Best way out of bronze

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Best way out of bronze
  1. Unread #1 - Feb 1, 2014 at 11:59 PM
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    Best way out of bronze

    I know im better then a bronze player and my mechanics have improved leaps and bounds. Im winning more then i lose and more times then not i usually carry, but i cant get outta bronze. The absolute trash that lingers in bronze costs me so many games. The epic amount of feeding, trolling and afking is unreal. Whats the best way to get out of bronze? 2 weeks before reset i started my rank career and was placed in silver 1. I wasnt able to advance but i never dropped rank. When they reset the ranks and i had to start over i ended up bronze due to bad teams overall. I need help i cant stand it any longer. No1 wards, covers lanes or takes objectives (turrets, dragon etc) There all so stuck on chasing kills. Dont even get me started on M.I.A. pings, absolute joke...

    tl:dr even tho im a 10x better player then i was in silver 1 now i cant make it outta bronze hell since reset. HELP ME
     
  3. Unread #2 - Feb 2, 2014 at 12:30 AM
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    Best way out of bronze

    To put it bluntly, if you can't get higher, you deserve to be there.

    However, the easiest way I find to carry games is playing a strong roaming mid champ, which allows you to help your other lanes. This doesn't mean you neglect your lane, it means you push your lane up, ward constantly, and look for opportunities to make plays either bot or top (bot preferred for me). Champs such as, Gragas, Ziggs, Kat, Kayle, Oriana, Ahri, Syndra, Lux, Zed, Kha etc.

    You could also play a strong early influential jungler, and or one that scales well into lategame. I.e, Kha, Elise, Lee and Vi.

    However, the higher you progress, the more aware your opponents will be, and roaming wont be that easy. They will counter ward, and counter gank nearly every time, and or secure objectives. However, in bronze>gold, I find that everyone has zero map awareness and roaming is quite easy.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Feb 2, 2014 at 12:39 AM
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    Ignore sellerman. Don't play an assassin just to climb out of bronze. Find your role that you like, and use the opportunity in bronze to learn to correct all of your mistakes.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Feb 2, 2014 at 12:44 AM
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    He asked how to get out of bronze, not how to become mechanically sound with his most preferred champ (even though they both go in tangent).

    @hattez

    The easiest way to climb, leaving all else irrelevant is by playing an influential role/champ, that effects early game and shapes mid-late game to your advantage.

    If you ask any of the boosters out there, all will tell you the same.

    However, if you want to build from a proper foundation, and overall improve your mechanics and skill, it will take longer, and will really only come by playing more games, watching streams and taking note of your own mistakes before others.

    (coming from a d2 player).
     
  9. Unread #5 - Feb 2, 2014 at 2:12 AM
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    Playing an assassin is good when you're already good. Playing it when you're learning yields weak results. Plus, it's not as amazing to instalock an assassin every game in high gold. Learning the meta and the game is much better instead.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Feb 2, 2014 at 2:15 AM
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    I thought we were talking about bronze?

    I agree with sellerman. Play a mid who you're good with that can snowball other lanes and can heavily influence your entire team. Also, blaming others leads to nowhere. The biggest difference i've seen from bronze / silver to mid plat is people saying "KS" or blaming their team members. People make mistakes, and i'm 10000% sure you didn't do everything right the entire game. Reflect on what you could have done better (Positioning, MIA's, if you know the junglers on bot warn them instead of assuming they know)
     
  13. Unread #7 - Feb 2, 2014 at 2:40 AM
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    I'm going to throw out my opinion here, which includes a quick tl;dr on what sellerman and kerokero are thinking.

    Learning how to carry, and learning how the game changes over time (early-mid-late) are both very important concepts that many players have trouble balancing in bronze. I personally say to work on game decisions first, and play the roles you're comfortable with. You can work on mechanics at the same time, but don't do a main role swap because a few sythe members suggested it (feel free to disagree.)

    Anyone is open to disagree/agree with me, no pressure.

    It's 2:40 AM here lol, going to sleep (I've been boosting for 13 hours straight >.>)
     
  15. Unread #8 - Feb 2, 2014 at 4:10 AM
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    Let me start off by saying the 2 things im extremely well at are support and jungle. I usually go thresh or blitz supp rare occasions morgana. Im very good with pulls/hooks and ive actually been catching people with hooks when they flash more and more. Im really aggressive and harass allowing my adc to farm and keeping them from farming. When i play support im never really worried about me. I ward and focus on my lane hoping i have a decent adc to take advantage of hooks and set ups. What im finding out is a fair amount of people dont know how to distinguish between focusing way 2 hard adc and not taking easy support kills. I understand taking out the adc is your main objective, but leaving free kills walk away just to atk the adc is stupid imo. The 2nd biggest issue i have is, if i dont take jungle im never comfortable with whoever is jungling. Im not saying im the best and all that im just confident of my jungling skills and ganking. Why do most junglers in bronze wait till lvl 6 to gank? I dont understand it... My theory is to be completely unpredictable and counter the other jungle (stealing buffs, early invade etc) But i always cover for my lanes and sometimes just throw the occasional harass and pop to allow my lane to recover or win the farm game. Its not always about the kills. Ive been jungler plenty of times and basicly became a glorified support warding and taking objectives. Tell me if im wrong but i value early turrets over early kills. Ive been in a number of games were weve snowballed and gone up 20+ kills only to lose because our greedy team chase's kills and use 0 map awareness allowing turrets to be taken and minions to overwhelm and eventually cost us the game. Ive yet to play mid in ranked i have a odc problem were i like to master 1 position at a time. I find it best to play with someone im good at then try to play match ups, because ive watched a number of people get bullied into taking a "op" player for matchup reasons only to get destroyed. The other major factor is bans in my experience. Whenever i lead and make bans i ask where people prefer to go and who they want banned. I dont auto bans the same people over and over. I feel this creates team friendliness and supports every1. Most others just ban selfishly or auto ban instantly before asking team. Which creates animosity because a persons main is banned etc. The last and final thing that piss's me off is the lack of people who switch players. No1 takes advantage of it in bronze, they auto lock and allow the other team to take the nasus or w/e. Only to find out the guy 2 picks below wanted nasus and had the champ u wanted... They give u 30 secs why not fucking use them and work together? I know this is a huge rant but ive really worked on my mechanics big time and ive put together over 1k matches in a few short months. Ive watched film and studied matches and techniques and want to excel ive already made another account but i dont want to spend a month getting it to lvl 30. But at the rate im going it could be a faster way out of this bronze hell. I can play other positions when needed or asked to and i usually just play it safe and try not to make mistakes. I really do win my lane alot when i support only to lose in the end from lack of team not warding and others going on "solo" missions only to get caught or people attacking 1 at time instead of fighting as a unit.

