Scammer TheWiseOldMan

GP King · Jun 23, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGgpcUiZUkU (video proof) Go full screen 720P for best quality

Link to profile: http://www.sythe.org/member.php?u=299168

Proof he is who he is and that he accepted the 45M we gave him. The entire video has information so please just watch all of it.

Chat log of when he recovered his account back:

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Link to user's Sythe account:
http://sythe.org/member.php?u=299168

Proof of him being person in chat:
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1420113 Post #9

Full chat log in text:
The Gp King said
then decide if you want to re loan or if you dont
the account is 100% locked right now
Max Cauner said
Well show me a screeny please
The Gp King said
okay will do
ugh you are on ebuddy
cant send from my comp gotta upload them
Max Cauner said
I am on msn.
Windows live messager
The Gp King said
me too
dont have option to send files

The Gp King says
uploading to image shack
the account is locked
cannot do anything with it
Max Cauner says
send me the link please
The Gp King says
are you gonna help or not though?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/newpicture2xe.png/
Max Cauner says
Ofc i want to help but you are accusing me of locking.
The Gp King says
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/newpicture3u.png/
locked
see
Max Cauner says
doesn't say locked...
Look at the link...
The Gp King says
look at 2nd 1
account has been locked...
see
Max Cauner says
Doesn't show the user.pass though
The Gp King says
that is the user and fucking pass entered
Max Cauner says
Well jagex locks account when they find its suspicous....
The Gp King says
yea maybe
Max Cauner says
Treat me like a valuble customer...
The Gp King says
well you should help unlock it
Max Cauner says
And the customer is always right....
The Gp King says
yea but not when they are a potential scammer... sorry but unless this recovery works
Max Cauner says
I am asking you what the current price and i will get you it back.
pass*
The Gp King says
but you see
the current pass
will allow you to have control of the account
AND the 45m loan
in otherwords
you will get eerything
and we get nothing
Max Cauner says
Well TRUST ME.
I am not scamming.
The Gp King says
AFTER IT HAS BEEN LOCKED ITS HARD TOO SORRY
im telling you
team viewer and it will be fine
or
give me the 45m
then I tell current pass
you unlock
give back
and i give 45m back
I'd like to believe you but its hard to and im sure you can see why after it has been locked
and giving up a pass that will give you the account back is just not an option
give back the 45m and you get pass to unlock
OR
get teamviewer and you can get the account back for us
I don't have much time to mess around here
I have to eat dinner soon and this needs to be done
whats it gonna be?
Max Cauner says
Well i am being honest...... i still have 30 days to pay it back right? though
Mate. i did't lock it... if you want it back supply me the current pass and ill get it back to you asap.
I trusted you in the first place. Now please trust me.
I am not scamming
I won't be downloading TV. I should be able to get it back for you if you supply the password.
The Gp King says
yes you have 30 days if you help recover it
yes
okay
give me 45m and you can have pass
when you recover it back
I give 45m back
Max Cauner says
Well it doesn't work like that as i'm not in the wrong.
The Gp King says
I am not gonna let you have both of the things at once
for the safety of my business I have to do that
Max Cauner says
Well Tbh i am offering to recover it back for you.
The Gp King says
you can easily recover and walk away
you are asking for the pass so that you can get back possibly
see
idk if you are really helping or not
look
I'm making this safe for both of us
temp give loan back
you recover acc for us
Max Cauner says
Well it isn't safe as.... i have 30 days to pay back the money in your TOS
The Gp King says
we reissue loan
Max Cauner says
And i am offering to recover it.
The Gp King says
holy mother of god
are you seriously not seeing this!

Burton Guster has been added to the conversation.

