Will Islam Overgrow Against Christianity In 2015?

Firstly it's the Qur'an not Koran.

Secondly, you claim our god is fiction? Yet you believe in Jesus Christ, let me add who is a Messenger of our god.

Thirdly, you claim our religion is homophobic and does not change. Prophet Mohamed was the last and final prophet. The prophets passed on the knowledge/ information that Allah sent to the muslims and that is what becomes the Qur'an.

If there is no messengers of Allah, there is no information left to give and as muslims we all know prophet Mohamed is the last prophet. So there is nothing else which will be added to the Qur'an or even modified.



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I don't understand how you can argue against the muslim religion and the Qur'an. The things stated in the Qur'an are enough otherwise there would have been more prophets and Mohamed wouldn't of been the final messenger of god. Our god was confident that changes are not neccessary in the life-time that we will live in.

Unlike the bible which is changed. The bible is becoming treated as book as time passes, not something sacred or special, but a different edition of a book each time it changes.

 

Brainwashed Muslims, lol. To you muslims muhamad is a prophet but everyone else he is just a pedophile nutjob.

 

How do you know 500 million won't convert ? Are you God ? Must be joking.

And aegir12, you don't even think before you speak. Idiotic newcomers.

 

lol brb. I'll rip your post up later.

Koran=Qur'an=Quran. Different translations, they are all correct spellings.

Islam would need to grow by ~700 million people in four years to become more populous than christianity. That is an unprecedented rate, islam grows at about 1.8% a year (lets just say ~8% over 4 years). 700 million in 4 years would be a ~40% increase. I'm not god, but I took algebra.

You don't know anything, and you shouldn't post in this thread.

 

I'll take this Snatch.

There are several translations of the name, so it doesn't matter what name you use for it.

We didn't claim to believe in any God, in fact I actually stated that I claim no religious ties and if you couldn't tell by the tone of Jimmy's post it is obvious that he is anti-religion.

Your point is? You just proved that your religion does not change. The Qur'an has been modified - how do you think that it can be translated into any language other than the original language.

The Qur'an is a holy book and as such it isn't a factual source of reference, and you are still rambling on pointlessly.

You apparently have no concept of this entire argument. We weren't arguing against the Koran, I began by arguing that it isn't a factual source of information or a primary source document that can be referenced as complete truth. The OP began by saying that the Qur'an said that Islam will be the worlds largest religion and I replied that you cannot base assumptions on a holy book. Then the entire thread went into off-topic hell as a couple of posters began trying to refute the point that I made, which in the end was unsuccessful. Unless you are going to prove to me that you can use the Coran as a completely, 100% factual reference document for historical and future events?

 

Cant expect a muslim to have a rational answer. Their answer to everything is "my holy book says so, so it must be right". They are so brainwashed from their youths they lose their ability to think rationally and not see the stupidity that is their religion.

 

I am trying to make a logical argument, and you are just detracting from the intelligence of the debate and being offensive at the same time.

 

Lol @ aegir15... dude just leave if your hear to create more problems...

 

Snatch - Really I don't know anything ? Do you even know about Islam ? I bet you don't !
And Nero regarding the Corruption in Quran / Bible ? Here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVZ7MLQorwA

And here is the long one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-DTvgCZZ3w

 

You can use a religious figure to answer a question about it, you need to find a third party source that is non-biased on the topic. Like I said, it's like trying to define a word with itself; just because the Koran says it uncorrupted doesn't mean it isn't. There will be changes of the words and meaning any time you translate a piece from it original langue to the vernacular - that is just a fact of translation.


Snatch is going on hard data (IE Census statistics) which means he doesn't have to have any idea about Islam.

 

I know an ample amount about the koran. You seem to not understand statistics, or birth rates. Just because I don't interpret the koran literally, doesn't mean i'm ill-informed about Islam.

Why are you posting youtube videos? Do they contain figures related to muslim population growth?

The christian population resides mostly in europe/western hemisphere. The quality of life is much higher in those countries than Islamic countries. They have more access to birth control, and women have fewer births. The growth of islam shouldn't be attributed to divine intervention, rather, a lack of medical and cultural modernization.

You also shouldn't base the legitimacy of a religion on the quantity of it's practitioners (that being said, is any religion legitimate?).

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Ignorance isn't unique or exclusive to any religion.

 

Snatch, it is also not unique or exclusive to religion. You should remember that.

 

I do not think that Islam overgrow Christianity any time soon. From my experience, atleast in Canada, traditional Muslim families in the middle class are becoming more "westernised" and being more lenient when it comes to passing down religion on their children. Of course you will have the odd extremists, the converts, and those who pass down their traditions but as a whole, and as time goes by, I don't think they will overgrow Christianity or even "take over the world" as many claim. Not to mention the mass amounts of athiests that are out there now, and they're growing in numbers rapidly.

 

And this is why these christians cant understand muslims cuz they are pedophile nutjob like that fella said

 

yes moslims are like rats they can't be killed and they always want to go further (yes racist here but it is true they always have so many kids...)

 

This thread is full of crap really, It's completely off topic.

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There is no reason to believe Islam will outgrow Christianity by 2015, go look at statistics. You don't need to have a completely off topic debate to look at numbers and growth %'s, and then apply them.

This is coming from an Atheist so don't even bother saying I have a biased opinion.

 

You just the parishioners of a certain religion "rats". Thats racist

Its possible to understand a religion without practicing it.

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It would be statistically impossible for the muslim population to grow larger than christianity.

 

I don't think so. According to the ratio I wouldn't believe it + We gotta count the amount of wars that's coming in the future that will hit the muslim population.

 

It's called probability. Sure, there is a chance, but it is far more likely that it does not surpass Christianity.

I'm not sure whether or not he thought before he spoke, but from the looks of it what he says is proving to be correct (although I agree - such ignorance is not strictly Islamic). I think you should think - not just before you speak, but in general. Honestly, the only argument you've presented is "oh the Qu'ran says it" or "oh the Qu'ran is unchanging". You haven't addressed any of the arguments presented.

 

Based on current growth, there is no way feasible for Islam to surpass Christianity as the largest religion. It would take hundreds of years on a global scale to grow larger actually.