Does ring of wealth increase addy bar drops at aviansiesl

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No, it decreases it. However it does increase the drop rate of limbs and ranarrs.

 

Ring of Wealth has no negative effect whatsoever. It increases your odds of getting something from the Rare Drop Table. It is still possible to get something from the RDT without the ROW, but the chances are slim.

I cannot say if it has a positive effect on addy bars, but here's what's stated on RSWiki.

I am not sure if the addy bars counts as one of the common drops. I doubt it though.

 

Experiments at Aviansies have proven that ring of wealth decreases bar rates as bars are not considered a rare item, ring of wealth increases the drop percentage of good common rares.

I'll break this down for Apith, if something doesn't increase it, it...? Use your words, yes, it decreases it.

Revert to RuneScape forums for a confirmation I did some browsing to make sure I was correct, ignore Apith as I believe he has never played RuneScape in his entire life.

I think he has someone else do his services

 

Can you link me to some proof please

 

So if I made a post on the RS Forums saying I killed 1M Aviansies. 500k at a time. I got 10k more addy bars without the wealth. You'd buy that. Typical.

Now if you were to rely on a more reliable source:
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Ring_of_wealth

It says nothing about decreasing the drops of anything. Jagex has never mentioned it on their blogs when it was released. All it basically does is give you a better chance at the RDT, and chances to receive better items from various bosses. Which means it only has an effect on bosses, hence why it shines EVERYTIME you kill, let's say, corp.

There is absolutely no stupid reason why Jagex would give the ROW a negative effect.

Not to mention all that gets added would be uncuts, basically gems. It has absolutely nothing to do with addy bars. If it doesn't increase the drops of addy bars, you assume it gets decreased, instead of unaffected at all.

 

Yea no problem, I'll send you a few in your PM because i'm going to stop posting on this thread so it doesn't get locked again like the one in Rs2 vids & pics after I destroyed Apith, again.

 

Play nice kids.

A difference of opinion is fine, but please keep the comments respectful.

 

Apith is right.

The ring of wealth doesn't really affect the Addy bar drops.

The rare drop table can either drop an item, but many of the slots on it are 'empty'. The ROW removes these 'empty' slots, which really does nothing to the addy bar probability.

 

Exactly. No need to troll/get aggro Bugga. Because something isn't increased, that doesn't mean its decreased, there is a third option - it remains unaffected.

All in all, if you making cash there I'd say take it.

 

After numerous trips to aviansies, I believe that the ring of wealth does decrease adamant bar drops.

Think about it as a basic probability wheel. If you are wearing a ring of wealth basically what happens is, the chance of getting a rare item increases. But, the chance of getting a non-rare item decreases. Sorry for the poor quality of the diagrams, but this is what i think happens. Note that these aren't actual values, as we don't even know if jagex utilises this system.

Red = Non-rare
Blue = Rare

Without ring of wealth on:


The chance of getting a rare item is obviously less than getting a non-rare item. This is without the ring of wealth on. But what happens if we wear one?

With ring of wealth on:


The chance of getting a rare item has risen significantly. But then what happens is, the other value must decrease if the 'rare item' value increases. This effectively lowers the probability/chance of getting a non-rare item.

 

Bugga and pTank are right, it has been like that for years.
Addy bars aren't considered as a rare so if you wear a wealth it does decrease the percentage of addy bar drops.

and as zerker said, stay nice

 

i can say for a fact row has no effect on addy bar drops, atleast in every trip i have tried. i usually end up with a few more addy bars than my kill count wearing row or archers, say i kill 500 i usually get around 525-600 bars i know that 75 bars is a fairly large variable but in all the trips i have been on (and its quite a few) the addy bar rate has seemed to vary regardless of the ring im wearing. ROW definitely increases rate of dag and limb drops actuallly making a pretty significant difference in gp/hr.

 

I'm not going in to any discussion, but the ROW does have a negative effect on adamant bar drop rate.

 

Just to add my opinion - the way that I've always understood the way ROW works at Aviansies, is that it slightly decreases the amount of addy bar drops.

The way that I understand it, wearing a ROW increases the chance of getting a "rare" drop from the Aviansie's drop table. This includes runite limbs, a number of high level herbs (dwarf weed, ranarr, kwuarm, cadantine, avantoe, irit, lantadyme), spin tickets, and anything else from the RDT (Rare Drop Table). During my trips to the Aviansies, I would want addy bar drops as much as possible, and so I would usually substitute the ROW for an archer's ring or something similar.

Note that I've never looked into this, and so this is unconfirmed. But it made sense to me.

Also, to add on what Apith said above - the addy bars DO count as a "common" drop on the Aviansie's drop table, so according to the quote from RS Wiki above, it is possible ROW could actually increase rather than decrease addy bar drops. I haven't done enough experimenting and testing myself to confirm or deny this myself, but from my own experience I've concluded that ROW actually slightly decreases adamant bar drops in favour of rarer drops.

 

I know from personal experience of many hours of killing aviansies, that if you wear a ring of wealth, you will get less addy bars. It increases rare drops. Adamant bars are a common drop. Even if I'm Wrong about how It works, I know wearing one will get you less addy bars.

 

It kind of makes me worried that the people who offer services "Imagine" are the ones who don't know what they're talking about, they're doing things on other peoples accounts? Doesn't seem right.

ROW increases the drops of rares, hence not dropping as many addy's which another word for that is... Yes, decrease.

If there's two things, one must go up and one must go down.

 

no, no, no. It's more like this (simplified without other drops, of course):
Without ROW


With ROW

Lured Yah, it used to be like that, but Jagex updated it like a year ago or something.

Yeah, an archers ring would give you more addy bars per trip. Not because of the likelihood of the addy bars being dropped, but simply because you could kill more avansies per trip with the added range bonus.

bugga, you have no idea what you're talking about. There are also more than two things...

First, the ring of wealth, if anything, increases addy bar drops.

According to the RS wiki ROW article:

Also, according to the RS article on their own website: HERE

If you actually took the time to read, it states that the ring of wealth only affects the drops on the rare drop table;
that is, when you kill a monster, you 'roll' a die. The ring of wealth does not affect this table at all, and the addy bars are on this table. If you are lucky enough to land on the 'rare drop table' slot, you get to roll again on a different table. This rare drop table has many empty slots, and the ring of wealth comes into play by removing those slots, thus making 'rare' drops likelier. It doesn't make adamant bar drops unlikely though...

I've backed up my statements with solid proof, not just theories or experience. Can you do the same?

 

You're providing evidence from unreliable sources? You're a great debater.

Before you attempt to make an argument against us do this, vid yourself going to avainsies without a ring of wealth and with one. Log your evidence and then present it because you're arguing with people who know they're right because we do this on a regular occasion.

/thread.

 

Ok, locking this now. Time outs for everybody.