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    Is Space Exploration fake?

    So, hears my question. Could it really be possible to design a camera/telescope, such as the Hubble, and take pictures of galaxies 500 light years away? Is it possible to travel in to space and land on the moon? Is it possible to send a land rover to mars and have it travel the surface? It takes 214 days to get to Mars. What happens if they land the space craft taking the rover upside down and the rover can't get out. What happens if the rover breaks. What happens if the rover falls off a cliff?

    These are questions that concern me, and I would love to discuss this whole topic.

    Let's begin!
     
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    Is Space Exploration fake?

    Yes, just the same as it is to take a photograph of yourself. Obviously telescopes have more advanced features; more mirrors to focus photons for example.

    Yes, travelling into space is possible. The Global Positioning System is evidence of this. Landing on the moon, it's possible and it has happened.

    Yes, Mars's landscape is is similar to very specific places on earth that have been exposed to very harsh conditions. This is where they test the rovers.

    Then there goes billions of dollars. This is quite possible actually, they are unable to send rovers to venus for example due to it's extremely inhospitable atmosphere.

    It depends how high the cliff is. I'm not sure how the physics works, but presumably, since the gravity on mars is far lower than that on Earth, the force exerted onto the rover should it fall from x height would be much smaller than if it fell from the same height on Earth. This simple fact is, it is highly unlikely this would ever happen as the scientists controlling the rover are not 'flying blind'. Just remember, they factor all these possibilities when they designed the rover. I suspect that it would be able to survive relatively unscathed from a sudden drop.

    [/QUOTE]These are questions that concern me, and I would love to discuss this whole topic.

    Let's begin![/QUOTE]The simple answer is that space exploration is not fake, and the questions about possibility are indeed possible, and the questions about scenarios have been factored in.
     
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    Is Space Exploration fake?

    These are questions that concern me, and I would love to discuss this whole topic.

    Let's begin![/QUOTE]The simple answer is that space exploration is not fake, and the questions about possibility are indeed possible, and the questions about scenarios have been factored in.[/QUOTE]

    Heres the thing. You are believing what you hear. Prove to me that men landed on the moon. Prove to me that land rovers are actually on Mars. Prove to me that the Hubble telescope is real.

    If you haven't noticed, Hollywood can make some pretty realistic looking stuff, and if no one has ever been to Mars or the Moon before, who's to judge and say it's not real. Well I'm that guy judging it, because I don't believe that in 1969, they landed men on the moon, but to this day, can't or won't do it.
     
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    Is Space Exploration fake?

    Space exploration could be fake. Personally I don't see why they would go to such great lengths to fake it, but owell.
     
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    Doubt its fake, theres no reason why they would be spending millions just to fake it.
     
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    Terminal velocity on Mars is far lower than on earth, because the force pulling the body towards the center of the planet (gravity) is much lower, while the atmosphere is still about as dense as earth's.
     
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    In 1969 the state of the film industry was about at the animatronic state. There is no way they could make it look realistic enough. The believing what you hear thing is just dumb, because you can't really prove it, but you can't disprove it either. And l2 use
     
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    Is Space Exploration fake?

    The simple answer is that space exploration is not fake, and the questions about possibility are indeed possible, and the questions about scenarios have been factored in.[/QUOTE]

    We tend to do that, but there are times where this act is reasonable, and times were it is unreasonable. The ramifications for space exploration being fake is a major conspiracy from many thousands of scientists, and the scientific community. Also a major conspiracy by many governments, etc. In fact, we could compare this to believing in certain countries existence. Do you believe that Lithuania exists? You've never been there, you're only believing what other people tell you, correct?

    I wasn't alive when it happened, but there is video footage, correct? You dispute the authenticity of the video footage. What parts strike you as faked?

    Well, there are many reports and documentaries about the creation of the rovers. I'm quite sure that concrete evidence exist of that land rovers existence on Mars. Pictures would be one of them. This evidence is free for you to dispute, however, the burden of proof is on you to show that these pictures are faked and not genuine.

