Concerning Vouches--Sometimes Misleading vouches

I have been looking around and i have seen people who have vouches that say something alone the lines of" Vouch for _________ Bought 1b off of him"
or something like, (a direct quote form someones sig)

"
___________ is an extremely caucious seller, and I ended up buying a Torva Plate from him. He gives you many steps on confirming your payment, etc. And, in the end it pays off. If you're attempting to scam Elite, you will not succeed, he's a very nice guy and I'm glad that the trade went well.

tl;dr, bought $8.00 Paypal for SS Stuff, went first, legit"


From the highlighted it seems like it was for real rs and not a private server soulsplit to be exact.


Main point: I believe that vouches should include the game server and not just an amount, as that made me think, he did a good trade with a guy who haldled a torva platebody which in real rs is around 220m.


So here it is, what do you guys think about this topic.
EDIT:There are also other misleading vouches like just saying A++ fast and cheap, which could be anything from 1 cent to 5000$+


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Yes that is true HOWEVER there could be a way to ease it, 2 lists that moderators have acess to. The first is a list containing all the active sythe users(im pretty sure thats easy) and another which is of voulunteers who would be willing to check the vouches of the people they're assigned. The mods would get a report from everyone on the volunteer list and would see to it.

If theres reports of insufficent clarificatin for anything then the vouches would have to be something like A. Edited by the voucher or B. Be deleted and unuseable.

If theres alot of insufficient clarification then that would mean that this would potentially save TONS of users from being scammed.

 

I agree. 1b on SS its alot different than 1B on RS..

 

Yeah I do agree. Specifics are 100% needed.

I've seen that vouch and I didn't care for the whole thing at all.

 

If it's that people are vouching "1b" regardless if its p-server gold or RS gold, then for sure that should be corrected/made into a rule for private-server sales that you must include it is for private server gold.

 

Yeah, I've stated that the origin of the trade should be specified.

 

Don't think there's a single private server that has any real value, definitely misleading.

 

Hmm, i must agree. However i've seen people post "total traded: $usd" meaning, the real value, no matter what vouche is. and thats what im doing to avoid confusion (even though pservers piss me off)

 

Well, alot of people do soulsplit, near reality and battlescrape private server gold trades quite frequently so ... yea.

 

People should be required to claim what type of GP they traded and vouched for.

If that is what you're suggesting then I support it.

Although it should already be common sense to include the type of GP exchange in the vouch provided.

 

I agreed with this the last time that it was suggested or brought up or something and I support it this time as well. Private server trades should be vouched as such, because it is misleading as people said. 1b SS gold is worth much less than 1b RS gold, and I agree with Jam in that I see little to no value in private server gold sales.

 

Considering the huge difference in value, I agree that there should be some sort of rule in place to clarify trades. The only downside I can see to this is we can place a sticky and put an announcement going, but usually only regulars of the forums seem to check these, so it may take some time to get the message through. But overall I believe it's a fantastic idea.

If this rule was approved, what would happen though if a moderator did find out it was only a Private Server trade, would the buyer and seller just be asked to edit their vouches or would an Infraction be put into place?

 

Well it could be considered fake vouching. I think that the first occurrence should earn them a warning then whatever the fake vouching punishment is.

 

True, but a large majority of people I reckon will forget about the rule change. And I know that they're obligated to read the rules and they should know them, but I'm just trying to be fair.

We could make it easier by only needing to mention it if it's RSPS Gold? So for RSGP, you can still say "Sold 1 bill." I dunno though. I'd just hate to see someone get banned for forgetting twice :/

 

Forgetting once is a mistake, forgetting twice is just being careless. They can take a ban if they forget twice, because if they are making selling private server gold their business they should know all of the rules and regulations just like everyone else has to know their markets rules.

 

Fair, fair. But I still think that for a second time offence a three month ban is pretty harsh. A TwC or 3 month market ban, yeah.

 

Well I think for RS trades "gp" or "1b" should still be the default meaning, but for p-server trades it should be specified.

 

It should be RSGP by default and a private server must be specified.

 

I was thinking, a vouch is when you complete a trade, and the seller/buyer feals like the opposite person, deserves a vouch. Saying there is no meaning t you, doesn't matter. However it is still a trade on sythe lol. But you should go into more detail with this, what are you trying to say? if you're stating that you should post what kind of trade, then no. No one will follow this, and will lead to so much infractions, bans, and waste of staff time, just because it's not a 1b trade on rs, or zarpor, doesn't matter. Perhaps just ask him what the vouch was for? and if he lies...he gets infracted/ban/TWC.

 

Wow I agree totally on this. I was buying gold earlier and when I checked vouches, one guy had one that said: "bought 15 blue partyhats.. totally legit" well it was for RSC so total value was like 300M compared to 40B. So yeah I agree with you op, people can easily overlook these things and think "yeah he's trusted he has a $20,000 vouch" then get scammed

 

Yes the ss gp was quite misleading in the vouches. I believe there's a rule saying that vouches requires you to state what the trade is and the value and what game.