RID Bans?

24/7 botting tells me nothing. Jagex's system doesn't catch people right off the bat from doing 24/7. It's repetitive and longterm which is what matters. I want an actual number of hours, not 'for weeks, etc.'

I ran Sorc garden on an account long enough to get 85+ farming @ a rate of 2.6k exp an hour. It still has 0 offenses on it. That's simply luck, not actually undetectability. There's a difference between getting flagged and manually investigated and passing detection systems compared to botting without getting flagged, etc. Jagex's detection system doesn't immediately catch and ban people, it takes time, man hours on Jagex's part, etc. Just because you botted and didn't get banned doesn't mean the bots are undetectable, it just means you haven't gotten caught yet, because the moment they do any sort as actual investigation on your account, they would have the evidence they needed to ban you. One of our super mods asked J Mods to investigate his account for problems with randoms, and he botted 20 hours a day during this time, and still has 0 offenses. I want you to tell me when you found a J Mod manually looking into an account running any Non-RiD bot for 20 hours a day who still managed to stay unbanned.

 

just get simba and shut the hell up

 

If you keep changing your ip and make new accounts, i think you get like 6 free points every time therefore free rid bots?

 

I honestly hate when RiD comes here and starts advertising their low ban rate and undetectability, any bot whether its Nexus, RiD, Powerbot, Rsbuddy, Simba or even you simply not paying attention has the same ban rate no bot is better than each other in ban rate its just simply luck, also riddiverse or whatever isn't worth your money your better off finding a ghost mouse and setting it up sure you will hit the 6 hour timer but 6 hours of botting is basically the recommended amount for RiD most people stand on sw bank anyways with 500 people you aren't going to get caught whether you use shit or the best bot ever. Mainly your paying for features and for the price of RiD I'm surprised it still controls your mouse, if you enjoy using your laptop/ desktop for other things rather than botting or want to make money off botting I recommend you find something else but if you just want to casually bot and don't care about cost then give it a shot. Their bots aren't bad they do have problems but like somebody said if you want to avoid randoms just bot at sw but I'm pretty sure simba scripts would suffice at sw even a ghost mouse, even an auto clicker would suffice at sw lol... give their free trial a shot not sure if its still offered if you like it use it personally I don't play rs anymore so I don't know about the frequent rs news but just giving you my advice.

 

They are the safest because they actually take control of your mouse, there is no way Jagex can tell if thats a bot or you unless you bug and do the same thing over and over again.

 

Well first of all, anyone who has even the slightest education in the detection system, and even basic knowledge of psychology and even common sense would know that it's not true. Literally no other bot publicly available can claim 0 bans following Guidelines, not a single one. I know people who are very very close with Jagex's ICU and it's very obvious for them when anyone is using any detectable software, yet they never even mention RiD, even though they make graphical updates that are blatantly obviously aimed to slow down RiD.

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You make me facepalm so much. Ghost mouse = does exactly the same thing every time, and if you are reported, it's an obvious ban. Also, as anyone with even a speck of knowledge of the detection system wouls know, the RS game shifts over time, so your ghost mouse would break within a few minutes. RiDiverse can be used to train 6-7 skills, and you can essentially create your own bot with it. Soul wars doesn't have 500 people anymore, you go to any other Non-SW world, and there are only a handful of people. If RiDiverse wasn't anything special, then why, despite most users who use RiDiverse running it for 15-24 hours a day, we've never seen a single ban from it, even Guideline breakers? Also, you show blatant ignorance, seeing as you've never even read the Guidelines, which very clearly say 8 hours a day recommended, even though only 0.00001% of Guideline breakers get banned.

Again, you show blatant ignorance, seeing as it you'd actually done your research, you would know that we have a guide in the Knowledgebase section for how to minimize the bot using a free VM. I ALWAYS minimize my bot when using RiD, and so do the majority of RiD users.

The thing with RiDiverse is that you can design it yourself, without needing any programming knowledge, and you can train 6-7 skills with it, and create your own private methods or methods. The undetectability goes further as the user can make his/her method unique to themselves, as not everyone does it the same way.

