Price $/M in Thread Titles

I agree with kero, if someone has the stock and are willing to do it, I don't see anything wrong with that.

But I'd like to see people having "Cheapest, best prices etc." gone first, before this.

I do however support this for the buying section. I hate it when people say "paying up to 0.55". And in the thread they have "Currently paying 0.45-.55". Some people have offered lower than the 0.45 they have on the thread, and they pay no where close to 0.55. The thing here is they aren't willing to pay 0.55, or even close to it, no matter how much is sold. It takes mods a few hours to edit the title, but they leave it there as long as they can. But you can't stop what they put on their thread post, how they say that they pay up to 0.55 or anything absurd like that. I'm talking about gold sellers, so they obviously flip the gold they buy. I don't see a problem when they just have it on their thread, at least not to an extent. An example is you Arcus, you have 0.4-.5. I know you pay between that, and you may pay closer to 0.5 depending on the situation. But there's people that just offers less than what is stated, and people that puts it on their thread title "Offering up to 0.5/M" or so.

 

I agree with you to a certain extent. Although it shouldn't be allowed to only have your lowest price in your title why not make it mandatory to put your lowest and your highest price in your title. An example would be "Selling Gp[.55-70c/mil].
Also I agree with some people's point that is also shouldn't be allowed if the seller doesn't have stock.

 

The titles should say "From $.XX/m". To simply advertise your lowest price and implying that it is your average price is misleading, and I'm tempted to simply go through threads and make some quick fixes but I'll bring this up with staff first

 

I have to agree with Arcus here, this is being abused and is false advertising. At the very least, what Video said is absolutely necessary. If you are advertising your lowest price only, you must put "from $.xx/m". This means that you have prices ranging from that and up.

However, this still leaves plenty of opportunities for abuse. I could post that I am selling GP for $1/m via Paypal, and $0.45/M for 15B+ via Mail. I could then only advertise the .45/M price. Does it trick members? No, but it wastes their time, and cheapens everybody's experience.

I say, in order to advertise a price, it should be your PA / Paypal price. These are the most common methods used for trade, and the most relevant prices to basically everybody. The only exception would be if someone is not selling via PA / Paypal at all (which is extremely uncommon).

Of course, the option remains to simply not post price at all.

 

Support this, very great idea, will help out a BUNCH of people.

 

If you are going to advertise a price state the payment method in thread title too.

If you are advertising 0.5 through mail, state it in the title.
If you are advertising 0.4 through google checkout, state it in the title.

To completely disallow them to advertise that price based on the assumption they cannot actually sell that is unfair to them.

 

There's no way to properly resolve this issue. Allow me to explain:

-If no price is permitted in titles, finding gold becomes a hassle
-If we're required to put the method next to it, there's not enough room
-If we put the median price, it's unfair for some who accept high-fee methods
-If we have to put the amount for that price, again, it becomes complex
-If we put a range, people will still abuse it and make idiotic requirements


Not to call anyone out, but I've seen everyone use this mail trick. I attempted to purchase a large volume from a seller who advertised it at $0.50/M once, and he immediately changed the title to a higher price before the trade could actually commence. And again, not to call anyone specific out, but everyone has abused this. I tried my best to keep it accurate, but customers still get mad when my introductory price is only for the first 10M/20M/50M. The only solution I can see for this is putting the price for your most highly used payment method, for 50M, including all associated fees and discounts. This seems to be the most common denomination, as apparent by PlayerAuctions.

(edit) Oh, and there should be a rule where you're REQUIRED to request a title change every time your prices change.

 

I don't see why people keep calling it a "trick" or anything else that denotes shadiness. It's no different than a car salesman advertising 0.9% financing, even though he knows that the 23 year-old standing in front of him will never qualify for anything that low.

 

I actually have respect for the GP market. I try my best to keep it as far away as a shady, unprofessional business, and your analogy of a car salesman proves my point. When I started out in the market, there were decent profit margins, clear pricing, and more. Then everyone began whoring to get their share of the market, and it just destroyed everything. I almost never complain until it reaches a point of disbelief, and we've pretty much arrived there. Sellers don't realize how much of a negative impact is placed on a dying market. Selling out to Chinese goldfarmers and undercutting eachother are the two things that will be RSGP's demise in the Sythe market.

