Donations from others on your behalf and disputes handling

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Donations from others on your behalf and disputes handling
  1. Unread #1 - Feb 9, 2013 at 3:08 PM
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    Donations from others on your behalf and disputes handling

    So today I was talking with AmitZ and he quoted Matthew. Matthew said that if someone charges back the money of a donations that person made on your behalf you would get banned. It makes no sense to me.

    I think that person should get banned and my rank should get removed.

    The way donations are handled on behalf of someone else records your ID, IP and Paypal, that should be banned, not the user who received the donation.

    Of course, you'd need to be cautions from who to receive donations on your behalf to not lose cash if you sell gold for (for example) donations on your behalf.

    Else, the system could get exploited and simply wouldn't make sense.

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  3. Unread #2 - Feb 9, 2013 at 3:11 PM
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    You mean, if we took the payment, processed the donation, then the person chargebacks, so we chargeback, we get banned?

    If so, your right, it makes no sense.

    But i think as long as we can prove they chargebacked (ie. picture of chargeback on paypal) then we should be okay.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Feb 9, 2013 at 3:20 PM
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    Donations from others on your behalf and disputes handling

    Seems like there is a bit of confusion among staff. I agree with Roary and Tux on this one though, what Matthew stated is silly.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Feb 9, 2013 at 3:22 PM
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    that would mean that i could donate for black tux and charge back to get black tux banned? doesnt make sense right.

    I think they need to take the rank away and ban the guy that donated
     
  9. Unread #5 - Feb 10, 2013 at 11:02 AM
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    Inb4 stui vades, donates $100 for dave and chargesback, Dave gets banned.


    This is retarded. They should just lose the donor rank.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Feb 10, 2013 at 12:38 PM
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    Thing is, it'd be classed as scamming sythe, so they must be banned.

    Rule does need clearing up tbh.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Feb 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM
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    Inb4 all of Sythe pulls this scam on one another.

    How I would love to see that. But really, this is quite a scary loophole.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Feb 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM
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    Donations from others on your behalf and disputes handling

    I may need to clarify what I said.

    If someone donates on your behalf, the donation is tied directly to your account. So, if a dispute arises, the system will connect that disputed donation with your account, not theirs. Hence you might end up banned.

    Obviously the person who made the payment should be banned, not the person who received the donation. The issue is that the donation system only correlates a single donation with a single user. So, that means there's really no way to tell who originally made the donation...

    This is admittedly something which needs to be resolved in the payment processing script. There was such high demand for the ability to donate on someone's behalf that the feature was added without full support on the back end. This will be resolved, but making changes to the PayPal scripts is very sensitive. One wrong piece of code and payments stop processing altogether.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Feb 13, 2013 at 8:59 AM
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    Hadn't read this, sounds good Matthew.

    Thanks for the update :)
     
  19. Unread #10 - Feb 13, 2013 at 9:05 AM
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    thanks for clearing this out matt :)
     
  21. Unread #11 - Feb 13, 2013 at 9:56 AM
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    Matthew, so you're saying I could donate for someone now and chargeback and they'd be banned? In that case, I'd like it so that people can't donate on behalf of me so I'm perfectly secure, as I'm not being caught in some loophole.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Feb 13, 2013 at 10:11 AM
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    i agree with this. There should not be a donate for others option until it is all sorted our with the coding. I have recently had someone ask me to donate for them and i said no and showed them that. i mean i could just donate $5 for someone i hated then charge it back and boom they are banned. So if that is the case then the option should be removed.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Feb 13, 2013 at 9:34 PM
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    Matthew said that it's a problem that currently happens but WILL be resolved when the script is changed, as it was made in a hurry.
     
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