shit. I changed my post because after this got the attention I wanted it to, it was time to focus on finding the real issue. Not bicker about Skype hacks in the past, or PMs. Also, I was doing a poor job of making clear the true issue. I guess it didn't really work out though. How about we move onto the real issues such as the fact that Leanbean conveniently doesn't have the email for the info change, because he made the Skype on a throwaway email that he forgot the info. How fucking legit is that? Seems like every time Leanbean is asked to provide anything at all to show he was hacked he can't for one unprovable reason or another, gee seems trustworthy.

YEAH OK SKYPES CAN BE HACKED, how about if your stuff gets compromised you put a little effort in and take a tiny bit of responsibility to clear your name. I know if I was a $1000 donor and moderator, I wouldn't just have a bunch of dumb fucking excuses as to why I can't show a single shred of proof that would make this blow over.

By your guys logic I can just take the cash and run each time someone has the audacity to forget to PM me for a trade, no matter when they last PMed me. That doesn't sound like a great system to me.

I understand you request a PM but there are way to many inconsistencies in Leanbeans story to just plug your ears and say, "LALALA DIDNT REQUEST PM LALALA."

Unrelated: Lean from the get go hasn't offered so much as an apology or any sympathy for what has happened. Even before this shitstorm. Kind of funny that he keeps saying I'm degrading his character when it doesn't seem like he has much at all.


Straight off the Official Sythe.org Rules -

I don't see anything saying in text, "Before every trade." Was that just some unspoken rule added that everyone now backs up? If so, then how are new users expected to know this? Official rules should not be open to interpretation. Leanbean has confirmed that method of communication at least less than a month ago, possibly even as recent as a week ago to the same user who was scammed. That's assuming his claim of PMing before every trade he makes is true.

 

Staff and highly reputable members of Sythe are often targets for hackers. While there is always a possibility of most trying to pull the stunt you just explained, you can't prove it without proof. I do feel like better security measures need to be taken if you fall in one of those two categories.

 

Nothing you can do can prevent your skype from being hacked. If a hacker wants to gain access to your account they will. It has nothing to do with how secure you are, or how hard you make your password.

 

But people are still responsible for their accounts, aren't they?

 

I'm holding a grudge because I feel that this whole thing reeks of bullshit, and I'm trying to prove in ways I can. Which is essentially none. The staff apparently seem fine with just calling it "hacked" and leaving it alone. Whether or not he was, this whole thing needs closer examination, which I hope my thread will bring. The main thing I was looking for was exposure, not trying to crack the case myself. From what I've heard from somebody the truth will come out tomorrow so I guess we'll see. I feel that the exposure is enough, not going to try to explain more stuff that I don't know nor care to find out.

 

You clearly don't know how the skype recovery system works, or what type of person I am so I'll just refrain from responding to your degrading and insulting posts.

 

I'm holding a grudge because I feel that this whole thing reeks of bullshit, and I'm trying to prove in ways I can. Which is essentially none. The staff apparently seem fine with just calling it "hacked" and leaving it alone. Whether or not he was, this whole thing needs closer examination, which I hope my thread will bring. The main thing I was looking for was exposure, not trying to crack the case myself. From what I've heard from somebody the truth will come out tomorrow so I guess we'll see. I feel that the exposure is enough, not going to try to explain more stuff that I don't know nor care to find out.

 

If this is the case, a different and more secure service should be used. Skype has proven to lack proper security, and with all staff members using it, it spells danger to this community.

Requesting users to pm before a trade is not mandatory, nor will it always be done. Considering you already pmed him before about the trade and being you're a moderator and all, he should be exempted. $2,000 is no small amount and I definitely see the problem with staff viewing it as something miniscule.

So as long as someone gets hacked and didn't undergo the pm procedure are they also exempted from any damages the victim received? If so, this is a problem that needs to be fixed.

 

I'm holding a grudge because I feel that this whole thing reeks of bullshit, and I'm trying to prove in ways I can. Which is essentially none. The staff apparently seem fine with just calling it "hacked" and leaving it alone. Whether or not he was, this whole thing needs closer examination, which I hope my thread will bring. The main thing I was looking for was exposure, not trying to crack the case myself. From what I've heard from somebody the truth will come out tomorrow so I guess we'll see. I feel that the exposure is enough, not going to try to explain more stuff that I don't know nor care to find out.