With all that said, I'm still okay with it as long as ONE pricing in your thread matches that of your title, and if you're actually willing to sell at that price if a customer wants to purchase it.

 

This. And since there is no way to know if they will honor their .$30 a mill for 1 trillion+ title, we really can't do much.

 

If the staff's goal is to prevent that from happening, it can be resolved by forcing the person to honor the pricing if no title change request is placed, but a post requesting to purchase the amount is, within the same time period. If the seller refuses to honor the pricing, it can be punishable by the thread being locked for a period of time, and increase for repeat offences. Just my take on it. I'm sure most sellers would cease offering prices they cannot do if a serious rule is put in place.

 

PP, PA, WU, MB, GC.

I don't see how two letters can take up much space in a thread title.

 

I think that having a misleading low title price simply misleads users. Very few users actually put a price in title which reflects a typical order.

If people want to advertise 5000M+ at $0.5/M via mail, they can do so in their threads. Customers can easily look at threads to determine what a user's prices are and this way they are not tricked into clicking a link based on a misleading title offer.

 

How about try what was actually suggested:

$0.50/M PP, $0.60 PA, $0.40 WU, 0.40 MB, 0.60 GC​

And if price ranges are also required:

$0.50-0.60/M PP, $0.60-.70 PA...etc​

I try to be as typical as possible with mine. Instead of offering $0.40 for 10B+ via Mail, I offer 10M for all new customers via credit card. This way, everyone can at least once get the price advertised, and every time they look at the title again, they'll think "Oh, I already got the introductory offer, so I can expect higher prices now." But guess what? It works. Customers won't get pissed off as often, and once they're happy they got it once, they'll forgive the price being extremely low.

Of course, I would still advertise my typical rate, and I did for a while, but it did not work. Too many sellers were abusing it, causing low volume of traffic to my thread, so I had to come up with my own way of offering a lower price.

And once again, I think the impact of a misleading title is being exaggerated. The only benefits I see from it is the customer actually taking a look at what your thread has to offer, and increasing your view count, which in turn helps you feel more prominent in the market. Remember, no customer will see $0.50 in a thread, and still purchase the gold if it's, let's say, $0.70/M. They'll just get pissed off and never return, so it's counter-productive.

 

Most of the GP flippers do it. Not only do you distort the price, but you all use false price advertising, even all the websites. Granted, prices do change sometimes, but most of it is done intentionally.

I don't think it's an issue though. Because the people looking to buy gold make the choice of whether to pay it or not. Yes, I'm sure it's a competitive market and it's probably annoying for you, but I don't think it's a real issue.

As someone that offers a Kiln Service which has a price guideline, I know most people don't even take note, they just look for a user they trust. Simply because a lot of people add you ask for a quote, which they could see themselves, then say sorry too much or something.

PS, did you even make a suggestion? gg

 

Tricky...if your're selling 1b + via WU at 0.55m and via pp 10m for 0.7, u can just write 0.55 in the title, but its not fair...Users can keep browsing I guess so the competition is actually fair. Also reputations always counts>than price, too many scammers these days. That way people can do their best to maintain and invest in a good reputation.

 

I agree with you arcus, It is so annoying seeing people doing that. It shows a really cheap price, but when you go into the thread the prices are a LOT more expensive than it says on the thread title. And the thread title $/M is the price of the most unused payment methods.

 

I'll use your thread for example.

Before:
╰✰╮№1 Gold Seller ٩(๏̯͡&#3663۶ RSUltimate ⇨ 24/7 ⇨ Low as $0.4/M ⇨ 10% OFF SALE! ✖ No BS


After:
╰✰╮№1 Gold Seller ٩(๏̯͡&#3663۶ RSUltimate ⇨ 24/7 ⇨ Low as $0.4/M GC ⇨ 10% OFF SALE! ✖ No BS


You aren't advertising PP, PA, WU and MB prices in your title so you wouldn't need to write them in. Two letters.

 

Right, but if people are only required to list their price for one method, this is how everyone's thread will look like, and the point will be lost:

Derpa Derp's Derp Shop // $0.50 [M] Trusted - 2 billion vouches​

M for Mail. Even if the full word is used, people will still click on it, if that's what you want to prevent.

 

To me personally I could care less what people have in their title. It was just a simple suggestion that would please a few people.