Some wars are good?

When everyone thinks of wars they always think about the pain and suffering and they want to prevent them.

If you look to the future, overpopulation will be a serious problem. War will be one of the only ways to fairly depopulate the planet.

Does this mean that wars are just? What is your opinion?

 

I have no idea why, your post kinda reminded me of this...


Anyways, war is just not just by any means. War destroys countries, land, people, homes, honor, and brings nothing but dreadful diseases, hatred, inflamed racism, discrimination etc.

Also, human population growth as a whole is slowing down, and is expected to reach a "break-even" point. While most assumed we would continue growing as exponential growth, it looks a lot more like logistical growth now. It is also thought that after the break-even point, we will begin to experience a bit of negative population growth (losing people overall). I did some research for a paper once, if anyone wants I can look through my computer for some saved info about it...

 

War in the ancient world was needed. I don't think its needed anymore. We have evolved over that.

 

Is the premise of your argument really about wars or is it about overpopulation?

If your sole argument for a 'good war' is that its benefit to reduce population size is grounds for defending it, I really have to disagree. I think as far as methods go to combat overpopulation, war is one of the most inefficient ones.

Much more practical solutions to overpopulation could be thought of, such as sterilization (not necessarily suggesting or condoning); implementation of a child policy similar to China's, or, something that is very likely to happen in the future- inhabiting other planets. There is no reason why in the future this couldn't happen.

More and more men are becoming infertile by the day. There is a lot of estrogen in the water supplies these days (completely unintentional); it gets in there from women taking the pill and there not being a filtering process to take the hormones out. Also a lot of plastics use synthetic estrogens, which also effect hormone levels. I forgot which species it was, but one of them lost all males in the period of 20-30 years and instead became androgynous. All of this due to 'gender bending chemicals.' Excuse the turn of phrase.

In fact, the European Parliament has noticed the disturbing effects of all this estrogen and has started banning certain synthetic ones as it's effects are too pernicious.

Male infertility will be problem in the future. How big? I'm not sure. But if testosterone levels are anything to go by, they've been dropping since the 70s and at a rapid rate.

All of these will be factors in your solution to overpopulation. I really don't see a war as being necessary.

 

Is this thread being serious? or just trolling.. war is never good. The deaths that occur are just horrendous, we will get over over population and the good earth has enough for everyone.. we have so much of it that we do not even use.. take Canada for instance where i live only the south of our country close to the border to the US is populated the northern parts are pretty isolated.. War is never good. Don't ever get that idea. It's only beneficial and good for the elite who want to profit and don't have any value for the human life.

 

War is never good. War is sometimes justified.

 

War is never good for any party involved. Though at times, it is the only effective means of correcting a problem. And if you know me, that says a lot.

 

It'll get overpopulated one way or another, a war may help reduce the population, but the birth rates are way higher than death rates.
Despite the rates are backwards during a war, population will keep growing.

 

actually after a war populations tend to spike. After world war 2, the baby boomers.

So it cant be a way of controlling the population

 

i mean it does control global population.... Some wars r necessary. depends what country and what your beliefs r. ww2 was inevitable.

 

I don't believe war is good or "justified" but I do believe the government worries about overpopulation and deals with it themselves, they don't deal with overpopulation issues with war, they throw diseases and disasters out there left right and center.
War would cost them too much money to repair broken buildings/cities etc, so an easier way to rid the world is through disease, simple, no cost and effective.

In my personal opinion, you don't need to worry about overpopulation/war when the government has their own ideas.

 

War costs much more than lives, there are relatively few deaths compared to 'natural' population curbs. War creates more property damage and debt than actual loss of life. Also, the casualties are normally able bodied young men, people who are generally useful laborers.

 

War is never necessary. A proposition to depopulate the planet is within the same line of thinking as Hitler. Humans will always conflict with one another because it is in our nature, and as a result, there will always be bloodshed, no matter how far we think we've evolved. We are all animals by nature, and our core programming is no different than that of the animals we see as primitive. It is the control over our instinctive drives in times where it would be logically beneficial that separates us from animals. For example, a relatively simple predatory species reacts the primal instinct of hunger by pouncing on the nearest prey it comes in contact with. We evolved from this primal state by developing the ability to think beyond this simple linear path of logic by utilizing tools and other "out-of-the-box" utilities to help us accomplish our goal in a more effective way. It takes a turning of the cheek to evolve, and in this theory, war is never a necessity.

 

If you believe wars are good to keep the balance of humans in the world from having too many to overpopulate the earth, than I believe you're completely wrong. You realize there is enough land in just America ALONE to house EVERY human in the world and some more? Let alone the remainder of the Earth that doesn't contain America? There's more than enough. However, I do believe wars are good in some circumstances, but I also believe we are past those times that we have to seek death and violence to find a resolution. There is too much at stake for war to happen nowadays. The way I see it is....build an army so big that no one would dare pick a fight with you, but at the same time keep your shit to yourself. The only reason there's a war is because everyone is trying to influence someone else. There would basically be no war if everyone kept to themselves and didn't try to influence their bullshit onto others and when there is a conflict (which there always is), these morons choose the same path everytime, war. I want to see the moron (leader) who claims war be put on the battlefield and see how quickly they change their minds. Bunch of pussies.

 

You'd be good friends with someone named Thomas Malthus..

Well you can consider war, disease, famine to be necessary for human population checks.

Or you can be a part of the group that thinks each human was actually born with the right to live.

Two completely different worlds. You can argue each side, but in the end both are correct.

Human's generally don't want others to die, but if you faced a situation where food became scarce you're going to make sure you end up with the food. You'd be surprised what humans will do to survive, and in the end you need to remember that when you argue whether or not "war is good."

 

In my personal opinion I believe that some wars are justifiable. Here is why for one population control for example the united states is extremely overpopulated and in the future it could become to much. Secondly, disease when you have to many people things become unhealthy and population control cuts back on sickness. Finally if you're going to war for something you believe in and that isn't pure politics I believe it is justifiable.

 

I have no idea how governments could control population without people complaining but there really should be limitations when overpopulation will start to be an issue (not when it's too late, though!)

Third worlds need that labor, though... Indians and Mexicans I suppose do too (Mexico is about to be the number 10 economy, right?)

 

how would you feel if someone killed you to lower population?