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  1. Unread #121 - Jun 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM
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    If its LACKS IMMATURITY that means that the community and staff are very mature.

    Regardless, as far as I'm concerned the staff is fine, but at the end of the day we all make mistakes.
     
  3. Unread #122 - Jun 9, 2013 at 2:07 PM
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    Why do you continue to post in this thread? What you are posting is now completely irrelevant. If you have feedback for another mod make a new thread. Assuming you are talking about me, you are just ignorant. You've come to the conclusion that I am young and immature because I am in school. Ever thought that I attend university?
     
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    Judging by the case, shouldn't firez have simply taken a screenshot of the PM that allegedly contained him being called a faggot? If the date is before the first ban....then that proves Magic's Point...
     
  7. Unread #124 - Jun 9, 2013 at 2:28 PM
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    The problem I see is FireZ didn't admit his mistake and instead did what Finn did and continued to state he was right even though he had no proof of a pm being sent after Marrow's unban.

    N4N0 unbanned Marrow after 2 pms being sent so unless a 3rd pm was sent after the unban then Marrow shouldn't have been banned again. If you were going to ban Marrow for a month over 2 pms then you should have done that from the beginning but it looks more like you wanted Marrow to serve his first ban and then you were going to reban him for the 2nd pm after his unban. When asked for proof you should have posted it and if you didn't have it then admitted your fault but you did exactly what Finn did and said your word was more important than Govind checking pms and N4N0 unbanning him for the previous pms.
     
  9. Unread #125 - Jun 9, 2013 at 3:17 PM
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    But the problem is who's mature enough to admit they made a mistake.
     
  11. Unread #126 - Jun 9, 2013 at 4:14 PM
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    How is your online/personal relationship with FireZ even relevant to this thread lol?

    Not all at lmao. Can you give show us some specific examples of this? In fact, just the opposite happened when that knobhead guy posted his disputes some weeks ago.

    Was Viou "shady as hell"? No. He was probably one of the most legitimate traders ever to be on this site, and not only was his pardon shot down instantly, but he was also insulted in the process if I recall.

    Uhh what? Has it ever crossed your mind that people who tend to complain about FireZ's actions/atitude perhaps want to shed light on the topic at hand or/and give him legitimate feedback? I know it's hard to believe, but not everyone on this forum are brown-nosers and suck-ups like you Laptop.
     
  13. Unread #127 - Jun 9, 2013 at 4:52 PM
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    Everyone else is going on about how they're always having issues with him and his behaviour. I was stating that in the length of time I'd known him I've had zero problems with him.

    And we don't really have any 'relationship'. We talk now and again on Skype but that's about it.

    Examples of what exactly?

    And how do you mean with the 'knobhead' guy disputes a few weeks back?

    Well I'd say knowingly dealing in stolen goods is shady yeah. Dunno what the law is like in your country but in most of them knowingly dealing stolen goods is illegal.

    Yes, but not like this. And just because someone sides with the staff doesn't make them a suck up.
     
  15. Unread #128 - Jun 9, 2013 at 4:52 PM
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    Optikal I'm sorry but you're just butthurt that KMJT and FireZ didn't want you unbanned due to what you did.
    That is just so obvious, everyone else here has some sort of a *real* opinion.
     
  17. Unread #129 - Jun 9, 2013 at 5:04 PM
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    I don't know if there was a staff lounge discussion and this is a mute point. From what I can see, this seems like a case of miscommunication between N4n0 and FireZ not corruption. N4n0 shouldn't have overridden another administrator's (especially a more-senior administrator) ban without talking to him.

    A number of posts here mention Firez's punctuality(or lack thereof). FireZ and I were promoted to administrators on the same day with FireZ being more of a workhorse while I handled the community issues like this. He's certainly improved over time, and his benefit to the site vastly outweighs his occasional poor word choice.

    Throughout the years, these issues continue to appear because of the level of superiority staff have over regular users. As a result of this superiority complex, there's increased scrutiny and judgment. There are ways to mitigate the issue and put staff on a more level playing field. For instance, have all staff use the same color on the username list regardless of rank. Don't allow staff without the proper donation rank to have usernames/titles/ etc.The way modscores are conducted could be adjusted as well. Not only would you look more unified but more regular.

    The obvious response (and one I've used) is that these privileges are rewards for being staff. However, do we really want staff who seek out privileges to elevate themselves?
     
  19. Unread #130 - Jun 9, 2013 at 5:07 PM
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    Specific examples of us "crying" when he's mean in a dispute obviously...

    I forget what the words were, but FireZ essentially told that knobhead guy to "fuck off". Instead of "crying", people actually found it hilarious and made fun of this. There was no "thread about it in staff feedback a few hours later".