    p.s. when i throw a fucking lantern allowing u to escape why doesnt any1 fucking use it?
     
  17. Unread #9 - Feb 2, 2014 at 4:38 AM
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    Sorry man, I'd love to help, but that's just unreadable...
     
  19. Unread #10 - Feb 2, 2014 at 5:25 AM
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    Yea, didn't read LOL.

    Btw Hattez, try Leona if you're after lane control/aggressive play. Blitz is a real useless support compared to other ones in this meta. Don't get me wrong, he can be a game changer, and is quite fun, but the higher you go, you'll notice blitz is never a contested ban/pick...unlike thresh/leona.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Feb 2, 2014 at 5:42 AM
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    I got placed in Bronze 3 this season and yesterday I made it to Silver . I mostly played Lucian and Irelia and I improved a lot on toplane and adcarry , I stop flaming at my teammates and I just ignored them in most occasions and just focused on my game . Many times I won a game coming from a 1/14 general score with less towers and stuff.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Feb 2, 2014 at 6:15 AM
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    1: Hoping your adc is gonna be decent isn't gonna guarantee a win, sometimes you should play the carry because they suck, or at least have the option to carry with someone like thresh or just don't pick supp in bronze.

    2: You could buy a level 30 smurf from a trusted member, or pay somebody to power level you whilst you try to climb on your main.

    Over all, I feel like this often, blaming my team and my opinion hasn't changed, but everyone says if you can't get out of bronze, you deserve to be there, and I believe that to an extent. You will never have played a perfect game in all of your wins and losses, so there is always room for improvement, even if you aren't a carry or extremely strong, sometimes dying at the wrong time is enough to lose a game, that's a bit issue I've had.

    You just need to focus and get the whole wanting to climb thing out of your head, just ignore the concept of time and limitations and you will play better, which might increase the chance of winning with or without a shitty team, if it's really that bad you should look into changing who you play because most people who are higher than gold can probably carry a bronze game, if you want to be higher than gold or silver then you should be able to, too.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Feb 2, 2014 at 7:50 AM
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    Hattez, i can 100% gurantee its not your 'amazing hooks', its the fact that bronze adcs cant focus on kiting, farming, poking and dodging hooks all at the same time. Welcome to Bronze.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Feb 2, 2014 at 8:13 AM
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    People that have never been in Bronze don't realise how hard it is.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Feb 2, 2014 at 8:45 AM
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    Started in bronze I -----> bronze V -----> bronze I

    Totally know what you're talking about.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Feb 2, 2014 at 8:46 AM
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    Boosted god knows how many accounts in bronze, I know how it is. Granted my skill cap is far above them, but whether it be bronze or diamond or challenger, if you play above your elo (meaning you deserve to be higher), you will get there.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Feb 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM
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    It's really not as easy as you say. Of course if you're like plat/diamond, it should be really easy to carry bronze games but if you're like gold/silver level you aren't going to be able to just carry that easily. If I'm mundo top and I'm 2-0-1 or something, it's not possible to carry if my bot lane is 2/15 combined and we don't get any dragons.

    I obviously don't go like 21-3 every game but I shouldn't be getting demoted because my teammates can't hold their lanes. It's really frustrating.
     
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    We all get those games where nothing clicks and it's a mess from the get go. I've had those games up to 10 times in a row, shit happens.

    I believe however that if one is deserving of a higher elo, and they play to prove it, they will get there.

    Perfect example can be seen after all the season 4 placement games. Some of my friends who were ex d1/challenger/diamond area ended up low plat/high gold. They're all currently back at d2/on the way there. - Showing that if you constantly play better than the ELO you're in, you will climb.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Feb 2, 2014 at 9:48 AM
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    Best way out of bronze

    I'm not saying that I'm the best person in silver or anything but these games are so annoying. I was just in my promos to gold V, went 0-3 in my series and dropped to 43 points. Lost 3 more games in a row and I get demoted back to silver 2. None of the games I fed or lost lane drastically.

    How do you increase your mmr when you win 2 games in a row then lose 2 games in a row or go on a 4 game losing streak when teammates can't even hold their lanes?

    Also Plat 1 was the highest you could place they are still getting people that were D1/challenger mmr and aren't going to absolutely feed and troll.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Feb 2, 2014 at 10:16 AM
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    Promo games are a silly concept, which most people agree with when discussed (reddit/LoL forums/Pro players).

    Bad luck, nothing more to it I guess.

    Don't understand your last sentence.
     
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