 

All your guidelines are is combine bot + play hours to no more than 8 hours, never leave a trail to your rs account, don't tell people you bot online, don't bot on an ip with offenced accounts, if you get a ban tell us first

I'm sorry but isn't it easy then to hide it from the public? and the only people who get banned using RiD are known only by you so if you knew 100 people got banned you could potentially say only 1 did...

The reason RiD isn't well known is because all you guys do is go on other forums and begin advertising your bot with bullshit statistics, you try convincing people the price is fair, when really you know it isn't and almost all of this site does as well because you guys just flame anybody who goes against RiD. Hardly anybody has any respect for RiD, I honestly never seen PB, Rsbuddy, or nexus ever advertise their bots on other websites, there's a lot of staff from rsbuddy registered on sythe even staff from rsbots.net and they have never came here saying our bots are amazing come check us out, all you guys do is try to prove your bot is better because you fooled a bunch of dumb j mods back like 6 years ago because your bot could talk. There's simple programs which can mimic what your bot is

I believe RiDiverse only handles simple tasks such as herblore which would be take item out, create new item, deposit new item, withdraw again.

A ghost mouse does the same function if you know how to set one up, all it does is mimic your mouse movements which essentially is all ridiverse is doing isn't it? I don't see it running around killing monsters, running to bank, withdrawing items, then going back all its for is staying in one spot infront of a bank booth. I've used a ghost mouse to do: Herblore, Superheating, Crafting, and magic probably could have used it for more, and it never broke for me? it does the same function where it controls your mouse so how exactly would one get banned since it is just withdrawing, creating, depositing, and repeating. Also most users don't know how to set up a ghost mouse or don't know where to find a legitimate one, also apparently your Ridiverse superheating is broken? but I could probably start up my ghost mouse and it would work. Also please making up bullshit statistics because they aren't right you claim 37 people have been banned using RiD on another thread, 3.7 million users on RiD don't claim only 0.00001% because it is false. All of your statistics you post are bullshit and you know it.

RiDiverse isn't worth the money and you know it, its a simple program which is just mimicing preset movements which with simple knowledge you could make your own RiDiverse although not as quick but you still save money.

Also if you guys weren't RiD fanboys and continuously advertising RiD I would have believed your made up statistics but for the past year I've been here all I've seen is you guys flame other bot makers and promote your own. Fix your pricing and you will get more customers, all majority of the people do is look at if they want to bot for 1000 hours (2 months) = about 4 stats to 99 it will cost $15 for p2p + $80 = $95 for 2 months of game play, this would only apply to buyable stats as you can zoom through them quicker your pest control bot would cost a fortune to get 99 combat skills. Fix your pricing and your customers will follow there are a lot better games to play without have to spend $42/ month just to train skills up.

 

The pricing seems fair to me and I use it simply because it seems the safest option available at the moment for botting an account that I care about. I would buy human skilling services but RiD is cheaper. What is $0.70 (10 hours) a day to me? Nothing.

 

Thank you Punjabi, I am glad I am not the only one that see it. I have been saying exactly what he just said since 3 days after the bot nuke when all of the RiD mods started advertising RiD as the 'Only bot left'. I mean it would be fine if the RiD people didn't come and flame everyone who calls them out on what they're doing, but the truth is that your members flame people when they disagree.

 

Haters gonna hate. No stopping that. It's pretty fair pricing in my eyes because of three things. One, your own bot is different than any other RID user. Two, it has a built in AI talker and yes we did talk to Jmods in the MTA years back. I was there. And finally three, it is priced reasonably. Especially now when there isn't that many options available, the bots that RID offer will get the job done for a reasonable price and the community at RID is there to help if something goes wrong.

So for those that think it's too expensive go find another bot and those that want to use (In my opinion: the Rolls Royce of RS Botting) use RID.

Now, I'm not a mod on their site I just happen to be a long time user and supporter of RID himself.

Let the hate train roll.

 

RiD has told us every time there was a ban, and if you follow my posts back to when I started, you would see the changes in the numbers over time. RiD has a list of who got banned with what bot all the way back since 2008, any time someone asks any staff how many bans there have been, we give them the honest number, which atm is 37. If we were going to lie we wouldn't say a number like that, nor would the number ever change over time. We've had 600,000 hours botted since 2008, so that's about 1 ban every 16,216.2162 hours botted by the community. RiD has all user's botted time recorded from back in 2007, and a simple script could add up all the hours every user has used to give an exact number. He is even thinking of implementing a banner on the site that displays number of bans and hours botted.

