Smaugs Tier Climbing to Diamond 4rm Bronze V

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  1. Unread #21 - Jan 12, 2014 at 10:04 PM
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    I prefer using www.probuilds.net because (A) you see what the pros are building, not what some Wood V kid suggests for a champion, and (B) seeing 12 possible builds allows you to make your own decisions. You should NEVER build the same every game, game after game. It's situational.

    For example, I played Sejuani today and I got 3 successful assist-ganks before my first back. I was snowballing pretty hard, so I took Spirit of the Spectral Wraith instead of Spirit of the Elder Golem. I think every guide ever says SotEG, but with this particular game Elder Wraith gave me more ganking power, which allowed me to use my snowball to continue to snowball my bottom lane. The enemy bot duo was being hyper-aggressive, so with a really safe gank each time (I never had to tower dive), the extra AP gave more damage for the ganks, securing more kills each time. Also the sustain and mana regen allowed me to stay in the jungle longer, continually rotating between my jungle, mid, and bottom to secure a 21 minute surrender. 99% of the time I would NOT build SotSW on her, but for this one game it made sense to do so.
     
  5. Unread #23 - Jan 13, 2014 at 1:52 AM
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    Ye ive heard that before im pretty bad at csing which is why i never play adc but ill work on it but how lol ?

    Pretty nice i get 20 minute games every once in a blue moon.

    Ill be uploading more games soon.
     
  7. Unread #24 - Jan 13, 2014 at 2:32 AM
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    Why wasnt Kassadin banned? the only reason you had a 'strong' early on ryze was because thats where Kassadin is weakest. He has no escape pre-6, you need to take advantage of that and ask your jungler for ganks. You really need to work on your builds. Sheen, no. Mobies, no. Glacial shroud, no. You are a tanky AoE mage. Sorc boots would have helped vs Kassadin if he was destroying you.
     
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    But I though Ryze's Damage was off of mana, wouldn't it be wise to build mana+tank which is what I was building what would you prefer? Also no idea why she was not banned I guess they prefered banning Darius, Nasus and Fizz.
     
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    Yeah, but glacial shroud only builds into frozen heart (not good pick for their comp imo) or iceborn gauntlet. which isnt good on ryze. Sheen is still unjustified:p

    Tell them what to ban. When im banning in ranked i always like to get teammates input. Nasus/Riven should be standard bans at all tiers.
     
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    I'm going to be serious here, you might take it as a flaming but it's beneficial to read on.

    Your flaws list is way... way to short, the amount of mistakes you make per game if pointed out would shock you.

    If you're in Mid, understand a few things before the game even happens.

    Example: I'm Lux Mid, he hard-countered me as Zed mid. I'll find out if he's bad by lvl 1 if he goes up and auto attacks minions. If he uses his w wrongly, I can all-in him pre-6. All of these things matter.

    But firstly, learn how to last hit. With this I mean, not take poke while last hitting. Or, give poke and last hit with AOE spells. A few things you can't let happen is to allow your opposing laner to just get off free hits. You'll notice at Bronze V - everybody allows you to poke them while they CS. Take advantage of that, and you'll snowball the entire game. Don't force kills early, everybody thinks kills win games. No. If you force them out of lane, the experience/cs lead is substantial. If you blow their flash, take it as that. For some reason I see people flashing into their turret, no. Stop. Just save it for the next opportunity. Learn when to play aggro, and when to play passive with sub-par mechanics and you'll be in Gold in no time.

    Another thing, jungle awareness and overall awareness. Is my opposing laner really playing sloppy(everyone at bronze v does so idk about this) - he's usually baiting you into a 1v2 with said jungler there. If you don't have ward coverage spotting them(mostly for top here), don't go in. This is especially true if you have a 1-0 lead on him. Every person in Bronze gets over-zealous anytime they get a lead and misplay over and over then start flaming.

    Just go to twitch.tv and watch how people play, focus on what they do and why... You'll get out of Bronze in no time.
     
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    Im working on my builds this whole week just gonna watch vids and play reg. queue.

    Thats what im going to do this week work on builds and cs'ing wile playing regular queue, wile playing 1 or 2 ranked games per day. I believe I have good jungle awareness but I can work on that to get a lil better as far as times and knowing where the jungler is.




    Just updated Game 4 check it out gimme some feedback
     
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    Why did you build 60% CDR on soraka? CDR maxes out at 40%, the CDR boots were a waste.

