Non-religious point of life.

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Is there a purpose to life?

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Non-religious point of life.
  1. Unread #1 - Jan 9, 2012 at 7:11 AM
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    Non-religious point of life.

    This is one of the most primitive questions that we, as intelligent human beings, can ask ourselves: What's the point of life?

    We've all heard the religious answer to this question.

    I'm wondering if anyone has any other reasonable & logical responses that don't include anything to do with: Heaven, Hell, being judged, God, the almighty being, or the afterlife.

    Real answers please- not one liners.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Jan 9, 2012 at 7:12 AM
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    Non-religious point of life.

    I don't think there's a point. The universe was created out of mere chance, and at this point, we just live to reproduce and are supposed to enjoy life.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Jan 9, 2012 at 9:35 AM
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    Non-religious point of life.

    If there is a true reason, we don't know it.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    Not for everyone, it is up to you to construct a meaning for yourself.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    I guess we dont really have a purpose but the people that like to believe we do came up with the religion thing, no offense to anyone.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    Also, I didn't vote in the poll.

    I'm sorta 'agnostic' on this question.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Jan 9, 2012 at 7:54 PM
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    Non-religious point of life.

    Without religion, life can have no logical purpose.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    Well, if you're looking at it from a non-religious point-of-view, there is no single purpose to life; the planet Earth and all its inhabitants are accidents floating around in space. We live to fulfill our own desires, however selfish or unselfish they may be.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    In a non religion perspective, i think the purpose of your life is up to you. you decide what you dedicate your life to.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    You mean the point of human life/consciousness? I don't think even religious people ponder a bacteria cell and ask "WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS."

    Anyways, there isn't one.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Jan 10, 2012 at 2:54 AM
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    Non-religious point of life.

    Complete bullshit, the point of life as in being a living creature is to reproduce, looking at the microscopic world where it is not possible to have a conscience it is their purpose.

    Life with religion has no logical purpose, because if you look at religion logically you can see how it is like a pathological lie.

    Life as in being a human has purpose too. You find your own little corner and you try to make yourself and whoever else you wish happy.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    You live as an existentialist - meaning life has no real meaning and you have to create meaning for yourself as you go through it. So there is no set reason for life (besides living) unless you create your own meaning.

    Since declaring myself an Atheist since like 10th grade, this is mostly what I believe in.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    In an infinite universe, anything and everything will occur once (Infinite Monkey Theorem). This is just one of these happenings. Totally random, yet still there due to laws of chance.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    Humans aren't microscopic organisms. The "purpose" of our lives isn't to reproduce. There can logically be no purpose for life. As for the religion comment, I'd have to disagree.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    There is no meaning to life, it is the feeling of living. The experiences you go through, the people you meet, the things you do. In retrospective, there is no actual MEANING to life. However, as said before, life is what you make of it.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    There is no universal point to life. You must create on for yourself and live your life to the fullest.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Jan 10, 2012 at 7:31 PM
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    Non-religious point of life.

    If you would logically think about your post, you would see the flaws.

    Why would we reproduce? There is no purpose to it, we just create new life. Who ordained that new life is the purpose? The molten rock that sparked the apparent Big Bang?

    Why is being happy our purpose? Again, purpose has to be ordained by something higher. If we are the result of chance, whether we live or not is meaningless. Without religion, life is empty and meaningless.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Jan 10, 2012 at 7:45 PM
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    Non-religious point of life.

    Yes it is, it is the one function that every living organism participates in en masse. There is no living organism that doesn't reproduce because if they didn't then they would be extinct. Saying that we aren't microscopic organisms doesn't hold any weight in our natural behavior because of two reasons:
    We are all a system of micro organisms that work together and because we evolved from simple single cell organisms.

    How can you describe the fact that in isolated tribes who have never seen today's media react the same way when they see an attractive male/female? Its called a biological hard wire, everyone has one and fairly few people (mostly those with disabilities) make it through a long average life without ever having sex. Even if the sex doesn't bear children it is still enough to fool the body into thinking it served its purpose.

    Why does sex feel so good? Because we were meant to do it.

    Lastly you don't agree with me on religion because you are either painfully oblivious or you are coming from a biased perspective. Being told to kill a whole village of people who believe in a false entity after being told not to kill (both quotable from the bible) is a perfect example of the outright hypocrisy and this is where the pathological lying can begin.