RiD doesn't allow mass botting or goldfarming, and only has 2 free bots, THAT'S why we aren't well known. We don't like leechers, as they just suck up server resources. RiD pays hundreds of dollars a month to host servers to allow users to bot with black-box security so that Jagex can't examine the code to put detection systems in. It's not like RiD is making a ton of money off the site, pre-bot nuke, he barely made anything off of it. He does it as a hobby, not to get rich.

We never have blatantly advertise like you say. Notice how every time someone mentions RiD, it's because they are either asking about it, or when someone talks blatant shit about RiD when 99% of the time, they've never even logged into the bot. That, is blatant ignorance. I've botted 5,000 hours, 1,800 of which were RiD. I have the knowledge to speech freely about different botting sites and what is detectable or not. You seem to not understand a lot of the basics of the detection systems within RS. Jagex isn't stupid. Obviously it's possible for them to engineer a basic script that can determine the exact mouse movement algorithms that any publicly available bot, except RiD, is using, and they can easily use that as evidence of botting and ban you. Without human mouse movements, a bot can never be undetectable, period.

Again, you seem to lack very basic knowledge of the detection system, read my previous paragraph above this.

In reference to your statistic comments, let me correct my previous number, and replace it with an actual one. 0.0004625% of our users have had a ban. Nonetheless, the number is lower than any other publicly available bot.

Using RiDiverse, paying ~8.6 cents an hour you can make 500-1500k an hour pretty regularly, meaning you make about 56 cents an hour, averaging around d 1mil an hour gp profit. I've gotten 99 crafting, cooking, magic, and fletching with it, and 85+ herblore. It perfectly replicates human mouse movements, human behavior, and includes every possible anti-ban that replicates human behavior. Ghost mouse is a fail of an example, as any unpaid intern at Jagex could easily tell you are botting with even a minute to peek at the evidence. You know surprisingly little about the detection systems.

Considering I've used 3200 hours on bots besides RiD, I think it's fair to say that I know what I'm talking about in terms of detectability and how Jagex can catch botters. The only made up statistic was the 0.0001 or whatever percent, and I went ahead and calculated an real statistic. Every other statistic is as solid as it gets.

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No one bots 1k hours in 2 months. The time is only used when the bot is logged into Runescape and going about its task. From looking at hundreds of users' botting records, the average user uses 1k or less hours per year. This means you would pay an average of 0.17808219 cents per day, (averaging in days you don't bot, because no one bots every single day). Buying at 1K hours at a time, you are only paying ~6.5 cents per hour, making it even cheaper.

However, RiD does have some ideas in his head for how to make it more affordable to bot. 99 att, def, range, strength, and HP would cost under 100$, which is far cheaper than any legit service, and the account would be worth far more than that at that point, so you are still profiting overall.

First of all, We've had this argument many times, and it was all proven that any time we talked about RiD, it was because someone else either asked about it, or talked blatant, ignorant fallacy.

We have never flamed anyone for talking ignorantly or just plain wrong about RiD, we have only ever corrected them, or pointed out how much ignorance or fallacy was involved in their post.

Notice how I've never said anything bad against Simba or SCAR? Their detectability depends on the scripter's ability, which has a wide range of performance. You really should stop being so butthurt and face the fact that our bots have the lowest ban rate out of any bot. No other bot has multiple people with over 5-8 thousand hours clocked without offenses.

 

So assume Rsbuddy has around 21k active members multiplied by the average 3.5k hours people used it for botting= 7.35mil hours. which is 12x your hours of botted and this is a rough estimate I'm probably far under the real hours botted which could probably be in the 15-20mils as many people used multiple auths to bot multiple accounts. Which means if your hours of botted were 12x higher you would have 444 bans which sounds about right using a paid bot from RsBuddy and following guidelines. Your 600,000 hours botted is equivalent to 171 people botting 3.5k hours/ year. This would be only 1 year you guys have been around 3 years, which means 57 people using it over 3 years >.> doesn't seem like a big number does it when its broken down now? If you want me to pull up a few posts where you have flamed other people for using other bots I will gladly do it, I have no problems searching through your posts as many people on here know that.