    Probuilds is always something i check first. However, when I play a new champ, i always check both solomid & probuilds. Yes, guides at solomid may be made by some wood V (http://www.solomid.net/guide/view/1...c-support-jungle-fighter-by-imainlacritfrenzy ...), there are some good guides by pros that give good explanation that isn't given at probuilds.net. For example, when I learned to play Annie support, Xpecial's guide helped me out a lot.

    Just my 2 cents. It's never bad to check out guides at solomid, as well as probuilds, as long as they have some form of proof/evidence (match history etc).
     
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    Ye I have no idea why I did that you just brought it to my attention to be honest I didn't even notice that.


    Updated Game 5 Nasus Jungle Lemme know what you guys think.


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    Feedback:

    Don't play Nasus jungle.


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    Explanation:
    [You refers to Nasus, not you personally]
    1. You can't get nearly as Q-farmed. The jungle Q farm is, at best, half of what it would be in lane.
    2. Your clears are way slower than the current tier of good junglers.
    3. Your ganks are way weaker than the current tier of good junglers.
    4. Sure you can dragon at 6, but nobody understands that in Bronze. If you do Dragon at 6, your team won't be willing to back you up in case you get dived.
    5. He's C-tier at best. Sure he's safe, but he offers no real early game aggression OR late game potential that others do.
     
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    What he said.

    By the 10 minute mark you should be between 60-80 creep at least. You're ending the game with that after 39 minutes, which means you have no gold, which means you were doing practically no damage.

    1 Kill is what, 200g or something? 10 cs is more than that. So for every 10 cs, think of it as a kill.

    Creeping is a major difference from low to high elo. Focus on that rather than roaming aimlessly wasting time.

    Nexus > Objectives > Baron / Drag > Creep > Kills imo. Obviously circumstantial, but, yeah.
     
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    1 kill is 300 gold if the person is not on a kill/death spree. Plus the 150 extra gold split between the assists, it makes 450 gold or approximately 22 cs.

    It's not quite as dramatic as Ract said, but the point is still valid: CS wins games; kills are mostly to establish momentum for taking objectives. Kills before 10-15 minutes rarely impact the endgame, since it's hard to push an objective without grouping. If you die 3 times in lane but still keep up in CS, your team's gold disadvantage is minimal. It is hard to lane against someone who is ahead, but I've found the best thing to do here is to remain patient and keep your composure. If you can't CS, at least be in lane to absorb EXP from the minions.


    Interesting tidbit: Pro mids go 90-100+ CS by 10 minutes, but that's perfect CS. If you are really disgustingly good, you can get perfect CS in lane and roam to your wraiths to get another ~15-20 CS by 10 minutes for a max of 120. I think the best I've ever seen (in screenshots) was 130, where the person took wolves, wraiths, and minion waves.
     
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    Sorry but while nexus and towers should be priority the rest is completely situational. I wouldn't follow a list but rather learn to balance kills and cs out while maintaining map pressure.
     
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    I suggest that you change your support champion pool. Lux only has snares and slows. Annie beats her damage-wise. Karma's shield is much better. Her E gives vision, which is good, but damage-wise, not good. Her ultimate offers no utility and is really only effective in the jungle.

    Morgana's W is completely useless. You aren't always gonna have the enemy stand in one place. Her Q is only a snare as well, although a pretty long one. Her ultimate is quite strong but it takes too long for the stun to take effect, and if you dive in the middle against an AoE team for example, you're going to get wrecked because you might not have Zhonya's (especially if you are behind). Her E is strong against Leona, Annie, etc but because of the problems that I just mentioned, I personally think that she's weak.

    For now, I do recommend that you follow pro builds. Eventually, you'll develop a sense of what one should build even on unfamiliar champions. You might not be right all the time, but you can always go and check what others build.

    Don't just play the "OP" champions. Play what you enjoy. And play 'em well.
     
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    Ill see what I can do with character rotations, I have jax I jungle pretty good with him but ill have to find a pretty good build because I dont really know what his ult does.

    Gotcha

    Damn thats a load of cs im usually only at about 60 in 10 minutes or less than that so CS is something I need to work on. (noted) thanks.

    Gotcha I usually try and take down turrents when jungling with Nasus and Jax but I usually do not gank much because whenever I show myself on the lane I want it to be a killing gank or a game changer what you think?

    I have done that already within the last day im now training with Sorako and Leona I received some feedback about that yesterday and ive started training with some other supports im starting to feel comfortable with Sorako but not quite with leona yet.
     
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