 

I've proven all I need to prove to the other staff on this site regarding the situation. It's a commonly known practice to always request a PM to make sure the person you're talking to is who they say they are. I'm not going to take responsibility for something that is the responsibility of the skype recovery team to be held responsible for. If you must know I do plan on pursuing those responsible of the recovery system at skype and will include multiple other standpoints from people who have experienced the same issues in regard to the recovery systems of skype. I'm going to seek injunction and request skype have a more secure recovery system, as well as refund those who have had monetary damages caused to them.

The reality of the matter is if you're a target with regard to skype you will be hacked, nothing you can do will prevent this, so why should you be held responsible?

 

I never PMed him about the trade, the PM shown was for a $1,500 trade from a month ago. Since then I have redeemed over $3,500 at one time from the same user without issue.

 

I'm holding a grudge because I feel that this whole thing reeks of bullshit, and I'm trying to prove in ways I can. Which is essentially none. The staff apparently seem fine with just calling it "hacked" and leaving it alone. Whether or not he was, this whole thing needs closer examination, which I hope my thread will bring. The main thing I was looking for was exposure, not trying to crack the case myself. From what I've heard from somebody the truth will come out tomorrow so I guess we'll see. I feel that the exposure is enough, not going to try to explain more stuff that I don't know nor care to find out.

 

Please understand there was no breach in my security, or negligence on my part in any way. There was a breach in skypes recovery system and negligence on their employees part.

It doesn't matter if skype is a big company and I'm just a person. With the proper evidence and guidance much larger cases have been won.

 

There's 2 FA. Only reason I gave the green flag for the unban is because I neglected to get a PM before the actual trade. That piece was my fault.


Addition:

Overall I think it speaks levels to your character leanbean901, that you've yet to so much as apologize. It seems to be 0 accountability on your part.

 

I'm holding a grudge because I feel that this whole thing reeks of bullshit, and I'm trying to prove in ways I can. Which is essentially none. The staff apparently seem fine with just calling it "hacked" and leaving it alone. Whether or not he was, this whole thing needs closer examination, which I hope my thread will bring. The main thing I was looking for was exposure, not trying to crack the case myself. From what I've heard from somebody the truth will come out tomorrow so I guess we'll see. I feel that the exposure is enough, not going to try to explain more stuff that I don't know nor care to find out.

 

Just got home and have no real knowledge of this case but in the past someone paid Skype livechat agents to give them access to a trusted members account. Not defending anything just educating newer users how people have done it in the past.

 

I'm holding a grudge because I feel that this whole thing reeks of bullshit, and I'm trying to prove in ways I can. Which is essentially none. The staff apparently seem fine with just calling it "hacked" and leaving it alone. Whether or not he was, this whole thing needs closer examination, which I hope my thread will bring. The main thing I was looking for was exposure, not trying to crack the case myself. From what I've heard from somebody the truth will come out tomorrow so I guess we'll see. I feel that the exposure is enough, not going to try to explain more stuff that I don't know nor care to find out.

 

if anyone with a skype is a target, Why doesnt big buyers like r2p, Arcus or others get hacked? but instead they target leanbean?

Heck if the hackers wanted to profit of a hacking (obv reason to hack) why not hack an admin?

I think there is more to it then what the staff is selling us but what do i know? im just a nobody.

 

I see you aren't aware of Ooga and his past. To my knowledge he essentially had livechat operators on payroll pretty much. It doesn't take much money to convince a person living and working in a third world country to do that kind of thing for you. Hell I mean they bear no responsibility generally but they have the ability to give other people the ability to reset passwords.

Skype hackings are an ever-present thing. Read the announcements and you will see a large seller being targeted weekly. R2P mostly uses his livechat for trading and that is why you don't see him being hit. If he gets hit then it doesn't make a difference because his livechat is where is trading is based. Always request a PM, especially if a trade is too good to be true.

 

Live agents reset passwords not give them out and the average Skype livechat agent can reset passwords as its a simple thing that occurs all the time. It wouldn't take much money for a livechat gent o be corrupted considering they don't make much. Either way not saying this was the case for this one but it has happened in the past.

R2p has been hacked more times then the average sythe user can count but like Nero said since he switched to livechat they kinda gave up on his Skype.