I'm just saying if he does it as a hobby he wouldn't need you guys coming here to promote your bot, gloating never earns respect especially when you have a product which is incomparable if it truly is worth the money people will come on their own, nobody ever from Rsbots.net use to promote autoalcher pro over any rsbuddy alcher, but you guys when some1 asked about autoalcher pro you flamed their bot and said to use yours.

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Yet iDung was undetectable as was several other paid bots from rsbuddy and rsbots.net all of jagex's bans are based off player reports.

Please take RiDiverse out of the conversation it is an overpriced ghost mouse. I also know jagex doesn't spend countless days to find a user botting they rely on their player reports for detecting botting.

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Just because somebody uses different bots doesn't mean they know about the detectability, if you weren't

I actually use to bot around 1k hours every 2 months that's approximately 42 days/ 60 days botting which is what majority of people do because of updates. Unless people bot 2.5 hours a day your statistics are wrong yet again. Even with your 8 hour/ day botting strategy its still 125 days, and you have said many people have used it past the guidelines so you are lieing yet again.

I can guarantee if you made a combat bot apart from pestcontol you would see a rise in bans.

 

Hahahhahahahahahahaha. The average person at RSBuddy doesn't run for 3.5k hours a year. I ran up to 12 of their bots at a time, and only clocked around 1-1750 hours since February. I've talked to Blackbone before and he has said that the high majority of users there only use free bots. I used to venture the RSBuddy forums quite a lot when I was using some of their bots, and I saw ban reports every single day, on multiple scripts. 600,000 hours botted over 3 years = 200,000 hours botted a year with RiD. With an average of ~12 bans a year, that's 16,000 hours botted as a community for every ban, and that is out of the Guideline breakers, we've still never had a single ban from users following Guidelines. If you go to RiD's forums you will see that almost all of the users who post around are Guideline breakers or suicide botters, since we have icons built into the forums that show this. I myself have been banned over 10 times with RSBuddy during my stay there. I would often see many people at RiD complaining about getting banned on accounts they only used RSBuddy on. I actually know someone personally who got banned from using iDungeon while 110+ dung. There have also been hundreds of f2p bans with iDungeon.

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We don't come here to promote the bots. As you so ignorantly ignore every time I've said it, any time I've mentioned RiD was because someone either posted a thread directly asking about it, or someone talks blatant fallacical bullshit about it. I've never gone and said, 'ZOMG ERRYONE USE ARE EYE DEE RAIGHT NAO!!!"
Notice how when no one else talks about it first, neither I nor Edward say anything about it. Any time you see a thread where someone asks a question about which bot they should use, anyone mentioning ANY bot, is doing exactly the same thing I am. They are answering a question and informing the asker of the question about why they have given the answer they gave.

Ohhhh myyyyy godddd, you continue to show blatant ignorance and lack of education in the way the detection system works. iDung didn't receive very many bans because there simply was no detection system within daemonheim, because the bot did tasks so complex and random that it would be impractical to set up detection systems in every single dungeon that people are doing by themselves. It's just not practical.

There's a difference, as I've already stated, between a place with no detection system, and being actually undetectable. Anything that isn't human = detectable, and there has never been any RSBuddy or RSBots bots ever publicly available that succeeds in replicating humans. Without human mouse movements, it is impossible to be undetectable. You say the only bans were from player reports. Well hurr-durr, a lot of Jagex's detection system IS based on player reports, since they don't have the resources to run bot detection systems on all 60-90,000 players logged in at any given time. It's just common sense. The thing with player reports, is that even if you get reported while using RiD, there is nothing to worry about. I've been reported over 30 times that I've witnessed during my 1800 hours or botting with RiD, even by player mods, and I still don't have a single macro offense. We even have a user on RiD who personally requested J mods to monitor his account for a large influx of random events, and he botted 20 hours a day for weeks, during which time J Mods were physically looking at his account's history and play-time charts, etc, and he still has 0 offenses. There's not any other bot out there that can do that.

This paragraph is so stupid that I'm not even going to waste my time writing a rebuttal.

