Why is Marijuana Illegal?

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Why is Marijuana Illegal?
  1. Unread #1 - Jan 3, 2012 at 11:22 AM
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    So we all ask the same question? Why is marijuana illegal. First off it has 0 deaths per year, and then i can proceed to say that It does not impair your judgement in decision making and in physical judgement.

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    It does not get you drunk and impaired (you can drive while intoxicated with marijuana 100% perfectly fine) It actually makes you more accurate and acute most of the time. So most drivers actually improve while intoxicated with marijuana.


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    So I'm just here to ask, why do you think Marijuana is illegal? My opinions are this:

    1. Political (The government got mad at a country that produces mass amounts of marijuana, and to subdue them and not give them a chance at making money, they save their own asses. EX: Peru grows 15% of the worlds weed. America doesn't want it to be legal so that the Peruvian government can't make mass money producing Marijuana as an export etc)

    2. People (The government doesn't believe that people can handle substance control, and mixed with other drugs Marijuana would be lethal and cause many more dangerous situations, car crashes etc.)

    3. Taxation (The government knows they can make a ton of money off taxation of weed and they would save them selves economically, first off they would start rebuilding the debt that they owe, P.S. i think america owes countries something like 200 + Billion dollars. Weed would sell so extremely fast in stores and be in-demand that they could really tax is with any tax they want and anyone would buy it. Would makes America or Canada etc billions on billions of dollars. Why don't they do this? I believe that they have a motive not to do this. And it is because everywhere marijuana is legal at the moment the country is either third-world or getting there. For example: Peru, Chile, Columbia, Mexico, Croatia, etc. I think that America is afraid to include drugs into their system as it may start deteriorating their country over time.)

    4. Your ideas!, Post away and we'll see!!


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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    I think one of the reasons is that governments don't want to give an image that it's citizens are relying/ running on pot. It's not exactly glamorous tbh. Even though it's considered to be a relatively safe drug, I don't think there is a 0% death rate per year. Smoking anything is not good for you and some people are bound to die of lung cancer from smoking marijuana. It can also give people a lot of confidence and they do jackass things that they normally wouldn't do. I've seen that happen before.
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    Well I agree with the self image factor (from the governments perspective) but im not too sure about added confidence, that's only a affect caused in some people, most people are calmed down and relaxed by marijuana. And it would bring the government out of debt, which is like a once in a lifetime occurrence. Especially in today's economy. As for smoking, that is your own choice to die from lung cancer, you can always do marijuana out of a vaporizer (which is marijuana that has very hot air passed over it, it extracts all the THC and does not hurt the lungs at all, as it is air.)
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    Your right about vapourisers, but if someone wanted a quick dose out on the street, they would just smoke a joint.
     
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    yes but it would fix all of the governments problems, Theres really no big downside to it, but then again with this thread im trying to figure out 100% why people think that government has made weed illegal! :)
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    I think that it would give the country that legalised it a "bad" name. Take the city Amsterdam for example. When somebody says, "Oh, I'm going to Amsterdam", everybody around them says things like "oh nice, going to get high and shit then?". I believe governments don't want this "bad" stereotype that a lot of parents have. It's effects are way over exaggerated, yet because it IS a drug, people tend to think it is bad, and don't want their children mixing with it.
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    At least decriminalize bud,
    The use of the hemp plant alone has such a wide variety of use's and shouldn't be illegal because of older generations ignorance.
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    I do agree with you, and it has so many uses, not only to get high. But then again, why is it illegal then? Why choose this instead of a substance like alcohol or caffeine. There is really no difference.
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    This is a quote from yahoo:

    I know that in the Netherlands officially it is illegal, but tolerated. This is a constantly returning subject in the Netherland, in politics some are stongly against and some are strongly for legalisation.
    For Americans though, it is illigal to smoke in (Netherlands) , and it goes to the point that if I as a Dutch person sell you some grass, I can get arrested by Americans and get trialed for it in the US. Which is in my opinion completely stupid.
    What the future will bring is unpredictable, the pressure from the European Community is getting bigger to ban marijuana, but not every politician wants to bow for that.
    It has been tolerated for more then 30 years now, and we have the lowest amount of harddrug users in Europe.