    Oh, here we go with the whole Viou saga/debate again...

    Okay Laptop65...
     
  21. Unread #131 - Jun 9, 2013 at 5:12 PM
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    Perfect! You should re-instate yourself as admin! Wow, you legend. Staff do think that they are higher up because a bit of power they have. Well said.

    Also yes staff shouldn't get to have custom user titles they haven't donated shit. Some people donate $300 and that is a lot of money. They deserve perks, not staff who think they deserve it all. I'm not hitting out at every member of staff by the way. Just saying.
     
  23. Unread #132 - Jun 9, 2013 at 5:12 PM
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    okay, seems everything having their own stories about Firez this and that, can we seriously stick up into a point what the real story is.

    this is more getting into a fight area
     
  25. Unread #133 - Jun 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM
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    http://www.sythe.org/individual-staff-feedback/1485020-firez-feedback-thread.html

    Quite a lot of posts of people moaning about it in there.

    lol those were funny.

    No one complained because -

    a - The guy doing it can't have expected to have been taken seriously / he sounds like has issues
    b - The 4th one had the voice recording in it. Plus according to FireZ he was on Tor servers, so it was obvious he didn't want the staff to know who he really was.

    What country are you in? Does the law in your country state you are allowed to deal in stolen goods?

     
  27. Unread #134 - Jun 9, 2013 at 5:23 PM
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    Not everything has to be outlined in the rules to be an offence. This isn't the legal system where you can weasel your way out of something through some lawyer's trick, the admin's are judges.

    If you have proof, stop making the people posting on the thread sit there and guess whether or not you are trolling them. No one is going to take you seriously if you put pride above actually wanting to come to a resolution.
     
  29. Unread #135 - Jun 9, 2013 at 5:28 PM
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    Also pardons were basically given to everyone else except Viou, I didn't see FireZ banning any of the other members who were exposed, we even seen him viewing the threads but we didn't see "fucking banned" or anything close to it.

    There really was no need for FireZ to say fucking vetoed when his opinion doesn't even matter on the thread since Sythe banned him and was dealing with the dispute. Sythe had already vetoed it and even though he was a dick it was already denied. Even if FireZ wanted to post he should have posted something constructive and let Sythe close the thread.

    Also laptop hop off staff's dick most of them have dealt with stolen goods in the past, Sythe's word wouldn't protect you from your country's laws and if he was fair in the matter he would have banned r2p after oogabooga exposed him.
     
  31. Unread #136 - Jun 9, 2013 at 5:28 PM
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    Not the examples I am looking for.

    Get your facts straight bud -.-
     
  33. Unread #137 - Jun 9, 2013 at 5:35 PM
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    Been around since 05' still doesn't know the difference between your and you're, and I'M the child, funny.
    Continue to be hurt that you where banned by these two staff members which now you get the chance to express your "opinion" about in a bad manner.
    Been here for 5 months buddy, learn to count, I know you're autistic but peak times for you.

    Oh look someones been temp banned, lol!!
     
  35. Unread #138 - Jun 9, 2013 at 5:38 PM
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    I wasn't paying much attention at the time as I'm not really a Market person.

    Nothing wrong with saying you would have vetoed a pardon anyway even if Richard did it.

    For everyone else I would say "innocent until proven guilty". Yes a lot of RSGP is stolen / phished or whatever but there's no way to tell if its stolen unless you are told about it. Its not like they are marked notes like police use to try and track down drug dealing.

    From what I've heard Viou KNOWING traded stolen goods, which is illegal. Now if he didn't know about it but did it anyway, then that's a different story.

    Oh well. I'm not going off to look for threads like that, though there's been loads in the past.

    If that's supposedly true then why is Viou still permed? I read a post somewhere from Richard who stated Viou was trying to change his wording on the story after his banning.

    Chloe there's this amazing thing called the PM system...
     
  37. Unread #139 - Jun 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM
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    Banned optikal for massive spamming/flaming
     
  39. Unread #140 - Jun 9, 2013 at 6:08 PM
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    Marrow's side
    N4n0 unbanned him on good behavior with a condition to stay away from Firez. Overruling Firez's ban without notifying/consulting him.

    But something does not add up. How n4n0 unbanned marrow on good behavior after saying this:

    Honestly, I think you should be glad he changed his mind about the perm, and waiting out the 2 week ban is nothing compared to that. I mean it looks to me like n4n0 forgot the 2 week ban you were supposed to serve which was issued by firez, and he simply changed his mind about the perm.

    I don't see firez in the wrong, at most it's only mis-communication.
     
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