Thoughts on muslim woman that cover their entire body and face in Canada/Us.

I sense hostility in your post. Please take some time to read the posts under yours and then you can add to the discussion.

 

Don't tell me what to do kid. Your posting false information, you can't evidence what you say.

You say millions of women leave Islam...bullshit. Islam is the fastest growing religion for a reason.

 

http://www.geocities.com/athens/agora/4229/women.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...UK-White-women-keen-embrace-Muslim-faith.html

I blatantly answered your question by saying "yes." I also stated the reason why is his pride and the fact that he cares more what people think about him than his own daughter. It was the fact that she was a disgrace to him in his eyes. Religion does not degrade women.

Religion does not degrade women. I wonder why more and more western women are converting to Islam if it degrades women. If being modest is degrading, I don't know what the world has come to.

Lets analyze. Also your misquoting and misunderstanding dumbfounds me. You're trying to place these verses out of context. These are obviously pertaining to the battlefield. These verses don't seem violent except only to your enemy.

002.190 - Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.

002.191 - And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

002.192 - But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

002.193 - And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.

002.194 - The prohibited month for the prohibited month,- and so for all things prohibited,- there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves.

Sura number 8, Al-Anfal (Spoils of War)

008.012 - Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

Yet again talking to the battlefield. Surly if you are being attacked, you aren't going to just take it. Just as Allah commands in Chapter 8, verse number 15.

008.015 - O ye who believe! when ye meet the Unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them.

Lol.

I didn't sense hostility. You're the one providing false information, and putting everything out of context.

For further Quranic references try using http://www.cmje.org, a credible source.

 

It is only due to the amount of births in Muslim households.
also;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbz2ZC59_yw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL0gFIXnhiE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odTyzaKYYd8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7OYRknGgEc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64r-iWoTsX8&feature=related
there's a lot more.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm
The first link you posted doesn't seem to be very credible, and the second one is only in the UK, not worldwide. Take a look at the link I posted, it shows how women are viewed in Islam and how they are portrayed. It says somewhere in there, I forget which verse, that there are mostly women in hell, and they imply that they are sinners. Also, you can't justify the violent verses by posting peaceful ones, as the violent verses out number the peaceful ones.

 

The real reason why is because of how many people convert.

I didn't know YouTube videos of Muslim haters who chat shit is proof.

 

do some research, majority of numbers come from born muslims due to their family size.
You clearly haven't watched the videos.

 

Listen, first of all, I don't want to listen to racists. Your posted crap about Muslims, raking things out of context making it look like Islam isn't a peaceful religion. What im trying to point out is, look at how many people convert to Islam on a daily basis and why is that mate?

 

You have no argument. Religion and race are two completely different subjects, race was never mentioned in any post or video. The evidence is in the Qu'ran, I did not take anything out of context, it's in plain sight for everyone to see.

 

I never said they were racist because of what they were talking about in the videos did i?

You never answered my question..

 

No one has mentioned race, I don't know what you're on about.
I'm not really sure what you asked me, as your sentence barely made sense. If you're wondering why there's an increase in converts to Islam, it could be from many factors:
-Curiosity
-Rebellion against western way of life
-False view of the religion
-Comfort
please take a look at these, showing that majority of converts leave islam completely, mostly within the first 3 years.
http://somalifreethinkers.blogspot.com/2010/09/why-muslims-are-leaving-islam.html
Also, if your religion is so peaceful, why are the penalties for apostasy so harsh? (stoning, execution, etc.)

 

Billetes, Those are your opinions. Please speak with real facts before you come up and start making assumptions?

Your saying Islam is harsh, Execution? Please get a proven article that states that we execute people. Last time I checked it was Sadaam Hussein who got executed by the American goverment.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia#Leaving_Islam.2FApostasy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Saudi_Arabia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Iran
"In most interpretations of sharia, conversion by Muslims to other religions or becoming non-religious, is strictly forbidden and is termed apostasy. Non-Muslims, however, are allowed to convert into Islam. Muslim theology equates apostasy to treason, and in most interpretations of sharia, the penalty for apostasy is death. During the time of Muhammad, treason and apostasy were considered one and the same; nowadays, many scholars differentiate between treason and apostasy, believing that the punishment for apostasy is not death, while the punishment for treason is death."
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/012-apostasy.htm

http://quran.com/4/89
Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"
http://quran.com/9/11-12
Qur'an (9:11-12) -
*"But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief - Lo! they have no binding oaths - in order that they may desist." **
Please read the Qu'ran.

 

People should be able to do what makes them feel well. If something is part of culture why criticize. I mean you only see what your eyes want to see. there is a stimulus and a response. Most people associate Muslims with terrorists and that is a problem. People who believe a certain way cannot determine general ignorance until words are spoken.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_vXAC3Q94E

Watch kid.

 

It is not a cultural thing. It becomes a problem when they refuse to show their face in places such as airports, etc.

 

Tell that to me when they rip open your stomach and fuck your liver, or whatever else is prescribed by the 109 verses in the Quran commanding violence against infidels, converts, and anything else that moves and doesn't praise the Muslim Zeus.

 

This isn't a rare occurrence. Public beheadings occur frequently, and the Quran endorses far worse.

A significant portion of Britain now endorses Sharia Law's institution in government. Mohamed is now the most common name in England.

 

First of all, you posted YOUTUBE videoes, each of one person explaining why they reverted. I can show you just as many, if not more videos about women converting in the west. Even former Prime Minister Tony Blair's sister in law converted to Islam. Until you can show me some sort of real proof, please refrain from using this argument.

Nowhere in the Quran says there are mostly women in hell. Muhammad (PBUH) saw heaven and hell. In heaven, the majority was poor people. In hell, the majority were women. This isn't implying they are sinners, it's the fact that there were more women in hell.

I posted the verses right before and right after the one you did. Yes, in war you can fight. Destroy them if they attack you. It's a very simple concept. And especially, they were given to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) at the time. They were being attack senselessly, and they wouldn't fight back because at that point, it was haram. God commanded him to fight back if they attacked first.

Your ignorance is appalling.

In an Islamic state, apostasy is treason, correct? What is the punishment for treason in your country? At least the Quran gives them a chance to come back. Even the prophet pardoned apostasy. Check Hadith 4345.

Most of your understandings are out of context. Islam is not a religion of violence, and will never be a religion of violence.

 

I posted both videos and links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_Muslims there is a good list of historical figures who left Islam.

Muhammad was a prophet, was he not? The messenger of god? Regardless it teaches Muslims that women are inferior. In hindsight, it doesn't imply that women are sinners, but using logic and common sense, it clearly implies that women are sinners.

You only posted about two verses, one which was historically incorrect, so it challenges the Qu'ran's validity. You sir, are the ignorant one in this case.

Saudi Arabia is under SHARIA LAW, as well as Iran. If you honestly can't comprehend that, then it's really depressing. The Qu'ran states that all Muslims are to enforce Sharia law, and that it's the only law. I don't know whether you read the Qu'ran or you are just trolling me.

If it's not a religion of violence, why does it contain more violent texts than peaceful ones? Under Sharia law, the penalty for Apostasy is execution. Who's to say you're understanding it in the right context?

 

It doesn't matter how many individual cases of conversion you show; all that matters are the actual statistical figures.

Because, according to your religion, women are subservient to men.

That's why theocracies are so disgusting.