Disagree with this ruling

Times have changed.

 

Not really.

 

If you guys are going to do this you need to make it clear to new members that they need to request private messages as this is going to create a loop hole for people to just scam people who are unfamiliar with Sythes rules. Also I think there should be a system implemented that sends everyone a pm when someone's skype has been hacked. We need more preventative measures if you aren't going to hold people accountable for their skypes.

 

We're ALWAYS harping on people to get a PM. I don't understand how much clearer we can make it. People are just careless, impatient, and ultimately end up doing nothing more than putting THEMSELVES at risk.

 

Lots of new members find the market very intimidating and no matter how much information we give them, they will still likely allow themselves to be SE'd by a "trusted" (hacked) user.

 

Like I said ATM there's more questions than answers. Really think the staff have been too hasty in implementing this especially considering the current situation. Sometimes being proactive is dangerous.

 

I have to agree to some extent. We've always punished people for allowing their MSNs become hacked. 'Oh but system flaws', do you guys remember when MSN had that flaw and all of those people that got hacked? They all still had to pay back. There needs to be an equitable remedy for all parties or else we are going to see a lot of, 'my skype was hacked'.

 

This new rule opens the doors for people to scam with their skypes and then claim they were hacked. It was always my understanding that we required people to refund scammed users from skype/msn hackings to prevent users from scamming people and then claiming their skype/msn was hacked.

There are ways to avoid this skype security flaw (buy credit, make a new skype with info/email that only you know, simply don't use skype at all) so I really don't think we should be giving people a free pass if their skype gets hacked. But my main problem is that we're allowing a loophole for people to scam and then claim their skype was hacked. Just put the rule back the way it was before, you are responsible for any scams if ANY of your communication devices are hacked. From what I can tell these skype hackers aren't making off with much in the way of scams anyway

 

People seem to forget that the people being hacked are just as much of a victim as the people being scammed, creating a double standard is not good.

If my skype was hacked and someone scammed with it, I would absolutely refuse to refund the person who got scammed.

 

Right but thats: A) Your a dumbass for getting hacked. B) A douche for not owning up to your mistakes.

 

Strongly agree with this.

 

This is what happens when an admins skype gets hacked. He doesnt want tobe responsible so he changes rules for the whole community.
Everybody can scam now without getting banned. I can hack myself from a vpn and free $$
Good idea mods -NOT-

 

would like to know what they are planning to do with the new rule keep it or revert back to the old rule where people are responsible. If it gets reverted back i will just delete my skype and use PM on sythe. As i do not trade/have not traded in a long time nor do i play RS at all if i was hacked and someone bought RS with my skype i would be fucked as i don't play the game/know anything about it. So it seems like there are some different views on the new rule and i just wanted to know which one they are sticking with so i know if i need to delete my skype or not.

so i'm guessing that n4n0,TBT,Dave,Elena,Jack,RSU,Nytrix, and all the other people who were recently hacked are all dumbasses? Not like they knew about the skype security flaws...

 

What happens for example if we did receive a pm off someone, but have to leave for 3-4 hours for whatever reason. We then come back and find out in that in 3-4 hours we were gone they were hacked. and we lose X $$
how long between a pm and a trade are we allowed?
I do like Arrow's suggestion of

The people who are going to be mainly targeted are high end traders, They should be setting safety standards not making exceptions.

 

Oh, so it's my fault Skype has a flaw in their system? Take it up with them.
And we can flip it the other way, the person who got scammed is an idiot for not requesting a PM, and a douche for not realizing their mistake and expecting reimbursement from another victim.

Victim blaming is shit; making people reimburse things out of their control is shit.

 

It is not out of your control. That is such a stupid idea that I'm not going to bother explaining why. It is extremely obvious. All a rule like this does is shelter the big guys at the expense of the little guys. It's that simple.

 

It was an unknown exploitation of the skype system, what the fuck are you talking about?

Well thought out reasoning.

This rule isn't perfect, but it's a better standard than having a victim reimburse another victim, and is rather easy to keep in check and make people aware that no trade is safe outside the site's confines.

And are you shitting me? Sheltering the big guys? You are aware that not everyone who was hacked was a major seller or had income to just throw at this to make it go away?

 

Had a thought, what if you make a new skype but your old one gets hacked and used to scam? Still the no PM no proof rule, as people could use this to pretend they've been hacked.

 

I don't like the fact that the rules been changed to get some one out of shit...

I don't like the fact that I can scam some one now even if they know that its me, I have posted on there thread ect. But because I don't send a PM I can take their money and not get banned.

Think about it.

 

It is now well known. Anyone who hasn't taken steps to avoid it is asking to be hacked. Not every buyer has income to lose because some people fail to secure their accounts. This rule allows people to scam and not pay any price for it.