The Gp King says
the damn account you gave us is locked
I am NOT giving you the password to "recover it"
Max Cauner says
Now i have to deal with 2 people.
GREAT
The Gp King says
because you will still have the 45m
noob dont talk
Max Cauner says
Very professinal right.
The Gp King says
listen!
Max Cauner says
I am not in the Wrong.
The Gp King says
I will attempt to believe you
listen
Max Cauner says
I am not downloading TV. I still have 30 days to pay back the loan. I HAVE offered to recover it back if you supply the current pass.
The Gp King says
For our financial safety I cannot let you have posession of both the acc and money at once
what i am offering you is
temporarily give me the 45m
I tell you current pass
you recover it
we trade back
the loan stays in effect
Max Cauner says
Finically...... Well i don't accept that, I have give you an option take it or leave it.
The Gp King says
that way I do not have to worry about you running off with the money and account
Clearly you are scamming here
look
you are not losing anything by doing this
if you say you wanna help with the recovery
then this is a safe way to help
nobody would refuse to temp give money back and help us out if they were legit
look dude im serious
try and look at this with some sort of logic
if I tell pass, you will have account AND 45m
Max Cauner says
I have given you an option, Jagex lock accounts all the time due to suspiocus Ip's Right... I am offering out of the goodness of my heart......
The Gp King says
that not gonna fly with me
if I tell pass and I have the 45m in my hands
Max Cauner says
Well i am not asking you to fly.
I am offering if you want that option.
The Gp King says
then it is like we are doig the loan from square one again
omfg quit getting a smart ass attitude with me
look at how this sounds
Max Cauner says
Please contain yourself..... act professional.
The Gp King says
letting you have the 45m AND account at the same time
that is like me donating you 45m
Max Cauner says
Well the account would be returned to you.
The Gp King says
and PRAYING you give me the acc back
how will I know this
by taking somone's word on the internet?
if you give 45m
I will give pass
then when it recovered
Max Cauner says
Take my word on the internet.... it means a lot to some people.
The Gp King says
you get money abck
Max Cauner says
I am not breaking the terms early..... then i would have to pay 7m more... for the loan
The Gp King says
no you wouldnt!
Max Cauner says
I have given the option.
So you are breaking your own words
The Gp King says
look I am giving you the option to temporarily cancel the loan
by doing that
you pay us the 45m back, and we give you account pass
you recover the account
and then we trade again
Max Cauner says
Well why would i want to cancel it..... that is pointless.
If you want me to recover it for you guys then i can if you supply the password. It's that simple take my word for it and sorted.
The Gp King says
OMFG BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE THE LOAN COMPANY FEEL SAFER AND PREVENT YOU FROM RUNNING OFF WITH THE DAMN ACCOUNT AND MONEY.
you are sounding more suspicious withe every message
I told you earlier
I have well enough to ban you
I'm trying to take your word
and help you
Max Cauner says
Well if i sound suspicous then report me..... but i am not in the wrong.
You aren't taking my word attal
The Gp King says
I AM TAKING HALF OF YOUR WORD
Max Cauner says
You are overpowering it by using CAPS
The Gp King says
holy mother of god
listen to me
dont talk
just sit there
and listen
Max Cauner says
.
The Gp King says
If i told you the current pass, you can recover the account right now. BUT there comes a security issue because then you get account AND the 45m... Can easily just log out and run.
BUT
if you temp. hand back the 45m and help us recover the account
nothing will happen
you willg et the 45m back
and then we will have the account
unlocked
Max Cauner says
There is no secuirty issue if you TRUST ME. Do it and u will find out i am no scammer. So yeah........... Choice you either trust me or you don't
The Gp King says
NO!!!!!
shut up for two seconds and listen
Max Cauner says
I DID.
The Gp King says
put away the 4 year old logic
if we allow you to have the account AND the 45m
we are potentially fucking ourselves here
if we let you have pass and you let us HOLD the 45m while you recover it
everyone is happy
the account is unlocked
you get 45m
we move on
deny it and you are clearly a scammer
Max Cauner says
Well fuck yourself just 1 time and it will be fine you will enjoy it and recieve the account back 30 days later recieve 54m end off.
The Gp King says
that is honestly the smartes way
Max Cauner says
I DENY YOUR THEORY, But i am not scammer.
The Gp King says
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Max Cauner says
So professional
The Gp King says
dude you are clearly not thinking
Max Cauner says
So much swearing.
Be mature....
The Gp King says
because you are turning down the easiest and safest way of doing this
I can easily just upload this chat and get you banned
dont need any other proof
you spell scammer right now
you are denying doing this the safest and easisest way possible
there is no fucking way you can be legit
Max Cauner says
Upload it please.
But....... i'm legit and want to proceed with this but you won't allow me to recovery account for you.