    So as i may say, it is even illegal for someone from the Netherlands to sell weed to someone form America, as you may be trialed in America for doing so. How fucking dumb is that? So America can if they want to, to sue you, for selling someone weed not in their country, even if you are not American. DUMB. yet the whole purpose or this quote that i cut and paste was that even in Netherlands it is not legal, it is just tolerated, for example only coffee shops can sell you weed, you cannot but it from anyone randomly and for personal growth, there is a limit that you can grow (it is 5 plants per household member) and if you grow it personally you can not sell it to the public as that is still illegal.
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    I think probably one of the big problems is that Marijauna goes all the way back to the 70's when it first became popular (well known at least) in America when people who were anti-war peace-movers (Commonly referred to as Hippy's) were seen using the drug regularly and since then has just gained a worse and worse reputation.

    That being said, a lot of the people in the government now are middle-aged to elderly men/women, who have all experience the "Hippy's" movement against the government and I think a lot of them associated that with the Cannabis itself. Not saying this is the SOLE and only reason for it, but I think that it has gone downhill from there.

    Marijauna is also portrayed as a dangerous drug, in television, magazines, the newspaper, etc. The media is common to sell people lies so I'm not going to act like it's a bigger deal than it is. I do, however, think it to be ridiculous how ignorant a large portion of America is due simply to that which magazines and newspapers print. (Sorry I'm gonna ramble for a second, this is off topic) I don't think it fair nor decent of the media to fill people with lies, and it is much worse than many of us think. I did not realize until recently how much editing is done on models in magazines, or how much exaggeration is put into a news story. On the model thing: Taking a beautiful girl and adding a half an inch to her breasts and taking a half an inch from her waist does hardly anything for the picture, yet it encourages many teenage girls to starve themselves in false hopes of losing weight. It is proven that starving yourself in the purpose of losing weight is more hurtful than helpful and many girls who do that fall very far in the wrong direction, ending in obesity or anorexia. This generally leads to more psychological problems as well, including depression and anger management. (Back on topic now, sorry for that rage) It is generally assumed that media can be trusted, so when a magazine prints "Marijauna KILLS", people say "Oh shit! Marijauna kills you!" Of course this is not a literal example, but the message is the same and provides an example to the fact that much of the bashing of Marijauna DOES in fact come from the media. Yes, media also demotes the use of other drugs but you are more likely to see a news report on Marijauna causing problems then you are to see tobacco. The fact is: Tobacco is a POISON (nicotine), alcohol is a POISON, Marijauna has no poison material in it nor can it cause an overdose. 2 sips of grain alcohol is enough to blind or paralyze a man, while any amount of Marijauna can be consumed without any permanent side effects. It is true that the acts you do while under the influence of Marijauna may be unruly but that can be said tenfold over the other two potential drugs mentioned.

    No Medical Documents nor any Scientific Researches have proven or given even a possibility that Marijauna kills brain cells or destroys organs. That was a common misconception at some point and many still believe it to be true. This is probably because of the "laid back" look a person has while under the influence of weed. This "laid back" or "lazy eyed" look is from the relaxing of the muscles, you feel less tense and I can say personally that the feeling is incredible. This feeling comes from the THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) in the Marijauna, it is the substance that provides the muscle relaxant and euphoria (intense feelings of happiness or well being). It also causes simple things like faded vision and wooziness. This is why it is used as a Medical Drug. Another common misconception is the idea that Marijauna is addictive. This has ALSO been proven incorrect, there is no physical need of the body for Marijauna once consumed. When addicted to a drug or toxin, the body has a physical crave for that substance. Marijauna does NOT do that, the only reason people continue to use it is for the feeling you get and the safe feeling that you will not become addicted. I haven't smoked in nearly a month and feel no need to, however next time I get the chance I certainly will.

    Marijauna is also a major gang drug, mostly because it's awesome and easy to grow, so now it is stereotyped that Marijauna causes gang violence. I actually did watch a politician try to make that argument. Of course the flaw in his argument was simple; Marijauna only causes gang problems because of the fact it is illegal and needs to be smuggled, if it were to be legalized and sold in stores there would be much less gang violence. Along with this topic it is also a fact that some growers of the plant have been known to infect the substance sold with poisons. Don't ask me why this has been done but nearly 600,000 people have had rat poison put in their weed from a dealer, this is why it is crucial that you buy from a trusted person who either grows himself or knows the grower well. Or the solution could just be to legalize it, but there are downsides to legalization as well.

    That also leads to a good point. If the government were to legalize it, they would immediately go for a profit. What's the best way to do that? Make it addictive, grow in differently (using genetics) and make it addictive (Which it is not, contrary to common belief). I think that if it were to be legalized it would still be illegal to privately grow simply because America would want to make their profit from it. I would probably still buy off of my dealers (Saying they kept business going) simply because I would want natural weed. If all else fails I would grow it myself.

