Perspectives on 9/11- Inside Job or Not? and George Bush

It is uncommon in the United States, a well established government. Maybe in a country like North Korea I can see this happening, where a crazy dictator is in power, but not here.

This guy, like all conspiracy theorists, are connecting the loosest points. This guy actually has connected the loosest points I have ever seen any conspiracy theorist do. He is saying because the government has done secret jobs before, an inside job is a possibility. The government has not done anything like this before. Yes, secret missions have been carried out before to better us in war, but not killing thousands of innocent U.S. citizens. This video does not help your point at all.

 

So you're saying it's okay to slaughter innocent civilians of other countries but once these people are American it somehow makes it a big deal?

 

Loose Change was debunked...

 

In the video you posted, the guy tries to say that it is not so crazy to think governments would kill it's own citizens for some kind of gain, correct? I was just stating that USA would not qualify as one of those countries. I used North Korea as an example because that country's politics are extremely corrupt and ill mannered. Yes, USA's government is corrupt, but not to the point they killed innocent citizens to set up a war.

I never said anywhere it was okay to slaughter innocent civilians. That is never okay. Whether it happened in USA or Iraq, it would be the same deal. If you didn't understand my post, fine, but please don't twist and play with my words.

 

Forcing young men into war IS killing it's own citizens for some sort of gain. You can spin it any way you want but that's what is really happening. It's what governments DO.

 

You just compared the military draft to flying planes into buildings killing people who are supposed to be in no danger. First of all, the military draft is not even in effect currently. Second, everyone registers for the draft, it's the law. If you don't like it, then leave the country. These are two totally different things. As an adult, you sign that sheet saying you willingly will join the army, and fight for this country, if asked to.

This is part of being a citizen, protecting your country when asked to. This has always been the case, since the beginning of towns, villages, countries, etc. This is not something that has come about in recent years, nor supports your argument that the government planned 9/11.

The people at the world trade centers never signed any piece of paper saying, "Yeah, it's okay if a plane obliterated these buildings while I am inside, and potentially kills me."

Get off this argument, you're not helping your case.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_n...y-kill-a-citizen-overseas-without-due-process

http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/406189924/ciaassassins

the vietnam war was a huge waste of life that was unnecessary, in the end.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings


need more examples of them killing their own citizens?


this is nothing new, dont be so naive

 

The draft is over. Vietnam is over. If you didn't like the draft, you could apply for conscientious objector status. The United States is not a police state.

 

Okay, I read most of the wikipedia article. Sounds like a lot of the events are unclear. But one thing is for certain, they had illegal guns, and illegal activities were taking place. This is why the raid took place. As for the women and children who died, it's tragic but the government did not plan for them to die. They were simply trying to escort everyone peacefully. They were not co-operating, so they used what they thought was necessary. The fact that innocent people died does not compare to the people who died on 9.11.

Okay, did you even read the second article? They said the people that were on the list were U.S. citizens who had evidence relating them to terrorist involvement in attacks against the U.S. I don't see what is so wrong with that. These are not innocent U.S. citizens, but terrorists.

First off, that's your opinion.

Second, yes, the Kent State shootings were very tragic. But it's not like the government told those guardsmen to walk out there that day and open fire. The students were taunting, throwing rocks, and throwing tear gas. Does that give the right for the guardsmen to fire? Absolutely not. But they felt threatened and did what they thought was best for their own safety.

I am not naive, you are just like all the other conspiracy theorists. You see one way and try to prove your point by using malinterpreted facts and stretched ideas/truths.

The examples you provided are not on the same level as 9/11. The difference is, nothing here was planned. Sure, maybe the raid was during the Waco Siege, but the plan was to get everyone out peacefully. Since it was not happening, they exercised what they thought was best due to received intel. The truth about how the fire was started is still being debated. But regardless if it erupted from the army, it was not intentional, and thus does not show examples government plots to kill 9/11.

Waco Seige - Careless Accident
Kent State - Misjudgment on the guardsmans part. Using excessive force. Not planned ahead of time.
Killing U.S. Citizens over seas - Terrorist Involvement against the U.S.

 

No, I don't think it was some big conspiracy, I think people just like to look for things like this.

Waco Texas incident was a bunch of brain washed people and I do believe they set their own building on fire.

 

It has been proven it was the shells from the tanks that caused the fire, so you can believe all you want but you are believing wrong.

 

Either way I don't really care, if that is true, it would not have happened if they didn't attempt to fight and resist. If it did not happen, then they set fire to their own place. Either way they had the ability to come out alive and chose not to.

 

This is the most outrageous thread I have ever read. This was not an inside job, are you crazy?

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

I agree with you bro!

 

Osama's father was killed on accident by an American Pilot in an airplane crash, he had a perfectly good motive to hate Western society.

 

Lol... sorry but, if you think that a perfectly good motive, stop breathing my air.

 

The 9/11 wasnt the only building targeted.. The pentagon was a target but the people aboard stopped that and risked their own lifes.
I do believe the 9/11 attack was a inside job. NO one can be trusted nowadays.

 

You, sir, are a complete dumbass. 9/11 isn't a damn building - it's the date of the attack. Feel free to actually support your argument instead of just making completely useless posts.

 

Fucking LOL.

Every Gov't has corruption, so does every society.

Do I believe this was an inside job? Yes.

Will it make a difference whether 9/11 being an inside job or not being an inside job change the 3k deaths that occurred that day? No.

The government is shady though...