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    hey I am just starting to learn the programming languages and was wondering where to start out at? I have never actaully studied any of the languages but I do know bits and pieces since my mom worked at microsoft b4
     
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    Well, it all depends. Do you want to build websites or make computer programs?
     
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    Or you can do like I did and go HTML, CSS, PHP, Javascript, Java then C#..

    I dont recommend it tho... Was annoying as hell changing over from a Non-OO Language to a OO Language >_<
     
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    HTML, CSS, PHP and Javascript don't compile so they are scripting languages, not programming languages.
     
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    Then why the hell are you posting? >_<

    But personally, I found moving to OOP a welcome relief from my previous programming experiences.
     
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    html and css isn't scripting languages.. html is a markup language and css, I don't know what it should be called but w/e..
    anyway, I would suggest C#, powerful, pretty easy and attractive on the business market...
     
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    They are compiled at run time I think. Like Lua, which is compiled at run time.... A scripting language is basically a programming language... Just some like PHP have a lot more credibility than others...

    If you want to make applications, go with one of the .net languages.....
     
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    As Hampe said HTML is a markup language and it's debatable how CSS should be classified although most would say it's in the same category.

    PHP and Javascript are both scripting languages as you said but not because of the fact that they doesn't compile. USUALLY scripting languages are interpreted but that is not always the case (nor does it mean all interpreted languages are scripting languages). Scripting languages enhance and interact with the functionality of other programs/software/applications/environments as Javascript and PHP do with websites, web applications, widgets, etc.

    None of HTML/CSS/PHP/Javascript are compiled (interpreted, yes) although I do recall reading about Javascript/PHP compilers being developed they aren't the original intended use and certainly aren't used very much right now. I'm pretty sure Lua is also interpreted although I don't know much about the language I just read an article on it a while back.
     
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    I am pretty sure that Chrome compiles JavaScript before it is run... Either way scripting languages are basically programming, depending on how complex they are.

    I write some simple stuff in Lua on garrysmod and I am pretty sure it is compiled before it is run....

    Anyways.... Arguing about scripting languages never goes anywhere... So I'l stfu. D:
     
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    If you want to start Javascripts download an IDE first.

    But if you really want basic Programming...

    Try learning HTML and CSS.
     
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    Neither of which are really programming. S/he should really be learning something s/he can benefit from later if s/he wants to continue learning programming. ;)
     
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    You don't need an IDE for JavaScript...... >____________>.....


    HTML and CSS is a good place to start to get into the coding world.... Everyone needs to know them at least basically.
     
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    HTML is a markup language and CSS is stylesheets.

    And I don't recommend learning HTML at all. If you're going for design, at least begin with XHTML (EXtensible HyperText Markup Language). XHTML takes the best out of HTML and uses the strictness of XML. All styling is done via CSS.
     
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    I'd suggest start out with Java or C#. They are both relatively easy to learn and teach good programming habits.

    I would defiantly suggest not starting with C++ or Visual Basic. C++ is often hard for beginners to learn as a first language. Visual Basic is crap and is going to hell, end of story.

    I doubt that he was looking to learn web programming.:p

    Anyway, good luck on your programming journey!
     
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    Pfff. Fine. Go learn (X)Html. >_____________>....
     
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    it's still html tho.. just a newer version...
     
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    [​IMG]

    See the part of the chart that says "Time spent trying to get the layout to work using only CSS before giving up and using tables"? Yea, I don't like spending that much time on it.o_O
     
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    CSS design is easy... I've found that 90% of the time spent is trying to get the goddam code to work in IE.

    And also, tables suck. Use divisions please.
     
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    I heard the new IE is x/HTML and CSS compliant now. D:

    I use tables because I tend to not have time to keep trying to make a code entirely suitable for all browsers. Tables work fine for me, so I think I will stick with them.
     
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