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That's fine. It's not too big of a deal anyways. But I agree. It's their money. They are only hurting themselves. Let them do what they will do.

 

Going off what I think is right
People should be able to pay others to do homework but not major assignments.
Some things like an essay or research paper is plagiarism and is not allowed on sythe

 

We care about plagiarism only if it is on Sythe.

 

That is far too complicated to try and regulate, better to just not get involved.

What I've been hoping for is that the rule just gets removed and no more thought id paid toward it.

 

I've already expressed my opinion on this subject on OP's other thread. But I'd just like to chip in again.

While this is slightly off-topic it's keeping in the with the theme of the discussion so far, regarding how eduction affects your future career and whether OP paying someone to do a BS assignment is going to be significantly detrimental.

Short answer, in my humble opinion, is no. It isn't. I can relate to OP quite well as I too studied in the UK, understand how the system works and agree that over half of the material covered in first-year (which doesn't count toward the final classification) is completely irrelevant both in the chosen industry and the degree itself.

During my degree (Web Design and Development BSc) I covered Psychology, Business, English, Graphic Design and General Media... (among other, more useful subjects) All of which I barely use in my profession (Frontend Web Developer) to more than a general-knowledge level which can be acquired elsewhere and is often a pre-requisite of the industry anyway. I can safely say that had I been active on Sythe or had the funds at my disposal I may well have paid someone to do a couple of assignments for me and it not made any difference whatsoever.

It's common knowledge that first years often share modules within faculties because they're somewhat related and these modules primary purpose is to prepare the student for "real academics"; mostly the long study (dissertation).
If said student is confident enough in their own ability I see no reason (morals aside) why that student shouldn't take OP's perspective, after-all, they're paying for the degree and can weigh up the pros and cons themselves.

As it was previously mentioned (and I completely agree with Mohtasa here, the majority of Sythe users spend their time and money here to cut corners one way or another, whether it's by providing an alternative income to the "real world" or subsidise their time spent on games, the common objective is the same.

Will be interesting to read a staff perspective here, I for one can't see any major/obvious problems in allowing users to exchange services here like any other.

 

If we allow this wouldn't it be happening on sythe? People pay for others thoughts/ideas and claiming it as their own
And if that is the case why do we ban people for only offsite malicious activity? Plagiarism, scamming, and other malicious activity all display bad character

Removing it to allow essays/research papers would make more sense but how would things like stolen guides be handled?

 

^ The same way stolen gaming accounts or stolen currency is handled. An offence is an offence, and like you said, recognising bad character traits are great ways of preventing these offences from occurring.

 

I don't get the rule either tbh. Sythe forum shouldn't be acting as a mother figure. If someone wants to buy their homework they are cheating themselves out of their education just like botters are cheating themselves out of playing experience; their decision to make.

 

They aren't claiming them as their own on Sythe.

 

If removing the rule is no problem then sure why not. Was just worried about the inconsistency

They aren't scamming on sythe either but still get banned because they did off site

 

And I personally don't care. But even so, plagiarism is different. They are not lying to us. They are lying to their teacher or what not. I do not see how that can harm Sythe in any way.

 

Moot point. It's not plagiarism if the author of the paper signs over copyrights to the person paying them to write the paper.

Plagiarism is only a problem when the author's work is unknowingly stolen. Besides, if someone tried to slam you for plagiarism, you'd probably be in more trouble for cheating on your major assignment.

IN WHICH CASE, EVERY BIT OF THE RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON THE PERSON PAYING. They know what they're signing up for, they're doing it willingly, and sythe is in no position to be people's mothers by telling them not to cheat in school.

 

Okay for a second here don't see me as a sythe mod this is not my "what's best for sythe" opinion.

Personally as a hard working student giving it my all everyday for my grade, it is fairly sad to see a student attempting to cheat their way through an assignment. Ultimately if you're cheating yourself out of classes that will later just escalate (i.e getting someone to do your Calculus work) it will catch up to you and you will most likely just flunk out. The problem occurs on majors that won't catch up to you and you can scrape by simply by letting others do your work for you and that in my opinion is morally wrong. I won't name those majors as I don't wish to offend anyone but I know personally it would be very difficult to get through my classes while cheating in the way you guys proposed since exams would essentially fuck you anyway.

I'm not sure what my exact stance is on whether or not I want it to stay banned just a brief opinion on where I stand personally. My opinion on whether or not it will better the site will be coming later.

 

Someone who scams/hacks offsite but does legit business here. It should work the same for plagiarism. No harm to sythe but it says the rule is there because it says something about your character. Like stated before if the plagiarism rule is gone then there is no issue.

I guess I see what you mean how plagiarism isn't that high of an offense

It's not about the customer knowing the consequences

Correct me if i'm wrong but don't you still need to reference/credit the creator? If someone gave me a painting saying I own it. Sure I could sell it, destroy it, or build on it but isn't it not ok to say I'am the original artist?

 

I'm totally not for cheating but I don't think Sythe should be enforcing morals.

 

Especially considering luring is aloud here lol.

 

Anything is OK with express consent from the original writer/artist/whatever. Copyright infringement is only pursued by the one who holds the copyright. An instructor cannot bust you for copyright infringement when the one who wrote the paper isn't pressing charges. He CAN bust you for cheating, but sythe = cheating, and we shouldn't regulate that. Even outside of videogames.

 

Plagiarism that is sanctioned by both parties is a victimless crime.

 

As an online community we're suppost to encourage each other not to take shortcuts and cheat the system.

The victim in this case would be whoever is cheating themselves out of the knowledge they may need in the future.

Helping with homework for free is fine, but to charge for an act of kindness doesn't make sense to me.

 

One can't be persecuted for intentionally harming themselves.