Banned from a subsection

No Support.
If you don't like it, don't get banned from the section.

 

So you believe something like voting syed in every category in a popularity thread, where the the overall motm is the only person to get a reward, is enough for a 1 month ban? As if I was intentionally trying to get myself banned from that section. But if I put syed as overall and listed other names for the sections of motm, should I still be banned? At most one could say I crossed the line, but punishing me like that is too much if you wont at least let me at least read the content, of course I wouldnt be able to post.

Im not trying to get unbanned, even though someone already did that, Im pointing out how something so insignificant got me a section ban. I see this happening a lot more if what I did warranted a month long section ban. And in my activity since I posted this I needed to use it twice, both times to give my input on a suggestion and feedback. As if I want to use it for my own self gain, rather than me trying to give my opinion in the threads that are made to better the site.

You are giving me the same argument moes gave me. All I wanted was ease of access to the section, banning me from posting would be perfectly fine for me. But there are useful threads in there, and I didnt think I would even go there for a month, till I got a bit more active and needed it. It works like this in reddit as syed said. What harm can I do reading?

Im not saying every case will be like mine, Im saying there will be a few like mine and possibly a few more that ends up worse. But right now I cant give the input I want, that is used to better the site, properly. If what you and moes are trying to tell me I should just stay away from the suggestion and feedback thread for a whole month, tell me straight up. There are information in that section that I base my posts on. There are threads there that are useful to the market and other sections. Being able to read it might potentially prevent a scam, be able to give an opinion better or something or help an individual out. Another example is someone asks about skype, wouldnt it be better if you pointed them to chloe's guide on how to keep it safe? At least being able to read the threads youd still serve some sort of punishment and be able to put good use of the section, whether it helps yourself out, someone else, or the site.

 

Being banned from a section is a punishment. Why would make it easier for the person being punished?

 

For something that petty? How about because it's too harsh? Especially when it can conflict in a user's ability to help, provide feedback, suggest or use for self gain. What else can you do by being able to read that section? The closest example I can think of that relates is a wreckless driver. He gets his license suspended and he cannot ride any other kinds of vehicle, be it a cab or a lift from his wife. Making him walk is excessive, but why make it easier for the person being punished? Thats your argument?

Moes didnt say he switched boats, but he didnt think it was fair I got a month long subsection ban. His point was it didnt seem fair for the people that really deserves it. And I say if I got a month for something like that, there would be a lot of bans he wouldnt believe is fair either.

Im just repeating myself in the end. I dont know if you are ignoring my points, at least address them. Im getting sick of these types of arguments, this is something moes just gave me too much of in the first page, but coming from you even after I went over it is a surprise to me to say the least. Why say exactly what he did, when I answered him several times. Ill say it again, future section bans, not everyone will think/know about logging out. It hinders them.

Just in case you continue like that. An alternative suggestion would be to make the section bans not as long, a month is overkill. Or at least make it harder to get than posting on a simple popularity contest thread. But in the end that means staff and admin dont agree on something, which is a rare occurrence for me. Which is also why I took the liberty of assuming it would be agreed on to prevent any conflict between staff. Take your pick.

Once again, please guys no more 1 line arguments unless it expands on itself and has a relevant point that I havent already explained. Im tired of repeating what I already mentioned in this thread and last post, spending enough time typing it on an ipad, and having more thought put into it.

 

I am ignoring your points.
This thread is about subjection bans, not your ban.

 

I never made it about my ban, I thought I clarified this more than once in this thread already. Ive said more than once that I used it as an example how something this small already leads to a month long section ban. How easy it was to get and how harsh it turned out to be. At least being able to read that section, you serve a form of punishment and can still do good to yourself, others or the site. At least tell me the worse someone can do from reading. I have given my points on how they can help if they could at least read.

 

Great idea, if a user gets a ban from a section, it is because of their posts. Shouldn't stop them being able to VIEW things.

 

Why not be able to view you can do shit by looking aint like you killing anything damn my nigga!

 

Exactly my point if it is an easy implement, if anything, they could help.

I was afraid that users would have to actually get the ban to realize this. And Ive been unbanned since yesterday, no clue by who, so this isn't me trying to get out.

 

Nigga wtf that's like being grounded from being outside but not being able to look out the window it makes no fucking sense nigga. Anyways since people seem to be dumb fucks just log out and look at the forum and then log back in quick fix some people are just as dumb as there usernames.

* note before I get forum banned the above statement was not thrown at a specific person it was said in general for the record*

 

I understand this, mentioned it and how not everyone would even think about doing it.

 

Grounding a child is not the same as banning someone from a section on a forum. Don't get into a situation where you're banned from a section and you won't have to deal with the problem. It's as simple as that.

 

Of course, this went ignored and you picked an argument you preferred.

 

You assumed I was talking to you.
I wasn't.

 

No I didnt, which is why I quoted my own post saying you ignored it again. That post is the main point of this suggestion. I mean whats the point of posting here if you choose to pick on someone else's argument instead of the op who is making the suggestion? It doesnt make sense that you see an easy argument, ignore the rest and attack that. He was expanding on my point, where he gave an answer slightly off. Would be better to tackle the main point than just something that originated from it.

 

And I've already given you my argument.
It's a punishment, if they don't like it, then tough. Don't get banned and you're all good.

 

Are you serious? I gave my argument, someone expands on it wrongly and you argue against him over me? Why would you even bother arguing against someone that expands on a point when you can hit 2 birds with 1 stone by arguing against the main point.

And my argument is just because they're punished, why stop them from being able to do good? Ive listed the pros of being able to just read in a sub section and not be able to post. What about the cons? Are there any? Can you list any? I cant think of any as to why not.

Ill say it again, the comm general has some useful threads that can help the user himself, other users and possibly help sythe benefit by giving their insight on some threads.

Prisoners can do good and help out, in some places they reduce their time as well, which personally I think is great if they are helping out. With this suggestion you wont even be reducing time, or are you going to stick to that argument that they are punished and they shouldnt be able to help the city. Here is a perfect example:
http://www.euronews.com/2012/07/11/brazil-inmates-cycle-to-freedom-by-generating-electricity/

I seriously keep coming back to this thread in hopes of you giving me a decent argument, I was disappointed every time. All you have done so far is do what moes did on the first page.

 

Stay on topic. If you're not going to post something relevant to the OP, don't post. Thanks.

 

In my opinion if you're banned from an important section such as community general where "where did this person go" could potentially save you from being scammed it is important to have access to those sections without posting privledges. Some examples of sub sections where umbrella bans (no posting or viewing) should occur are things like general discussion or things like the sandbox or graphics gallery if you're spamming or disrupting the sections as no relevant site information is there. Just my opinion.

 

Not only can it save you from being scammed, it can helps others and the site too. A few days ago I was posting my opinion on a feedback and suggestion thread, little did I realize there were threads in the comm gen that I could have found useful when posting my opinion at that time. I mean I could and didnt care that I was banned, in fact I told the staff that banned me at that time that in the end I didnt care. But when it hindered giving my opinions on threads that benefited the site? Made me suggest this.