I've used 3200 hours or bots besides RiD. I also am close with people who are extremely close with Jagex ICU. Darksoul has been botting games and fighting detection systems since the 90's, since before Runescape even existed, when most of the bot developers we see now weren't even alive yet. He's has his BaS in computer technologies and networking. He knows what kind of capabilities software and hardware has in today's gaming environment, and knows what is possible for Jagex to do in an attempt to detect bots. I want you to find me a user who has used over 5,750 hours on a single account and not received a single offense. Better yet, find us a user who has botted over. 8,750 hours on a single account who has 0 offenses. The fact of the matter is, you can't find people like that anywhere but RiD. You'll notice that Jacmob and Blackbone's accounts are pretty shitty compared to many of our veterans on RiD, when they 'claim' to have botted tens of thousands of hours, when they barely have any 99's. Most of them are only halfway or less to 99. And trust me, there is a big big difference between getting 2200 total level with 4 or 5 99's, and having many accounts above 2300 or 2400 total level, being completely maxed out with 99 in every RiD skill.

Again, those bots don't exist anymore. No one bots every single day, 24 hours a day. You can't do that anymore since cliented bots are gone. The majority of people don't run multiple accounts 24/7. When I say the average person uses 1k hours per year, I mean the average user uses 1k hours on a single account in a year. We have users who bot 4 accounts at a time with RiD, so obviously it would take a quarter of the time.

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It looks like you can't even do simple math either. Not everyone bots every single day for 24 hours every day. Taking the average of 1000 hours in a year of botting one account, you have to average in days you didn't bot in order for the statistic to be accurate. Some days I bot 20 hours, others I bot 5 or so hours, it really depends on what I'm botting, and how busy I am, and the same applies for most people. Not everyone does the same exact schedule every single day.

And again, I'm really quite surprised that you can't even manage to figure out these basic equations. Not everyone bots every single day herpaderp. Swedish Viking has clocked over 20 hours a day multiple times in the past week, but he also has days where he only bots at guideline level or below. Because botting time is irregular, it actually comes out to around 1000 or so hours in approximately a year. Go on RiD and ask any baby blue user (veteran), and they will tell you it took either close to a year, or over a year to accomplish that.

We've witnessed J mods patrolling PC, and our bots responded with their autotalkers, and we've only seen 2-4 or so bans from Pest Control since it's release. You seem to think that an influx in player reports would increase bans? Well then why is it that for longer than a year of the powerminer being abused by leechers, breaking Guidelines, did we only see 1 roll back in that year? Any other mining bot has hundreds of bans under its belt, and RiD actually beats these bots on a regular basis before the bot nuke.

 

I'm a mod on RiD and I never flamed anyone here, nor spread bullshit. In fact I always encourage people to check out the other only popular alternative Simba and decide for themselves which they like best. As for the RSbuddy staff you obviously have no idea because as I remember days after the bot nuke Jacmob and other mods were openly flaming RiD when we did nothing to them at all. As well as flaming our forums.

So take it however you want, I am here just to answer questions about bots in general and be a part of the community. If you see me as a forceful member then maybe you need to adjust your perspective. *shrug

 

RID is a great bot nonetheless, the creator and the community moderators puts a lot of efforts into their bot.

Botting is against the rules in the first place, so if you decided to flame why are are you even in this section?

If do want to talk about bots, RID would be a very good choice considering the dedication behind it and almost pay as you go mentality.

 

Yes but before investing money into RiD I highly encourage people to check out Simba since it is free.

 

If a whopping 6-8 cents per hour is too steep for someone, go ahead and use Simba which is far more complicated to maintain, unstable and hardly employs any anti-ban methods or random solving. Not denying it's still the 2nd best option around or the best one if you absolutely can not spend a single cent in return for a reliable and safe service.

I honestly don't understand the flame targeted at the RiD mods here who are just being informative and responding to questions about RiD. That's not advertising. They are not spreading any lies, just conclusions based on usage stats gathered by RiD. Anyone failing to see that and opting to go for ignorant flaming instead should get their brain checked for certain syndromes.

 

simba is completely community driven, there are amazing scripts there and there is are completely new scripts, but those who attempts to learn will one day rid of needs to buy bots.

RID is an alternative cheap botting solution, with all of their being high quality and maintained frequently.

 

I only botted for gold but if you are in theire for skills Rid is pretty good. The price aint that high if you only want some skills.

 

Well said ^_^