Dismisal of The Holy Bible. (Memoir)

I want to open a discussion on the subject of The Holy Bible. What I don't want to do is have a flame war about is god real, or anything dismissing someones beliefs, although by discussing this, it may be what we are doing. Let's keep it non aggressive, and intelligent as each one of our selves can handle.

I've always enjoyed learning about mythology, specifically, Christian mythology.
I was never the kid to have religion shoved down his throat. When being raised, my parents never pushed anything on me. They were very passive, and didn't discuss to much of there own beliefs as they did not feel that it was important in a young kids life, whether they were right or wrong is neither here nor there.
I really do like the idea of having a "faith", it's always appealed to me. Being young, I can remember trying to convince myself that there was a god which I loved, whom I'd pray too. But I always knew, or felt rather, that the feeling as as real as my imaginary friends. I've been to church a few times, mostly from going with friends after sleeping over at there houses on a Saturday night when I was younger. I always felt the preacher was trying so hard to convince the people there, with his watered down words, and these morals that have been so far twisted and translated from their original form. It kind of disgusted me, even at such a young age.


So, when I was a bit older, in high school, I had more of the means to get into what was really behind this man trying to convince us, and I decided to sit down and read the bible.

I picked up a generic "Holy Bible", I had took from a hotel years prior and dove in. The first day I read only about a hundred pages, and I was hardly "hooked". I really had to kick my own ass to keep me to reading it, but I was slowly grinding through it. I found myself after a few days taking notes, referencing, and doing everything I can to understand what I was reading.
Most of which I couldn't. Eventually I finished it, had 2 notebooks full of notes, and stopped there. Then I discovered... the internet. I always used it for AIM(what the cool kids did), but I realized the potential of it on learning this subject. So I dove into it, learning everything I could about Christian mythology. For some reason I focused mostly on the idea of disproving what had been written in this "Holy Book", for a reason unknown, probably because a unconscious thought of not having faith, led me to want to destroy the idea of it. Which is for some reason what a lot of Atheists today do, not only do they say they don't believe it(which is fine), but they try so hard to disprove it, as if they need to prove themselves.


Alright so fast-forward, and we are where I am now, a but more intelligent, a lot more curious, with an ever-growing perception, and mind. I'm going to bring up some things I realized about the bible, that just didn't add up to me, and feel free to discuss these.



God makes heaven and a formless earth, and light and dark.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
God raises up the land on a watery earth, and then he creates trees and grasses. God gets around to making the sun and the moon and the stars.
God creates terrestrial animals, and people.

Ok, so in genesis, this is the order of sequences it states that god created what we know.

Firstly, an argument made often is that when god made the universe, the days they were referring too, aren't the 24 hour days we know now. Ok, well, it says that evening and morning were the first day.. we also have one morning and one evening. Perhaps the rotation of everything was changed in between, or alter it?

Next, God raised land on a watery earth, alright, he creates trees and grass....Ok, what's wrong with that. Well that would be fine if it weren't for the next part. God gets around to making the sun and moon and the stars. So these trees and plants survived with no sun.... interesting, I mean he is god, he could do it. Then he makes man, and animals....

I mean that's just all, what seems to me, wrong. Carbon dating means nothing I guess, I just don't see how some people could believe this stuff. Maybe because I wasn't raised with it.


Here are some very funny contradictions.

GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.

GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.

GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.

GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.

GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born.
GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time).
GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.

GE 17:15-16, 20:11-12, 22:17 Abraham and his half sister, Sarai, are married and receive God's blessings.
LE 20:17, DT 27:20-23 Incest is wrong.

EX 20:14 God prohibits adultery.
HO 1:2 God instructs Hosea to "take a wife of harlotry."

EX 34:6-7, HE 9:27 God remembers sin, even when it has been forgiven.
JE 31:34 God does not remember sin when it has been forgiven.

DT 24:1-5 A man can divorce his wife simply because she displeases him and both he and his wife can remarry.
MK 10:2-12 Divorce is wrong, and to remarry is to commit adultery.

Those are some of the ones that stuck out in my mind when I was looking more into it, just something silly to think about.

Please guys, I'm not trying to make any people with a faith to stop that faith. Just posting this for the enjoyment(if any) that some people may get.

 

Y U NO Discuss!

I ain't dat retardz0rs.

 

Which version of the "Holy Bible" did you use? Also, Can you make the abbreviations of the books have an extra letter? I don't know them well enough to understand them all.


GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.

This however.
In Genesis 1, when the Bible talks about the creation of man, it says how he created man from dust, and then says that he created man and female. In Genesis 2, the Bible goes on to say how he created the woman from Adam's rib, backtracking but explaining what wasn't explained before and pointing out the less significant events in between the creation of man and woman. They were not created at the same time, based on the verses you pointed out.

 

"26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

I've read and reread, still seems in the context, was that he created them at the same time. But your point is/could be valid, like I said, these stuch out to me, open for discussion.

I believe it twas the King James bible.

 

Sounds more like NIV. Check the King James Version and get back to me.

 

Just my two cents, the bible was written by man. That is a fact correct, so yes there can be mistakes in it. Also it was translated many many times again this could cause a problem. Also the bible is up for how you interpret it. How can we have different versions of a perfect book? You have have NIV and King James to just state a few and they can sometimes have very different meaning in the text as there appears here. Also why would God allow for his word to be anything but imperfect? Its something is perfect and clear there shouldn't be any need for interpreting.


2 Peter 1:20, "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."