The Gp King says
what are you scared about
tell me
what are you afraid will happen?
Max Cauner says
The account is still in your possesion.
The Gp King says
the account is locked genious
Max Cauner says
I am afraid of no man!
The Gp King says
exactly!!
what do you have to lose?
after we give a pass
what is there to lose?
you can get acc back
no harm done
what do we lose?\
oh we lose 45m
do you not see how there can be the slightest issue here?
Max Cauner says
The account is clearly in your hands..... I have no acsess to it.
The Gp King says
neither do we!!
nobody can acces the account
and you want to tell me we have it?
Max Cauner says
Yes you can you have the user and password which is correct.
The Gp King says
BUT ONLY YOU CAN RECOVER IT WITH THE CREATION IP
essentially
we do not have the account right now
we can give current pass and let you recover it
but we are not taking the chance of losign 45m and the account
that is why
the EASIEST thing to do
Max Cauner says
Well... i think you have to take the "Chance".
The Gp King says
is to just let us hold the 45m
Max Cauner says
You have no other options i have given you the option.
The Gp King says
YES WE DO ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID. I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING PISSED HERE BUT YOU CLEARLY ARE NOT THINKING
if we tell you the damn password
you can take account
and keep the 45m and we are scammed
Max Cauner says
and i will return it to you.
The Gp King says
how do we know this?
please explain?
Max Cauner says
You have my word.
The Gp King says
well I want to make sure I can have your word by holding the loan for 10minutes while you unlock
I've taken 200 vouched ppl
words
and gotten fucked there too
tell me why should I believe you
look
any person with half a brain will see
if we give you pass
you can easily run away with account and money
no matter how much you promise
Max Cauner says
You have my word.
The Gp King says
it is just a typed thing
if you give back the 45m for a bit
then you can get acc
then we swap back for the loan
Max Cauner says
I DON'T WANT TO GET BANNED ON SYTHE FOR 45M BUT YOU HAVE THE ACCOUNT IN YOUR HANDS AND WILL NOT PROVIDE ME THE CURRENT PASSWORD SO I CAN RECOVER IT FOR YOU GUYS.
The Gp King says
I am telling you dude. I really wanna try to trust you, but I just cant tell
WE WILL IF YOU JUST LET US HOLD THE 45M SO YOU CANT RUN OFF
HOLY FUCKING SHIT MY 2 YEAR OLD COUSIN WOULD KNOW THIS IS SAFEER
god
Max Cauner says
You know what..... I given you the option...
The Gp King says
I have given you the fucking option
Max Cauner says
And swearing, you swear to much...
The Gp King says
two inface
im pissed
sorry for being pissed
and sorry for trying to not get scammed
but your method makes no sense
there is no way we are going to allow you to have the account and 45m
and just
HOPE you give account
im telling you
there is a safe way to do this
Max Cauner says
Just trust me you will see.
The Gp King says
omfg dude
Burton Guster says
Dude there is no logic in just trusting you with the 2 parts of the trade
The Gp King says
you must not understand something
we have nothing right now
you have 45m
if we give you the account to recover
then we still have nothing (less of nothing)
and you have acc AND 45m
if you give us 45m jsut for a few minutes
we can redo this whole trade
and have everything sorted out
I can quit yelling
and both of us can feel safe
I am telling you that it is the simplest and safest way for both of us
we can get a mm or anything
Max Cauner says
I don't agree with it due to the loan is a seperate deadline date. ill recover it for you if you want if not then IDK
The Gp King says
idc
omfg
listen to me
the loan will not have anything happen to it
you will still get 30 days
you will stil have to repay the interest
right now I am giving you the chance to temporarily put the loan on hold and let us sort this out
I'll give you 15 more days on the loan if you do that
how about that?
just don't feel like being scammed or screwed today sorry
Max Cauner says
I can repay on the 30th day i don't want any bonusus etc
The Gp King says
okay that is fine
Max Cauner says
But i have given the option sorry.
The Gp King says
but you need to understand
there is no logical reason for us to let you have BOTH the account AND the money
sorry, but there is no reason to
if you let us hold the money
you wont be charged
you wont be told to pay more
all it will do will allow us time to sort this out
all it will do is temporarily cancel the loan
no interest needed to be payed
nothing but you and me just sortig this out
you said you didn't wanna be banned on sythe
well honestly, I wanna trust you
but letting you have both of the trade items is just not safe for anyone
there is really only one way to do this safely and legitly
Max Cauner says
Give me 5 minutes please.. il go your method.
The Gp King says
there is teamviewer which you refuse to get to help us despite it being safe
5 minutes
if you going our method
meet us now please
and just hand back loan please
Max Cauner says
I am transfeering the facking cash mate.
The Gp King says
I can give pass as soon as you do
Max Cauner says
Give me a second.
The Gp King says
okay
Max Cauner says
Enraging me
The Gp King says
ok

Max Cauner has left the conversation.

The Gp King says
lol he left