    So honestly, in some cases, it is almost good it is illegal. Not saying that it is justice nor am I saying I agree with it, I would be pleased if they were to legalize pot, I just don't know what they would do with it, seeing as the government is (90% of the time) after money.

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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    i agree with you on all 3 points, but you haven't listed the negative effects. when you legalize something it will bring on hundreds if not thousands of new laws, tons of research, and a lot of time. for example people would have to research how the smoke from weed reacts with the millions of other chemicals in the environment.

    Also the medical uses arnt fully positive. I have a friend that is in fact allergic to weed, whenever the smoke gets around him his eyes turn red and watery and he swells in the face.

    So you cant think of just the positive, there are thousands of negative effects when legalizing something and in todays society there are people that would love to take advantage of this and try to get around the system while its still young.

    I would like weed to be legal but only in certain places/states, not just freely. You have to have moderation in this sort of thing. I believe weed will someday be legal maybe when the country is doing bad, or when they've sorted out all the kinks.
     
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    I do agree with your thatguy1234 but then again they have done so many studies on weed already, so many clinicals etc, They still do studies on it etc everyday, Theyre allowed to to studies etc, that is not illegal
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    Agreed with you and I agree with you too, thatguy1234.

    You are correct, if it were to be legalized it would require hundreds of thousands of tests and studies to determine the other laws.

    Like I said before, it is likely they will change the genetics to make the drug either more addictive or heighten the effects. There excuse for this could easily just be "We ran tests and found this was the only way to make it safe for the community", at which they would not be questioned.

    And like I also said, I don't know whether I wan't it legalized or not. It would be interesting to see at least a debate about it, mostly just to laugh at the ridiculous statements placed by those who claim to be in charge while they continue to know next to nothing of the subject placed before them.
     
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    I think it should be legalized, its better for your lungs than tobbaco.
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    The government is not a person who controls people; none of yours reasons as to why its illegal make any sense.
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    Another reason why it hasn't been legalized is because not everyone reacts the same way to it; but then again that's also true about alcohol and here we are...
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    I agree that it should be legal although I have never smoked it. Though a couple things are off, a few deaths have been caused by marijuana some car crashes some other reasons, it happens its just rare. Also the U.S. owes over 10 Trillion Dollars to other countries.
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    If u smoke too many times; you die.
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    Marijuana is illegal because the paper industry wanted the hemp plant to be outlawed so it wouldn't hurt their profits when people found out it was a better alternative to trees. They made people afraid of Marijuana and portrayed it to be this evil drug that causes people to go insane (like in Reefer Madness). All that and some other stuff basically set in motion the laws we have today regarding pot.
     
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    Why is Marijuana Illegal?

    If your statement is towards me;
    The Government makes and passes the laws, therefore it is under their decision of the government that Marijauna is illegal.

    Now the people who actually enforce the laws made are the Police Force, and I do not wish any disrespect upon them.​

    If it's not;
    Nevermind.​

    Yes lol, and it is also true about many prescription drugs and food. Allergies ^_^

    I simply have to disagree with you on this one. It is not physically possible to overdose on Marijauna and die, unless you mean over long periods of time. If this is what you mean, I still have to disagree. Upon smoking Marijauna (and Cigarettes, too), you inhale a small amount of tar. Studies have shown that smoking Marijauna is 1.5x less carcinogenic (causes cancer) than smoking tobacco. This means Marijauna only has you intake 33% as much tar as tobacco, and generally you only smoke a half of a gram - 3 grams by yourself (I've never smoked more than half of a gram). A single cigarette contains about 1.5 grams of tobacco. As well as this, often time a quarter of a pack of cigarettes is smoked at once (20-25 a pack), so a smoker could take in up to 7 or 8 grams in one sitting. This is not supposed to be a competition between Weed and Cig's, just mentioning that it is likely you are comparing Weed to Tobacco cigarettes. All of this on top of the fact that tobacco is addictive and once hooked you need it regularly, meaning you are regularly hurting yourself.

    There is scientifically NOT enough carcinogens in Marijauna to give you the cancer. Only one cigarette can give you cancer, but the dosage of tar in a bowl or two of Marijauna is not enough at once to give you lung cancer. That being said, no medical records have ever recorded somebody having lung cancer in direct relation to Weed.

    Yes, while under the influence behaviors can be changed and a potential accident in a vehicle could happen, but the same could be said under many drugs sold in store with no prescription needed (Benadryl, Melatonin, anything that makes you tired or puts you "out of it" in a sense) as well as alcohol.

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