EDIT: CAN A MOD PLEASE MOVE MY THREAD TO RUNESCAPE GENERAL? Thank you!

Many people do Playerauctions because they don't want to get paid by direct PayPal to avoid chargebacks... but what does Playerauction do to avoid getting chargedback once they have paid the seller and the buyer is gone for good?

Can't people chargeback Playerauctions just like they do everyone else? Do they have an agreement with PayPal or something that allows all chargebacks to be stopped when it comes to them? I don't understand because if someone pays with a stolen PayPal account/credit card it is got to be taken from them, or not?

Even if they allow the chargebacks, won't they lose alot of money? How are they in business because almost everyone uses Playerauctions to accept PayPal payments.

WHAT'S THE FUCKING SECRET?

Further supporting evidence:

Link: https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/UserAgreement_full

Code:

13.3 Ineligible Items. PayPal Purchase Protection only applies to PayPal payments for certain tangible, physical goods. Payments for the following are not eligible for reimbursement under PayPal Purchase Protection:

•Intangible items, including Digital Goods
•Services
•Real estate, including residential property
•Businesses
•Vehicles, including motor vehicles, motorcycles, caravans, aircraft and boats
•Custom made items
•Travel tickets, including airline flight tickets
•Items prohibited by the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy 
•Items which you collect in person, or arrange to be collected on your behalf, including items bought through In-Store Checkout at the retail point of sale (unless bought using PayPal Grace Period, see Eligibility Requirements above)
•Items that violate eBay’s Prohibited or Restricted Items Policy 
•Industrial machinery used in manufacturing
•Items equivalent to cash, including prepaid or gift cards
•PayPal Direct Payments
•Virtual Terminal Payments
•Personal Payments

Even if your payment is not eligible for PayPal Purchase Protection, you can file a Dispute and try to resolve the issue directly with the Seller; however, PayPal will generally not find in your favor if you escalate a Dispute to a Claim for an item which is not eligible for PayPal Purchase Protection.

 

They are a known and legit business, so they would win the majority of chargeback disputes. Also on a rare occasion when they could not win, their 10% fee on every trade is plenty enough to cover it.

 

Exactly as UniversalHacks has said - it's simply because they're a trustworthy website, as compared to your everyday regular seller everywhere else.

It's really just Sythe's vouch system in a larger form - Playerauctions has received many "vouches" that have shown Paypal that they're pretty trustworthy, and thus win a majority of disputes.

 

I called PayPal and they said their agreement specifically states that they can't be held liable for virtual trades. So why does it matter if Playerauctions is trusted and legit or not? Shouldn't PayPal be following their agreement?

Further supporting evidence:

Link: https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/UserAgreement_full

Code:

13.3 Ineligible Items. PayPal Purchase Protection only applies to PayPal payments for certain tangible, physical goods. Payments for the following are not eligible for reimbursement under PayPal Purchase Protection:

•Intangible items, including Digital Goods
•Services
•Real estate, including residential property
•Businesses
•Vehicles, including motor vehicles, motorcycles, caravans, aircraft and boats
•Custom made items
•Travel tickets, including airline flight tickets
•Items prohibited by the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy 
•Items which you collect in person, or arrange to be collected on your behalf, including items bought through In-Store Checkout at the retail point of sale (unless bought using PayPal Grace Period, see Eligibility Requirements above)
•Items that violate eBay’s Prohibited or Restricted Items Policy 
•Industrial machinery used in manufacturing
•Items equivalent to cash, including prepaid or gift cards
•PayPal Direct Payments
•Virtual Terminal Payments
•Personal Payments

Even if your payment is not eligible for PayPal Purchase Protection, you can file a Dispute and try to resolve the issue directly with the Seller; however, PayPal will generally not find in your favor if you escalate a Dispute to a Claim for an item which is not eligible for PayPal Purchase Protection.

 

i think PA has good rep so they trusted :B

 

You didn't answer my question at the top lol.

 

PlayerAuctions is accredited by the BBB as an A+ company. For anyone to do a charge back would be nearly impossible seeing the fact they are an actual BUSINESS and paypal will get the dispute from PlayerAuctions and also, who plays by the rules? They bend the rules, everyone should know that..

 

That is not fair? We all should sue PayPal over this than... Can we not?
I mean it clearly says they don't deal with virtual property, they didn't write any exceptions.

 

Pretty sure all the above is wrong.

Playerauctions guarantee you loose no money if any chargeback occurs, mainly due to their total revenue, which comes from the fee any seller has to pay (the % cut). That fee basically acts as a deposit, to secure your money, and make it safe from chargebacks; in simple terms. Obviously, they also do fight back chargebacks, and would win in most cases.

 

To do a charge back at player auctions could be pretty bad for the person charging back. You would basically be stealing they most likely have proxies banned so your ip will be logged and all they would have to do is take 5 mins and file a police report in your city and the police would come by most likely within 24 hours

Runescape or not its about the money stolen. I seen on cops druggies calling the cops because some dealer stole their cash. Not smart but it is still theft.

When it comes to money whether its for video games illegal activities gambling or anything else you could think of if you chargeback steal something its still a crime and a charge you do not want following around for the rest of your life. Theft / larceny does not look good on any application whether it be college or a job later on in life. Not to mention most petty crimes are posted in city newspapers and such so everyone will know what you did. Last thing you should want is a theft charge following you around for I think in some states 7 years on a background check because you wanted to steal some Runescape gold

 

Why do they win chargebacks in most cases? PayPal doesn't say that it provides other companies/person more power in the agreement did they? No they didn't.

What I am trying to prove is that PayPal is giving Playerauctions this power; which is that whomever chargebacks Playerauctions will be settled in favour of Playerauctions. The reason they don't post this in their agreement is because than all the other companies/people would know about it and they would also create similar relations with PayPal and if that happens most scammers won't be able to chargeback, and we all know PayPal makes most of its money from and is popular because of people being able to chargeback with little hassle.

Sure but that doesn't explain why their agreement only talks about the average user, why don't they also state about companies such as Playerauctions?
In their exceptions, they don't state anything about sites like Playerauctions.

 

Wrong section.

Also, people can charge back on PA but it can have concequences.
PA just guarantees to pay out the seller, regardless of whether or not they still have the payment or not, that's their policy.

 

Wrong section.