we did the salvia wrong in the sense that we just talked and laughed the whole time. to get a nice trip you need to be quiet and it needs to be dim. I felt like Woody from Toy Story and I have no idea why. I didn't quite have an out of body experience, but I didn't take very much and I was too afraid of having a bad trip which i realized is virtually impossible... DMT seems complicated, don't you need a needle for it? You just smoke salvia in a bowl, it's so easy.