    People affiliated with the church often like to claim that verses like that and others are not to be taken literally. When there is no way you can take them that isn't promoting hatred and violence. Islam's Quran has similar texts about commiting violent atrocities, as do most of the ancient religions. So is this the religious point of life to endlessly slaughter those who don't believe in your god who has never openly shown himself but instead releases knowledge to non-scholarly "saints" who happen to be known as fairly unstable persons or happen to be living in areas heavily infested by psychedelic drugs? Well excuse me but I would rather not take that point of view.

    We would reproduce so that our species can continue on this is fairly simple stuff. Why does every other animal with a limited or no conscience reproduce? Why is the ability to reproduce biologically hardwired into our system so that someone who has never learned about sex from anywhere can understand how to commit the act when they are sexually mature?

    No, no all that stuff is nonsense though there is no point, the point is all about my religious sky daddy about which we have literally not a shred of evidence of his existence. I mean I don't see how someone can be so ignorant to claim to know of gods existence based on no evidence but then claim UFO's (containing aliens) aren't real even though the "following" of both is quite identical, and the difference is that UFO's actually have some hard evidence of their existence where god has nothing more than a few shroomed out Saints that can tell you all about the word of god.

    What is the point of a "religious life anyways" if not to be a prisoner. Yes that's exactly what you are is a prisoner to God. If all of a sudden tomorrow the church decided to execute all men who didn't cut their hair a certain way (assuming the state didn't kill everyone of those crazy fuckers) you can bet every single one of you prisoners would have that hair, and this extends onto everything.

    However seriously looking at religion, it comes from a time of Great Barbarianism and extreme poverty. Its design is to lure the everyday man into its ranks with the promise of things that it can't deliver itself anyways so that he can attend the gatherings and pay donation. Its also used to exploit this man into a soldier for itself as seen in the crusades.

    When Jesus came about he was a fairly clever man and he realized that he was dealing with a bunch of idiots. So what he did to religion is he sort of gave all these idiots a good way to live their life because they were too stupid to rationally decide what was a good way to live their life. over 2000 years later nothing has changed Religion is still a system for those who are either too stupid or too lazy to rationally decide what is right or what is wrong and they are forced to get approval from their "daddy" like the infants that they are.
     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    Human being are far more complex. We can chose to have sex or not. Surely if our life purpose was to reproduce, it would be a necessity to beget offspring.


    Maybe because human beings enjoy sex. It feels good, giving us reason to do it.

    Calling me painfully oblivious is large accusation to make, as well as coming from a "biased perspective" is. I can call your perspective biased and not intellectual, but it gets us nowhere. As for the bible, I would not know. If you want to comment further and enlighten me, please discuss.

    If this is your "view", then you are horribly uneducated. Please go into greater detail so I can you prove you horribly wrong. The accusations you make are outlandish.


    As for the topic, TM summed it up really well.

     
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    Non-religious point of life.

    Annex, you're drawing completely irrational generalizations about today's followers of the Christian faith. You're taking instances that occurred in what you accurately described as a time of barbarism and widespread poverty and then implying that they're still relevant to all of modern Christianity.

    You also claim that the Church preaches violence as the purpose of life. You can't seriously believe that's true. Not even in the times of the crusades when it was pretty well known that it was a greedy establishment did the Church openly preach violence. Their atrocities may have been relevant back then, but there has been an immense amount of reform since the 1200's. I don't know when the last time you attended mass was, but personally, I can't recall ever hearing a single sermon that preached violence and hatred at any mass I've been to. Yes there are overly zealous organizations, sects, and cults who's leaders and founders are nothing short of psychotic, but their ideals bear little resemblance to anything the Catholic church intends to teach.

    It's cynicism like the one both people like you and overly-religious people alike display that increases humanity's inability to live in harmony. Both sides of the argument have their flaws, and you could debate for either one endlessly and still end up nowhere.

    No one in my family believes in religion because they're too stupid to live a healthy morally-correct life by themselves. We believe simply because we choose to. Because we acknowledge the existence of a God, we follow the religion as a way of giving thanks for the life He has given us (yeah, I know, "why not just be thankful on your own, etc", but like I said, it's what we choose to believe in, and if you haven't become completely cynical, I'm sure you'll agree that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs).

    Quoting Albert Camus,

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."
     
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