    The hubble space telescope exists, it wasn't built in space, it was built on Earth. If you'd really like, I could try and find the which spacecraft took it up into orbit?

    It's a world wide conspiracy! Occams razor holds that the simplest solution with equal weight is usually correct. It's a very complex assertion that almost everything is a major conspiracy; surely it would've been leaked by now. Even still, picture evidence exists, and if you dispute the authenticity of the pictures, say why. Remember, photoshop experts look at these pictures, and I've not heard anyone make a solid case as to them being faked.

    That's tautological, it's saying that: no one has been to Mars or the moon before, we know this because no one has ever been to Mars or the moon before to judge.

    I believe that they are planning missions in the future. For the record, they still can do it. Why don't you believe it? If your reason is because of NASA or private companies reluctance to embark on such a mission again, then it's a poor reason. It's akin to saying that you do not wish to travel to New York again, therefore you've probably never been to New York. No, there are reasons for not wanting to go to the moon again, one being that we've already been, the other being the copious amounts of planning required. I do believe however, that it is on NASA's agenda to go to the moon again sometime in the near future.
     
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    You guys need a history lesson.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Race

    If you look at the funding that was funneled into space exploration at those times compared to now, you'll see that this wasn't simply some science fair project.
     
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    This is not what your OP said and this thread is less about space exploration and more about what constitutes a valid source
     
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    Nope.. fuck all the hippies that say it is.
     
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    Is Space Exploration fake?

    Valid evidence:
    - Backed up by substantial evidence from many sources. Videos, photos, official and SCIENTIFIC reports with methodologies all carefully constructed and criticised by various parties. There are plenty of scientific journals which undergo rigorous peer assessments and revisions before articles are accepted, and in all cases, they must be completely accurate and clear in every sense. Go to your local library and look a few up, you'll find plenty of statistical and empirical evidence on the topic.

    The Mythbusters episode of the moon landing conspiracy (yes, I flashed the mythbusters card): They follow strict methodologies to accurately recreate the conditions that were experienced by the moon-landers, and successfully attempt to disprove claims that it never happened. Have a watch.

    Lastly, have you experienced the power of these optical devices (electron microscopes, telescopes) first hand? These aren't "made up", and arguing against their ability to "see into space" would just be futile. Book a trip to an observatory, on a clear starry night, and see just how powerful even fairly low resolution telescopes can be.

    Your entire argument is from personal incredulity (just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true). You should provide evidence before coming up with vague claims like this.
     
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    Malakadang messed up the quoting dipshit, learn to not double post.
     
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    everything is possible .. we just don't know the anwsers right now on this moment ... but soon or later when we use more off our brain everything will be possible.


    PS: did you know, With hubble telescope you can actually Look back in time to the big bang . learned it on school today :D
     
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    See, now that is awesomely cool, but impossible! How is it possible to look back in time? That's what makes it seem like a big scheme to me. The incredible stuff they claim to "find".
     
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    If that's going to be your only argument, you're wasting your time here. No one is going to be able to convince you of anything you aren't willing to believe.
     
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    Is Space Exploration fake?

    1.) yes, havent you seen thoose big ass one's in science class before?
    2.) yes, but tbh i dont think the USA was first on the moon. I think the first trip was a fake.
    3.)If we can get a spaceship up there, then we can get a rover the size of a car up there without a doubt.
    4.) when NASA spends hundreds of millions of dollars on somthing like this dont you think there is some sort of "back up" plan if it flips? such as hydrolic jacks that prop it up and then extend to push it back over?
     
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    Um no we can't look back to the Big Bang. We can see as far back in time as the farthest visible star to us is. This is because stars are lightyears and lightyears away, meaning it takes a very long time for their light to reach Earth based on the speed of light. Therefore say a star just exploded or something - it would take millions of years for that star's light to reach Earth for us to see it, therefore the light (or explosion) of that star that we would see currently, would be of the star millions of years ago.
     
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    I really have no opinion on it being fake or not. But why would someone fake it? Or why wouldnt they fake it? The debate can go both ways.
     
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    Is the movie apollo 18 movie real?
     
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