Bug Abusing For Profit From Players Should Be Considered Scamming?

Considering that we ban for things like offsite scamming, or admitting to scamming a friend who isn't even a sythe user, or even just expressing a thought of scamming which apparently implies intent. I've seen people banned for all of these things, yet abusing bugs to illegitimately gain off other players and imposing a loss on them is not considered scamming?

There's a handful of sythe users right now posting screenshots and stories of this newest duel arena glitch they're exploiting, and have been other instances in the past of similar exploits like this that go unpunished. I think it's the same thing as any of the others i've mentioned.

Luring too would also fit into this category, you're luring an unwitting player into a situation where you can profit off their loss, IE. Stealing from them.

 

I agree with you as it's a scam. But I guess there is no proof that those people used any glitch, and here at sythe we dosen't know players rs name. So there won't be enough proof to bann them for such a thing :/

 

There has been many threads about this. In my opinion it is scamming, but apparently the staff doesn't think so.

 

Im amazed at how you can get banned for offsite scamming, but not for luring and stake glitching.

I really don't think that talking about luring and glitching should be allowed on sythe because in theory they both are forms of offsite scamming.

 

Luring is not, luring involves a chance that the lured person escapes.

I do think duel glitching, which doesn't just give an advantage, but gives a guaranteed win, should be prohibited.

 

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1354165

In this thread, the user CLEARLY states his gains were due to bug abuse.

 

This has been decided by staff to not be a scam. Although if you scammed someone via some method like a trust game, you would be banned. It makes no sense, you just have to go with it

 

Sythe.org is a RuneScape cheating website. If we're going to disallow people to use glitches in-game, we're going to have to prohibit the discussion of glitches too. Glitching qualifies as cheating. If we find a user specifically targeting sythe.org members with glitches to scam them, the issue will be dealt with accordingly.

As said before, some issues will be dealt on a case-by-case basis, however, for the most part, bug-abusing will always be allowed.

 

There's a LARGE difference between bug abusing and bug abusing to scam.

 

Sorry, forgot the fact that scamming is also the same as cheating. Thanks for informing me of that.

Sythe is a runescape cheating website, but was it ever established initially as a bug abuse cheating site? Especially one that thrived off of scamming?

 

The only real difference I can see is the glitch, like a dunge smuggling glitch doesn't deceive another player to gain an unfair advantage. A 100% duel arena glitch does however. I don't see much of a difference in taking 10m for a pin and not giving the pin and using a bug to win a duel for 10m. They're, in essence, the same because you are defrauding a secondary party.

 

Because reducing our userbase even more for something that is debatable as much as this isnt worth it.

 

I can understand that glitching should be allowed on a cheating website, but not a glitch that allows to steal off another person like a staking glitch.

Scenario A - Person admits to scamming 50m off someone on runescape= Perm ban

Scenario B - Someone posts a thread about how he made 3.5b off scamming people using a staking glitch= Nothing happens

This should be classified as offsite scamming....

 

Everyone knows they enter a duel with the risk that a new bug has been discovered. People enter a duel knowing they probably have a 50/50 shot of losing their money anyway. I really don't have any problems with people using in game mechanics to their advantage. It is entirely different from scamming on this sythe imo

 

Yeah but you can get banned on sythe for offsite scamming, which this should be classified as.

 

All of this being said, did you notice there is a cheating section for several games? Cheating in any form gives you an unfair advantage over other players, would you want to remove the cheating sections altogether?

Not to mention there is a difference between scamming and luring and that is that real money is usually lost whenever there is a scam. Its a person buying something and not getting it or a seller who does not receive payment. In a glitch like that, there is no prearranged agreement in which real money is involved, its just rsgp until the attempt to sell or buy it comes into play.

 

I'm saying it is not scamming. It's playing a game and cheating at it. It's not making a handshake agreement with someone in real world context and then stealing their money from them. Duelist should know the risks by now

 

Implying botting is the same as scamming someone off on a duel by using a glitch and taking their money.

What separates this from scamming?

 

I'm just saying, bots have severely hindered my gp/hour, that's profit taken out of my pocket from characters who are being played by just a computer. When you duel, you assume the chance to lose and glitching is just an advantage. I haven't heard of many for sure win glitches like that for a LOOOONG time. Back when the loan system on runescape first came out I lost a blue h'ween mask from the glitched system, and that was much worse than losing a duel in which you assume you always have a chance to lose.

 

Lol just go look at 'just un dudes' thread of the glitch, he made 3.5b using it, this really should be classified as offsite scamming.

Also just because bots have hindered your gp/hour, it still not like they are taking cash out of your pocket like these glitchers are doing.